B20a vs H22a please DO NOT DELEte

***Vanilla Sky*** · 04-10-2005, 07:51 PM

yeah, but i believe he gave up on the idea... too much to handle for someone that doesn't know a whole lot about cars

**Priest** · 04-11-2005, 07:09 PM

Well, Vanilla I am interested in this swap and I'm in Jacksonville. Right outside of Orange Park. So, when I get around to starting this I would take any help I can get. I'll be honest and say I know pretty much jack shit about swapping engines, much less anything. I'm know the very basics and I'm learning more everyday. Also, a guy I work with said he has a friend that has two h22a's sitting there waiting for a swap. I'm supposed to find out how much he wants for one soon.

Either way, if you want to be a part of this I welcome the help.

**SteveDX89** · 04-12-2005, 02:55 AM

Originally Posted by Priest

Well, Vanilla I am interested in this swap and I'm in Jacksonville. Right outside of Orange Park. So, when I get around to starting this I would take any help I can get. I'll be honest and say I know pretty much jack shit about swapping engines, much less anything. I'm know the very basics and I'm learning more everyday. Also, a guy I work with said he has a friend that has two h22a's sitting there waiting for a swap. I'm supposed to find out how much he wants for one soon.

Either way, if you want to be a part of this I welcome the help.

This will be one fun experience.

***Vanilla Sky*** · 04-12-2005, 03:05 AM

i'd love to be part of it... first thing, though, ask if you can borrow an engine for sizing... i'd like to see how one would sit in our engine bay... i have a stripped accord we can try it in sittin in my yard...

and steve, i'm willing to bet that in the end, it's just gonna be way too expensive for most of us, or way too much work for most of us...

**ropponmatsu** · 04-12-2005, 02:02 PM

ok heres my question which has more Hp stock the JDM h22a or the JDM b20a.
Secondly, which one of these motors can handle the most psi.
Thirdly which one over all has the potential to be the more power ful one (i mean 1/4mile)
*mods please dont delete my post to quickly atleast give me two days then wipe it off you forums like it never existed* Please thank you

**my86dx4dr** · 04-12-2005, 02:15 PM

Dude. h22a has more power. And niether can handle more "psi" then the other. on stock internals dont run more then 7-9psi..

Sounds like what you need to do is visit some Prelude forums. and ask them this question. do a little research man.

Second. you CANNOT pick one or the other to have more potential. with endless cash you still get the same thang. its all about how well they're built.

yeah. So you really need to do some research.

**NXRacer** · 04-12-2005, 02:32 PM

stock for stock, the h22 will run circles around the B20a, but you're going to pay a LOT more money to have the H22 in and running, then you would the B20.

***A20A1*** · 04-12-2005, 03:52 PM

This does not belong in research and development.

**Priest** · 04-12-2005, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Vanilla Sky

i'd love to be part of it... first thing, though, ask if you can borrow an engine for sizing... i'd like to see how one would sit in our engine bay... i have a stripped accord we can try it in sittin in my yard...

and steve, i'm willing to bet that in the end, it's just gonna be way too expensive for most of us, or way too much work for most of us...

Agreed.

I didn't find out about the engine yet. I didn't get a chance to ask my co worker. He has a 5th Gen Lude, though I doubt he'll let me borrow it and pull the engine out. lol

***Vanilla Sky*** · 04-12-2005, 05:16 PM

well, you said he had them sitting, so i kinda assumed they were pulled already... if you could get a hold of a bad h series, that would be better because it wouldn't be as much of a money loss if it doesn't work

**mouchyn** · 04-12-2005, 07:16 PM

let it be known that both engines arne't known to handle boost well. the H22 is known to have oiling problems when stressed with forced induction. the b20a stands up to boost a little better in that respect, but it is an overall weaker engine.

if you really want to get crazy with the turbo (more than 10 psi reliably), i would go with something like the b17 or b18 -- maybe even b20b/z if you can afford it.

**89ACCORDVTECH** · 04-12-2005, 10:18 PM

Get an h23 with a h22 vtec dohc head its alot of work but you will have 240hp stock but dont tell no one. because everyone on this site thinks its impossible but its not if you take the head to a machine shop.

**88accordhb** · 04-12-2005, 10:39 PM

b18b turbo, don't go vtec head or anything like that.

**Hash_man_Se_i** · 04-12-2005, 11:58 PM

I voted B20... I remember one member Dyno'd his accord and I believe he was 140 whp with the b20....

I know locally people with I/H/E on their 5th gen prelude's have put down a weak 130-140 whp reading. The H22 motor is a terrible platform IMO.

**Oldblueaccord** · 04-13-2005, 12:14 AM

Originally Posted by 89ACCORDVTECH

Get an h23 with a h22 vtec dohc head its alot of work but you will have 240hp stock but dont tell no one. because everyone on this site thinks its impossible but its not if you take the head to a machine shop.

Nice sig. I wont tell.

wp

**SteveDX89** · 04-13-2005, 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by 89ACCORDVTECH

Get an h23 with a h22 vtec dohc head its alot of work but you will have 240hp stock but dont tell no one. because everyone on this site thinks its impossible but its not if you take the head to a machine shop.

Who said it's impossible? I've even told someone on this site who also has an H23 Prelude to do it.

ropponmatsu, before you make another thread or post on this website, tell us all right now what your intent for this car is. Street car, drag car (track only), dyno queen? The most hp is not the most important thing in a street car. 350 whp is about max. Another over and you can't control it.

**mouchyn** · 04-13-2005, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by SteveDX89

most hp is not the most important thing in a street car. 350 whp is about max. Another over and you can't control it.

meh. a better way to say it is you won't ever use it safely or legally. any experienced precision driver can handle more than 350 whp. You just won't ever have to on public roads unless you're driving like an idiot. if you're driving like an idiot, then you have bigger things to worry.

**ropponmatsu** · 04-13-2005, 06:51 AM

originally posted by SteveDX89:
before you make another thread or post on this website, tell us all right now what your intent for this car is.

Actually im not sure, but im hoping on having like overall a very fast honda, (for street) so that i can piss on mustangs and get put in magizines. In addition i would never be satisfied with only 350hp. Does this answer your question????!

***Vinny*** · 04-13-2005, 07:01 AM

Aren't you getting a 4th gen accord? Can we PLEASE stop creating BS threads every day

**mouchyn** · 04-13-2005, 07:05 AM

yeah, it kinda does answer the question. if all you want is a fast street car, why not buy one? turning an old accord into a 400 hp rocket isn't going to be reliable -- especially with the way you'll probably drive it.

pushing those kinds of numbers in your accord or any honda, really, isn't going to last very long. so, unless you plan on rebuilding engines every 10k miles, and doing endless maintenance, i would buy something else to go fast in.

what's your budget like? it better be in the 10's of thousands to take on a project like a magazine-worthy 350+ hp honda.

**ropponmatsu** · 04-13-2005, 07:16 AM

i dont know where you get that i am getting a 4g accord.
whatever
Ok, im not so worried about getting in a magazine as i am about killing mustangs. That sure is going to suck though rebuilding my engine every 10k miles s***

**mouchyn** · 04-13-2005, 07:22 AM

why not sell your accord and buy something a little more suited to compete with the ponies? something with potential and RWD, maybe.

rx7? 240sx? mustang?

if you can't beat 'em (cheaply), join 'em!

**NXRacer** · 04-13-2005, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by ropponmatsu

i dont know where you get that i am getting a 4g accord.
whatever
Ok, im not so worried about getting in a magazine as i am about killing mustangs. That sure is going to suck though rebuilding my engine every 10k miles s***

if you want to beat mustangs, you're gonna have to drive something with more potential or spend a lot of money. 20 yr old grocery getters arent exactly a good platform to start with if your goal is to walk mustangs.

***Vinny*** · 04-13-2005, 07:32 AM

Originally Posted by ropponmatsu

i dont know where you get that i am getting a 4g accord.
whatever
Ok, im not so worried about getting in a magazine as i am about killing mustangs. That sure is going to suck though rebuilding my engine every 10k miles s***

I'm getting it from what you have posted

Originally Posted by ropponmatsu

ok im getting a newer car a 4g honda. so if anyone would like to point me in the right direction (that is a forum for 4g hondas) i would appreciate it. im temperarily given up on putting a h22 in my 3g and im putting it in my 4g and i have some very mionor questions and i know alot of people get aggravated on hear if you ask off topic qeustion or question that can be found through the search button soooo, im adking for some direction here
Thank You

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Why don't you do some research as to what exactly it is you want in a car and what the costs will be for the project before you post a thread next time. If you have no idea what is is you want to do or how much you can spend theres no way we can help you. As far as the 350whp honda engine goes you better have REALLY deep pockets

**ropponmatsu** · 04-13-2005, 08:24 AM

ok i think this post is becoming off topic. this post was not a long tedoius rembremand for me it was simply which engine is better H22 or B20. More specifically i just wanted to know which one could hold more pressure, and im talking theoritically here, like how thick is the block, this has nothing to do with the stock motor (psi wise) its just simply in THE END which motor could handly more pressure???