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    Wait a minute...why does your profile say 89 Accord h23 w/ h22 head swap? if you have an h23 in your accord why in the crap would you even think about the a20??? if i'm off, then please clarify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AccordEpicenter
    sei has 5 extra hp
    What prestiguous source did you get that info from? Last time I looked through my Chilton which lists every motor available in Accords and Preludes from 84-95, there was no 127 hp A20A3.
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    in my se-i owners manual it says 122....sry buddy
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    yea i did switch the ecu, i figured i would have to since there wasnt any emitions stuff.

    i dont think there would be any way that dual tips would give you an extra 5hp, lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveDX89
    What is the compression ratio of an A20A4?
    9,4:1 and the compression ratio of an A20A3 is 8,8:1. At least the A20A3's here in europe are.


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    the A20A3 has 9.3:1 here in the US. so it is not that big of a deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 89ACCORDVTECH
    B20s are shit anyway unless u build it TYPE "R"

    Man you sound like a little kid with some of your statements. To be correct they are talking about a different B20, the one you are talking about comes out of the new CRV's and the one they are talking about comes out of the 3rd generation EDM Si accords. Also the b20 is not a piece of shit if built right, compared to the a20a4 of yours it would dominate all around (quiality, perfromance gains, aftermarket support). They have produced some very high numbers out of those motors without putting Vtec heads or raising the compression. They are very turbo friendly motors and very well built. I think you should read what you are about to post before you post it, becuase every statment you have made in this thread was wrong.

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    In Europe or at least in Australia the SI badge is the SOHC A20 the 2.0I-16 is the DOHC B20
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    Quote Originally Posted by A20A1
    In Europe or at least in Australia the SI badge is the SOHC A20 the 2.0I-16 is the DOHC B20

    I think I said it right, the EDM Si only comes with a b20 Or is there a a20 powered EDM Si also?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HondaBoy
    do they even do real emissions checks where you are? like in your area. i know your in california though, so they supposed to. as for me, i've become friends with a few different shops that do inspections. only thing they want is the car to be safe and road worthy, otherwise they dont check guys w/o a cat or other stuff. i'm going to have to make sure next time i get my car inspected, the person i know is at the shop i go to.
    It's pretty much the same in houston. My dad has had two cracked headlights with book tape over them. Depending on the shop though. My Dad's mechanic took it over to his friend that has an inspection shop. The inspection cost just under $100. They are normally about $40. Cash always helps persuade

    Unless you life in Europe I think it would have been just as beneficial to have bought a a20a1 and build it up. That's just my .02 cents and feel free to correct me. In regards to the B20 comment even stock from the CRV. Just think about it. It's got to have power but even more so torque to move that SUV. So just using common since if you were to put that in a lighter car it should accelerate quite well. But once again all I was using was common sense not any facts or figures so correct me all you want .
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    126 HP and 133 tq? that's pretty laughable for a late 90's 2.0L engine. the craptastic b20a in my 3G prelude made more power and torque than that!

    the b20b needs some SERIOUS work to make it a worthy swap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by w00tw00t111
    In regards to the B20 comment even stock from the CRV. Just think about it. It's got to have power but even more so torque to move that SUV. So just using common since if you were to put that in a lighter car it should accelerate quite well. But once again all I was using was common sense not any facts or figures so correct me all you want .
    just a side note getting a little off track, some of the students here at the wyotech campus sacramento put the CRV B20 WITH the whole AWD system..... not that is hott shit. a 2300 lbs car launching with AWD drive!!
    **please side note for the two of you that always read my post and go talk shit about it, get a life**

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarioBurke
    just a side note getting a little off track, some of the students here at the wyotech campus sacramento put the CRV B20 WITH the whole AWD system..... not that is hott shit. a 2300 lbs car launching with AWD drive!!

    Did they put it into a civic? becuase that would just be clean as hell. Do you know what they did for axles and rear hubs.
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    yep blue civic SI, bronze rims. used the entire drive train from the CRV, shorted the drive shaft, made new mount brackets for the supsension both front and rear because it is a bit wider. i think some how they got away with using the hub that was already on the SI
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarioBurke
    yep blue civic SI, bronze rims. used the entire drive train from the CRV, shorted the drive shaft, made new mount brackets for the supsension both front and rear because it is a bit wider. i think some how they got away with using the hub that was already on the SI

    that is so Pimp, I did see an integra once that had that done. It ended up not working to well so the made it into a RWD car and started drifiting it. One thing I was curiose about is if it was a Five speed, because the CRV never came in a 5-speed or at least the AWD dident. Sorry to get so off topic .
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    actually that part I am not sure about? I'll have to find out more. they took the car out of the shop though cause one of the teachers was fucked up and put fat scratch in the hood and then denied it and wouldnt pay to fix it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legend_master
    I think I said it right, the EDM Si only comes with a b20 Or is there a a20 powered EDM Si also?
    There is no SI in Europe.
    B20 were only put into sedans with 2,0i-16 sig on it. with 133 HP or 137 HP
    all of the others were A20ies.


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    8.8:1 = 86-87 efi
    9.3:1 = 88-89 efi.
    9.1:1 = 86-89 carbs.

    Sorry to barge into this thread and state the obvious. but seems like this is the second thread thats being fugged up in a technical/performance section.

    Eurpoean cars (some of them) did not have Oxygen sensors and ran different emission system with a different ecu and regardless of whatever, USDM 86-87 efis ran single Oxygen sensors and 88-89 ran with two Oxygen sensors and had different ECUs for those two year periods even tho they belong to the same generation.

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    Yeah, you Are right

    in Europe it was like

    No Oxygen Sensor A20A2 and A20A4 olso B20A2
    With Oxygen sensor A20A1 and A20A3 olso B20A8 - all of those 3 had only one oxygen sensor.

    engine code/ compresion ratio/ HP
    A20A1 / 9,1:1 / 102
    A20A2 / 9,2:1 / 106
    A20A3 / 8,8:1 / 115
    A20A4 / 9,4:1 / 122 - also said to ran high octan fuel!!

    A20A2 and A20A4 had double down pipe instead of single one used in A20A1 nad A20A3. I'm preety sure those ran different ECU too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MarioBurke
    just a side note getting a little off track, some of the students here at the wyotech campus sacramento put the CRV B20 WITH the whole AWD system..... not that is hott shit. a 2300 lbs car launching with AWD drive!!
    And that is why I want to go to Wyotech!

    that is so Pimp, I did see an integra once that had that done. It ended up not working to well so the made it into a RWD car and started drifiting it. One thing I was curiose about is if it was a Five speed, because the CRV never came in a 5-speed or at least the AWD dident. Sorry to get so off topic .
    Yeah I saw that on a drifting show. He did much better then a fwd integra would IMO. Seemed like it would be quite awesome until I heared about the CRV AWD that is just amazing! I would kill for that. I don't know if many of you US guys realize it but in 5 to 9 years we won't have to go through an inspection b/c our cars will be over 25 years old. That'll be pretty exciting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micah 89LXi
    thats whats great about living in podunk wv where no one gives a shit whats on or off the car

    i hear ya there!!!! i can put anything on my car and itll still pass inspection. i could gut the cat but as long as the shell is there itll still pass. it dont matter!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by 89ACCORDVTECH
    OH WELL! All l know is that igot a A20A4 and u dont(.)
    see you keep thinkin you got better shit and you watch some kid in a corrola is gonna whip ur ass in a race and then youll be thinkin "man my car is shit!" then youll be cussin thepeople who sold you the motor cause its a piece of shit
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    62se-310 at Paul's site have a description of cam shafts on page 2-5.
    Inj. KX has a delay of one intake valve while opening. KG has no delay.
    KX seems to be A3. KG means A4.
    The reason of delay is better mixture mixing because of screwing of mixture flow.
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    either way you can just swap the a3 manifolds onto it will retain all stock emmissions

    nice a20a4, if the compression ratio is lower on that engine congrats you have a cheap $/hp mod waiting under your cylinder head
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