PROJECT , TURBO ( adams86lxi )

**adams86lxi** · 04-03-2005, 06:36 PM

ALright i need to know this RIGHT NOW because im about to drill the hole. Where should i put the oil return line for the turbo oil drain????? Does it go on the front deep part towards the crank pulley, or the shallow part towards the transmission??????????????

**smufguy** · 04-03-2005, 08:43 PM

looks like the return is on the crank side (the big part) of the oil pan.

**Robs89LXi** · 04-04-2005, 04:40 AM

I think you just want to make sure it comes in above the oil level so as to not cause any back pressure. Make sure it is high up on the oil pan.

**adams86lxi** · 04-04-2005, 04:33 PM

hmm, well i drilled it yesterday and i just gessed where to put it. I think i put it above the oil line i judged it by the oil dip stick. It should work ok here i guess.

**smufguy** · 04-04-2005, 08:37 PM

damn adam, i replied to you like 2 hours later. well anyway, i guess it does not matter much, but have fun trying to bolt that thing up cause its gonna be right under ur turbo and its very very short hose too.

**AccordEpicenter** · 04-04-2005, 09:12 PM

looks good adam... put some jb weld around it for the HMT seal

**adams86lxi** · 04-04-2005, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by smufguy

damn adam, i replied to you like 2 hours later. well anyway, i guess it does not matter much, but have fun trying to bolt that thing up cause its gonna be right under ur turbo and its very very short hose too.

lmao! I got excited and couldnt wait so i just went for it and hoped for the best lol.

**adams86lxi** · 04-04-2005, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by AccordEpicenter

looks good adam... put some jb weld around it for the HMT seal

O i did. I put jb weld on the back side of the washer and put another washer on the inside along with a nut to hold it and then jb welded it all up.

**Robs89LXi** · 04-05-2005, 06:57 AM

You might be okay there, depending on how low your turbo hangs. The oil return is basically done by gravity, so make sure your line has a nice downward slope from the turbo to the oil pan. Leave just a small bit of slack (for vibration) but do not have so much line that it will sag and put a "belly" in the line for oil to accumulate. Like Praveen said, looks like you are going to have a real short line.

**adams86lxi** · 04-07-2005, 11:04 PM

alright im basically ready for this thing to start up! All i need to do now is run the charge pipes on one side of the motor. I now need to know where would be best for me to hook the vaccum lines up to with the differnt parts that use them. By this i mean should it be hooked up before or after the throttle body????

FMU
BOV
Wategate
boost guage

also what should i set my timing too? Right now i have it at about 13 degrees BTDC with 89 ocatane fuel and it doesnt have a knock or anything right now. What should i set it too with 5 psi of boost.

**smufguy** · 04-08-2005, 07:11 AM

Vaccum lines are always behind the Throttle Body adam. thats like engine 101 brotha. lol Before the TB there is no vaccum its pretty close to 1atm or in ur case a lil more till whatever boost kicks in.

so yeah, plug that shit up behind the tb. also, u can get a vaccum distributiom box and hook up ur lines, or just get a T and use it inline with your existing stuff.

PS: with the SEcondary and Cruise Vaccum ports free, you will have a total of three free vaccum ports on the manifold (if ur using 88-89 manifold) if not, then im not sure how many u got.

**adams86lxi** · 04-08-2005, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by smufguy

Vaccum lines are always behind the Throttle Body adam. thats like engine 101 brotha. lol Before the TB there is no vaccum its pretty close to 1atm or in ur case a lil more till whatever boost kicks in.

lol, i know that, but for some reason the vaccum line for the wategate says to hook it up before the throttle body? I was just curious if this was right or not?

**Robs89LXi** · 04-08-2005, 03:08 PM

It is not a vaccum line, it reads positive pressure (boost). That is what the wastegate does; it dumps off exessive pressure that you don't need. I think you have an internal wastegate, right? If so, you can hook that line up to the compressor side of the turbo, if you have the nipple there, or you can hook it up before the throttle body (again, if you have a source). Many internally wastegated turbo come with the tube connected to the compressor side already so as to measure the boost pressure as soon as it leaves the compressor, and thus bleed off any excess. The better way, I think, is to have it routed to just before the throttle body (on your charge pipe) though, so you can get a true boost reading, after it has passed through the intercooler and piping. Remember, you will get some drop in pressure after going through all that, so it will be a more true reading of what your boost set point is.

**adams86lxi** · 04-08-2005, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Robs89LXi

It is not a vaccum line, it reads positive pressure (boost). That is what the wastegate does; it dumps off exessive pressure that you don't need. I think you have an internal wastegate, right? If so, you can hook that line up to the compressor side of the turbo, if you have the nipple there, or you can hook it up before the throttle body (again, if you have a source). Many internally wastegated turbo come with the tube connected to the compressor side already so as to measure the boost pressure as soon as it leaves the compressor, and thus bleed off any excess. The better way, I think, is to have it routed to just before the throttle body (on your charge pipe) though, so you can get a true boost reading, after it has passed through the intercooler and piping. Remember, you will get some drop in pressure after going through all that, so it will be a more true reading of what your boost set point is.

mine is a external... Would i just connect it in the same way????

BTW: I finished the car today and drove it around!!!! It for some reason wants to push 7psi instead of 5??? does anyone know why??? Now i got a serious question! I was driving it and for some odd reason it jumped to 13 or so psi and blew the dip stick out along with alot of oil??? Now im guessing that just from it boosting too much but i dont know???? Now its blowing alot of air or something from the crank case breather!!!!!! Did i screw something up bad or what is this from?????

**Robs89LXi** · 04-08-2005, 04:50 PM

Ruh-Roh! Blow back through the crankcase breather tube (y'know, the black box that connects the crankcase to the intake manifold)? Hadn't thought about that before. How about it, boosted guys?

Your external wastegate, is it adjustable? Do you have any pics of it?

*edit* Oops, just looked back at your original post. Imitation Tial? Maybe it is not holding, but how do you have the tubing run?

**adams86lxi** · 04-09-2005, 12:57 PM

well im going to rip it down as soon as i figure out where i can get the parts for it like a head gasket and all the rod bearings, piston rings etc. Its either a fried head gasket or fried piston rings. I only got to drive it maybe a total of 10 minutes before the vaccum line for the wastegate came off and it hit 15 or so psi and killed it. It still somehow runs fine but has no power. Just thought you guys would like these pics. This is how it sits right now before i rip it down.

enjoy.

EDIT!!! HERE IS MY VID!!!

remember this is after it blew. It still ran real good just didnt make any power. Im just cruising around in the vid!

http://keruh.com/3gz/adams%20turboed%20car.wmv

Here are some pics of it after i tore it down today! Its sad!

**88accordhb** · 04-09-2005, 01:23 PM

YOU BLEW IT ALREADY?!??! you bastard! damn adam. get it fixed and get some good vids. can't wait.

**MarioBurke** · 04-09-2005, 01:24 PM

that is sexy!

***Jareds 89 LX-i*** · 04-09-2005, 01:42 PM

Looks awsome!!

Looks like you've put alot of work into it... good job!

**RobT5580** · 04-09-2005, 02:05 PM

Damn i guess im not the only one with a black cloud following me. Hopefully its nothing major you should do a compression check because you may have burned up the sides of the pistons when the boost spiked. Hopefully thats not the case cause you will have to sleeve your block or hopefully be able to bore it depending on how bad the scoring is if thats what happened. The other option would be a custom set of oversized pistons but thats $700 and 5-6 weeks thats why i went with the sleeves.

**TTSpider** · 04-09-2005, 02:32 PM

very awesome i'd love to see some videos and hear that thing make some noise

**Hash_man_Se_i** · 04-09-2005, 11:10 PM

Damn that sucks man... so quickly too.

Just out of curiosity, what are the dimensions of that intercooler.. looks like a good size for our cars.

**NXRacer** · 04-09-2005, 11:12 PM

sucks to hear dude.

that is one sexy manifold.

**TheWatcher** · 04-09-2005, 11:19 PM

WHOA!

I think I had an orgasm!

**adams86lxi** · 04-09-2005, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by Hash_man_Se_i

Damn that sucks man... so quickly too.

Just out of curiosity, what are the dimensions of that intercooler.. looks like a good size for our cars.

its the johnny race car 5 inch intercooler. The core is only 5 inches tall by 33 inches long (38 with the end tanks) and 2.5 inches wide. It fits pretty good.