Do the work yourself and the B16 swap ain't so bad.

**my86dx4dr** · 02-27-2005, 03:54 PM

Ok, Lilhonda17 just came over to my place,

I checked out his setup with the b16.

Anytime someone brings up the swap, they get the automatic "PRI dont make the mount so your going to need LOTS of money!"

Im sorry, but i seen this guys work, all he did was redrill the drivers side stock a20 mount,

For the rear mount on the firewall, he welded in a plate for another stock Mount.

I didnt check the others, But from what i seen with this,
I'l bet you he gets the h22 done, for cheaper then ever thought of.

Now the h22 subject im gonna sit back and learn,

But i have PERSONALY seen this b16 and from what i seen, his setup Is decently clean. The body of his car is in the project stage, But that motor is in there, and He said its been in there for a couple years. you guys really should consider Looking into this and being brave enough to try it out!

I'am seriously considering Fallowing him in the b16a3 boat and maybe swapping some info with him when the time comes.

I have yet to see someone else attempt this without the PRI kit! untill now. Hell i give the guy props!

**NXRacer** · 02-27-2005, 03:59 PM

thats awesome.

**AccordEpicenter** · 02-27-2005, 04:07 PM

if you have the time and equipment you could make damn near anything fit

**my86dx4dr** · 02-27-2005, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by AccordEpicenter

if you have the time and equipment you could make damn near anything fit

Thang about it is, He did this in his driveway, with the same everyday tools a home mechanic would have. Like he said, He's no pro welder so what little that got welded (one plate) was all the extra tools you would need

He has a 00' civic si guage cluster in, as well as the 90-93 altezza's Sure altezza's arnt my thang, But man, The guy has skillz

This will be by far the tightest 3g when its done, shaved' kitted, h22, lsd, and thangs like the gauge cluster and p30(if i remember right) ecu

I think i just found myself wanting another 3g

***Vanilla Sky*** · 02-27-2005, 04:20 PM

oldschoolswap's first swap was custom...

**my86dx4dr** · 02-27-2005, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Vanilla Sky

oldschoolswap's first swap was custom...

no shit? and yet he never posted any how to's or info?

***Vanilla Sky*** · 02-27-2005, 04:46 PM

not that i know of, but you can PM him and ask him questions

**my86dx4dr** · 02-27-2005, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Vanilla Sky

not that i know of, but you can PM him and ask him questions

Yeah he comes here about once every 6 months

haha now im curious just what he has done

**hondamanlxi** · 02-27-2005, 04:51 PM

Do ls motors and b16's bolt in the same? b/c i have access to one right now...

ps: this thread is useless w/o pics! id love to see this!

**shepherd79** · 02-27-2005, 04:51 PM

ok, so what did lilhonda used for his axels?

**my86dx4dr** · 02-27-2005, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by hondamanlxi

Do ls motors and b16's bolt in the same? b/c i have access to one right now...

I Think so, Because someone here has the black coupe with ls-vtec using the b16/b18 PRI kit

**my86dx4dr** · 02-27-2005, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by shepherd79

ok, so what did lilhonda used for his axels?

One side is stock
The other side is a PRI

Buts been said the g2 has similer axles

**my86dx4dr** · 02-27-2005, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by hondamanlxi

ps: this thread is useless w/o pics! id love to see this!

https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?t=41676 there in that thread!

I dont have a camera Now,

or i would of snapped a few pics,

I kinda wish i would of asked for a ride around the block

**RobT5580** · 02-27-2005, 05:01 PM

The problem is the majority of the people wanting swaps want bolt in stuff and probably cant fabricate the stuff themselves which would drive the cost up a lot. I considered the H22 a while back since i have friends with the skill needed to make a nice swap but I never pursued it since turbo was always in the back of my mind because of Justin. You can do a lot of stuff and if you can weld/fabricate then you in good shape.

***A20A1*** · 02-27-2005, 05:08 PM

Is it okay to cut and weld axles? Like if it was too long or too short or if one side had a different amount of teeth on it then the A20.

Is balancing them the issue or is strenght/allignment the issue? or both... cause I don't see people talking about it much... so I figure it's a no go.

**AccordEpicenter** · 02-27-2005, 05:10 PM

I had to fabricate everything for my turbo setup, and the reason i did this over a B series swap is i think its still easier to go turbo, plus A series engines/trannies are cheap and easy to come by. Only thing that sucks about the a series than i can see is that you cant get a REAL lsd... I wanna see pics of these swapped cars, im sure everybody has a little different setup.

**RobT5580** · 02-27-2005, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by A20A1

Is it okay to cut and weld axles? Like if it was too long or too short or if one side had a different amount of teeth on it then the A20.

Is balancing them the issue or is strenght/allignment the issue? or both... cause I don't see people talking about it much... so I figure it's a no go.

Balancing is a big issue and you dont need to do this. You can mix and match honda axles fairly easily so there is no need for cutting and welding. If your doing a custom swap with your own mounts engine placement is critical for your axles. If you screw up that part then custome axles will need to be made.

**SteveDX89** · 02-27-2005, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by AccordEpicenter

I wanna see pics of these swapped cars, im sure everybody has a little different setup.

Sounds good to me. I also have been thinking of making fabrication drawings of the mounts for production. I plan to pull my motor back out and while it's out, I can use my engineering background, etc. to make accurate drawings. Now I will need to find somewhere to have them made. If I did this, I would prefer to have them machined from solid aluminum so they would be HASport quality instead of PRI's weld together job. It all depends on the cost, the interest and commitment of people to buy.

**Oldblueaccord** · 02-28-2005, 09:43 AM

I'm new here so this is a little outside looking in. I lurked here a little for about 2 years before I decided I heard enuff BS and maybe I could make a differance.

WHY post about a cool motor swap you did when there 50 people here saying it cant be done or its dumb to do it. I mean why waste the hot air.

About the h22 deal I wound post a thing until they remove that post at the top saying dont ask about it and do post any info on it. I mean cmon its called thinking outside of the box.

But hey its not my website i just post what I know.

wp

**keruhas184** · 02-28-2005, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by SteveDX89

...Now I will need to find somewhere to have them made. If I did this, I would prefer to have them machined from solid aluminum so they would be HASport quality instead of PRI's weld together job...

https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?t=21311

That emachineshop.com sounds like a great place to get this done at... but then again, I wouldn't be the one doing the drawings... so I don't really know.

**SteveDX89** · 02-28-2005, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by keruhas184

https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?t=21311

That emachineshop.com sounds like a great place to get this done at... but then again, I wouldn't be the one doing the drawings... so I don't really know.

Hmm. That looks promising. Well anyone, who is interested should let me know.

**keruhas184** · 02-28-2005, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by SteveDX89

Well anyone, who is interested should let me know.

I thought you wanted to do the drawings to help out the 3gee community... Giving back to the people thing, you know

**smufguy** · 02-28-2005, 01:53 PM

all this talk and no pictures, what the fuck fellas??????????

**SteveDX89** · 02-28-2005, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by keruhas184

I thought you wanted to do the drawings to help out the 3gee community... Giving back to the people thing, you know

I would be helping but I'm not footing the bill for it.

**SQ is the SQUAD** · 03-01-2005, 08:51 AM

i also seen his swap pics are he did make it look like a simple swap.. he did things i wiuld of never thought of. i am using his method for my swap. as for the axils, you just gotta mix and match until you get whats right, as soon as it gets warm (we just got aonther 7 inches os sonw) i will start working on the axil problem