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    Been a bit busy, finally got around to finishing the mounts. I don't know if I can offer the tranny mount bracket, as I had to weld mine in to form to the chassis shape. The PRI bolt in style is just too weak. I'll make a jig of my rear and driver mounts before I mount everything up for good. Here's a few photos for now =)

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    awesome job. looks vewwy delishuzzzzzzzzzz!!!! finish it up and make some nice production models of those mounts!!

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    Looks good. The PRI bolt in bracket is pretty weak but I bolted it on and also welded it. Welds look like shit but hey, it works. Anyway, my bracket on the driver side looks different. It doesn't set back close to the firewall as far. I'll have to take a pic later today when my girl brings my camera back. If you make production versions of these, the 2 different brackets could pose a problem.
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    IT looks cool man. good job

    ps: ever thought of making some urathane mounts for the Stock A20? few might be interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveDX89
    Looks good. The PRI bolt in bracket is pretty weak but I bolted it on and also welded it. Welds look like shit but hey, it works. Anyway, my bracket on the driver side looks different. It doesn't set back close to the firewall as far. I'll have to take a pic later today when my girl brings my camera back. If you make production versions of these, the 2 different brackets could pose a problem.
    The PRI kit uses the old 2 bolt style driver mount; I used the newer 3 bolt GSR mount, which sits back toward the firewall about 1.5".
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    good goin ray! can't wait to see the finished prod.
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    how did you center the motor to make sure it was sitting in the bay correctly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by racetek82
    The PRI kit uses the old 2 bolt style driver mount; I used the newer 3 bolt GSR mount, which sits back toward the firewall about 1.5".
    Yep, that's what I'm talking about. Any plans on making it both ways or just make people swap brackets?

    PS. GRRRRR, you have more tranny clearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NXRacer
    how did you center the motor to make sure it was sitting in the bay correctly?
    a tape measure and taking your time would do it. measure where you want the engine to go, build your mounts to put the engine there, install 'em.
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    Looking incredible man! I'd like to see you do the Kseries mounts too, but the Bseries is insanely cool! keep shooting us those pics!
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    Only k-series mounts most likely wouldnt be possible to make as bolt-on's. Rather cut&weld-on's...


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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatdane
    Only k-series mounts most likely wouldnt be possible to make as bolt-on's. Rather cut&weld-on's...
    true story. the engine is turned around and spins the other way. the tranny is on the driver side. that would require welding in new brackets, minimally.
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    Apparently Hasport's K mounts in the Civics are bolt in although I wouldn't trust those brackets just being bolted. I'd def weld them in.
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    I honestly would never trust bolt in brackets, unless the holes used were the same exact ones from the old mounts. I positioned the motor using the passenger side axle, some careful measuring, and a keen eye. It also helps to be fabricating stuff everyday and learn tricks. =) I'm planning on stickingf with the 3 bolt mount, just more piece of mind using it rather than the old 2 bolts style. The engine bracket is pretty cheap anyways if someone needs to swap for a new one, about $65 new from HASPORT. The tranny side mount is a standard HASPORT replacement. I'll take some more photos today if I have time.
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    Looks good. I want one

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    yeah i think you should start making them. or at least basic kit that can be welded at home.
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    yeah i dont mind weld-in brackets. so long as i can use stock b-series mounts and swap b-series engines in and out like it came that way in the car. i'd probably start off with a cheap b18a LS engine, then vtec that with a b16a2 head, then turbo. eventually a b20b/vtec turbo. thanks for all the hard work ray, keep it up. you shed new light for us 3gee'ers.

    i'm hoping you can use other stock honda axles mix-and-match style instead of having to cut some up and fabricate some.

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    i'd like just the mount kit... i like the a, but the be is better...

    what about something like a j swap? i mean, a v-6 might be attractive in this car...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla Sky
    i'd like just the mount kit... i like the a, but the be is better...

    what about something like a j swap? i mean, a v-6 might be attractive in this car...
    what? the A series isn't cramped enough for you?
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    lol, actually, i believe there is enough room... i would like to measure it, though...

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    Here's a pic of the rear mount:

    http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg

    The C&R aluminum Civic radiator, I welded in new lower tabs to mount the radiator lower so it would fit cleanly under the stock support.

    http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg

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    The motor mounted:

    http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MXk1NDE%3D.jpg

    I removed all the power steering and AC parts after this pic. I also removed anything else I didn't need.
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    that's hot. if i ever get my hands on a cheap b20b/z, i'm all over putting it in my 3G.
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    awesome job ray! that motor sits nicely in there. i'm guessing that axles are gonna be next. hopefully you can mix and match stock honda axles so you could just buy them off the auto parts store to replace them instead of having to make new custom ones.

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    The stock passenger side axles fits good. For the driver side, a 92-95 civic axle is sllightly too long. I'll take measurements and cross reference them to some available stock axles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by racetek82
    The stock passenger side axles fits good. For the driver side, a 92-95 civic axle is sllightly too long. I'll take measurements and cross reference them to some available stock axles.
    give these guys a call: http://driveshafts.com/vehicular.html

    these guys are good at making custom driveshafts: http://www.raxles.com/hybrids.aspx

    but i'm hoping you can get away with using stock honda axles so replacement is easy. once again, great job ray. looks like you got yourself a civic si/3gee hybrid for cheaper than you would buy a 99-00 civic si for!
    Last edited by ICEMAN707; 04-09-2005 at 10:25 PM.

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