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    another carb to efi question

    right now i'm in the proccess of getting all my parts for a efi swap. first is the how 2 thread the easiest way todo the swap. is it better to change out the gas tank or can i just keep my carbed tank. last, is the price worth changing to efi or just get another engine to put in. if i get it done i want to install a turbo and think it might just be better to fix what i have than to go with something else. any thoughts on this.???



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    1. you have to change the gas tank no matter what.
    2. the swap is worth the money. when i bought EFI accord, i couldn't believe how much power it made.
    3. you can keep your carbed engine, just swap the intake manifold.
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    in your opinion is it just better to buy a car so you can swap the parts? also can o switch the valve cover from an a20a3 to an A1 or is there a slight differece between the 2. ??

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    i think it is better just to buy EFi car. i think the hole swap is pain in the ass.
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    well i really have no chioce cuz i have tomuch money wrapped in the car as it is. i'mjust tring to find the best way to go thru with what i'mgonna do cuz i want to have my car turboed before the year is out.

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    buying an efi car would be a much quicker route. if money is an issue, see if you can find someone with an efi that's not running that they'll sell for cheap. blown head gasket or broken timing belt or something. you should be rebuilding the engine anyway if you're going to try and go turbo. crazy mofo.
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    my A20 is not SLOW. ur A20 is slow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by military mase
    well i really have no chioce cuz i have tomuch money wrapped in the car as it is. i'mjust tring to find the best way to go thru with what i'mgonna do cuz i want to have my car turboed before the year is out.
    By the end of the year? Haha. You're out of your mind.
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    military mase, any new pictures of your nice car?
    But just put on the EFI tank. It will be just as easy. You just need to run a fuel feed line and then you can use the existing fuel feed line as the return line for the EFI tank.


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    turbo on a a20, yeah it's crazy but how many people in your town have done it. most likely none. i have one of the nicest 3geez around where i stay at and there are some peps here that can say the same for there car where they live at. i recently went to my 3rd car showin the accord all cat. and havecame away with 1st place in all 3. yeah it has the cosmetics but i need the balls to haul to back it up. as for new pics my car club is going to a big show next week called freak show, i'll take some pics and post them next week.

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    cant the A20A1 be turbo'ed?

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    I'm not saying a turbo A20 is crazy. It's been done. I'm saying having it done by the end of the year is crazy. It's not gonna happen.
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    well.it should be cloose to almost done at least . this guy is going to give me a good deal on a car i can do swaps with. is it imparitive that i get a car the same year or will a 88 yr model work?? if so he's going to sell it to me for 300 and it still runs, just has some tranny problems.

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    yea it'll work.

    the reason they say to change the tank because you gauge will be off.
    i was gonna be in the process of converting to efi.
    i had a lx-i but sold it cause i had a lx, but once i drove the lx more and more, i missed my lx-i more and more.

    more than likely this guy's tranny probably has a un adjusted t/v cable . . . .
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    its not the gauge that will be off, if you run a carb tank with the efi pump, u will get fuel cuts in the last 1/4th of the tank. Had it, experienced it and it just feels like u hit a wall. not cool. If you want a high pressure fuel line, i got one for sale in the marketplace section. Getting the turbo should be done next year if you ask me. Concentrate on getting the car converted to efi before this year. Its a days job with all the parts in hand. I actually did it in about 11 hours you could say. its not hard, it just required that you rip the car inside out. You can still use the A1 motor, but if u wanna go the extra step, get the dist bracket from the efi and the cam (88-89) from the efi also and install it on the A1 motor.

    IF you go to my website u will see all the parts needed and also the tools needed to help you out with the completion. I think the How-to here was done by Carotman, i followed his when i did mine last year, but i also ran across some problems that i included in my how-to. Also, get yourself a shopmanual if you are kinda new to this car (im guessing u are not). so yeah, with all the parts handy, u can get it done soon.


    PS. I would say get a 88-89 efi car with a blown motor or wrecked as your parts car, its much cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smufguy
    its not the gauge that will be off, if you run a carb tank with the efi pump, u will get fuel cuts in the last 1/4th of the tank. Had it, experienced it and it just feels like u hit a wall. not cool.
    Yeah I had that problem with my old Accord too. When braking it would stall if the fuel tank was down at that level. Very very anoying.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatdane
    Yeah I had that problem with my old Accord too. When braking it would stall if the fuel tank was down at that level. Very very anoying.
    hehehe, it happened to me exiting turns, since the fuel sloshes away from the pickup, It just makes the car like stay there and not move and then picks up. Forget about passing someone. It was like taming a stupid bitch with its own mind. now its all good.

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    The tank swap is a pain in the ass on it's own. All those little hoses and the damn clamps that hold them. I hated it.
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    yeah i read the how to for the swap just wanted to get any other ways it was done. yeah , i just looked at my calender and noticed that doing the turbo setup is going to take a little bit of work and is not gonna be finnished but i guess it was good wish it would be done though. if there's any more tips that were some hard spots to look out for when putting it in give me a heads up. thx

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    in your opinion is it just better to buy a car so you can swap the parts? also can o switch the valve cover from an a20a3 to an A1 or is there a slight differece between the 2. ??
    i tried that once... nope they dont match up. It sucks cause i like my a20a3 valve cover more than my a1 vc. This efi swap is a big job, not a hard one...just big. I'm in the process of doing it too. I hope that i can do it in one weekend.

    Smurfman your website how to on the efi conversion has some red X's can those be fixed soon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immeraufdemhund
    i tried that once... nope they dont match up. It sucks cause i like my a20a3 valve cover more than my a1 vc. This efi swap is a big job, not a hard one...just big. I'm in the process of doing it too. I hope that i can do it in one weekend.

    Smurfman your website how to on the efi conversion has some red X's can those be fixed soon?
    lol u called me smurfman. hahah. anyway, sorry the website is underconstruction and so i took down all the files. But now since u asked for it. i put them back up. So u should be fine. http://89accord.netfirms.com/eficonversion.htm

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    hehehe, oops sorry. yah i visted the site yesterday. No more red x's. do you have a hose diagram for the fuel tank?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immeraufdemhund
    hehehe, oops sorry. yah i visted the site yesterday. No more red x's. do you have a hose diagram for the fuel tank?
    well not on the site, but here is a thumbnail The vaccuum lines for the carb and efi are the same, but the only difference is the fuel feedline and return line is different. here is the pic anyway. Click on the image to enlarge



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    well i've gotten my parts car broken down almost all the way and wanted to know can i use the same hedders or will i have to switch it out with a different one for EFI.

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    if your efi parts car is a 88-89 then its better to use that cause they got the 4-2-1 header design. But if i was you, i would look into buying an after market header like the pacesetter (since DC is discontinued and impossible to find) and hook it up to utelize the full power. Stock headers dont make much difference but u will a lot of diffence just by switching to efi.

    ps: keep ur Carb head. and switch the cams to the efi (if 88-89 efi only). you will defenitely feel the power.

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    don't mean to take over or anything....
    but yea efi has carb by the balls ( if the car is stock).
    i had an lx-i that car could peel out and keep going..unlike my lx..
    once i did mods it ran richer, and it seems when i floor it.. it peels out and then feels like theres no gas then takes off with power.
    i think you'll like the fact of having efi..
    you can mod it and not have to worry about if you fail emission in some states.
    you can drive the hell out of it and still maintain a good fuel economy.
    it may take awhile but it's worth it.
    i can't wait to start on mines.....
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