New suspention

**Legend_master** · 06-12-2005, 08:08 AM

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I tried to install front 1996-1999 civic Illuminas struts matched with front 1986-1989 Accord dropzone springs(not coilovers). I had to modify the lower fork, because the civic struts were much thinker then the factory accord struts. I ground out the inside of the perch and got the struts to fit. They matched up with the accord springs perfectly. I will admit they were a little tall, but used with a light drop they could work well. If you dont already have the struts and you want a much eaiser setup check out these two threads.

Front 1988-1990 civic struts
Full bodied coilovers

***Vanilla Sky*** · 06-12-2005, 08:57 AM

cool. worse to worse, we can send them in and have them shortened.

**Legend_master** · 06-12-2005, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by Vanilla Sky

cool. worse to worse, we can send them in and have them shortened.

The only reason that would need to be done is if you were planning on slamming the hell out of the car, but if you were to use civic springs than theoretically there would be no difference. If you just drop the car 1 to 2.5 inches the struts will still be resting at a point to were the ride would not be affected, but when you dump the vehicle the struts rest way to low and none of the gas or liquid can get undernieth the rod to allow for damper. I know what I am say, but I dont think I am saying it right. I will draw a digram when I get home from work.

***Vanilla Sky*** · 06-12-2005, 09:42 AM

i know what you're talking about, i'm just saying that for people that do want to dump the car on the ground, these struts can be shortened. you can buy struts for civics shortened off the shelf. a lot easier to find than struts for our cars.

**Legend_master** · 06-12-2005, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Vanilla Sky

i know what you're talking about, i'm just saying that for people that do want to dump the car on the ground, these struts can be shortened. you can buy struts for civics shortened off the shelf. a lot easier to find than struts for our cars.

I have heard that Lowboys and dropzone struts are designed for extremely lowered cars. They have a shorter rod and a deeper piston to allow for the strut to sit real low and the rod to still have pressure underneith it.

***Vanilla Sky*** · 06-12-2005, 09:53 AM

a lot of the full-bodied coilovers as shortend at least 1/2 inch

**Slavic** · 06-12-2005, 10:01 AM

Am I understanding correctly that You are using Civic front shocks with Accord springs on an Accord? What Year Civic? How well does that work?

**Legend_master** · 06-12-2005, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Slavic

Am I understanding correctly that You are using Civic front shocks with Accord springs on an Accord? What Year Civic? How well does that work?

YOu are correct and the springs fit perfectly on the struts, but I have not installed them yet. The only difference in the struts seems to be that the civic struts are longer than the accord struts. If you do a search there have been a few people on here that have doen this. BTW I am using 96-00 civic struts, these would also be the same struts as the same year integra. I will be installing them on wednesday and I will keep you guys updated.

***carotman*** · 06-12-2005, 03:45 PM

The illuminas are great.

Just make sure you don't ride them on the bumpstop :p

**Legend_master** · 06-12-2005, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by carotman

The illuminas are great.

Just make sure you don't ride them on the bumpstop :p

yea they are good struts, I can't wait to get them on my ride. I dont think the dropzone springs will drop them to the bumpstops or at least I hope not. What do you guys think?

**Busted_Blue** · 06-12-2005, 05:02 PM

the front ones fit? I always thought it was only the rears that fit well.

**Legend_master** · 06-12-2005, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by Busted_Blue

the front ones fit? I always thought it was only the rears that fit well.

The fronts are just longer, but the rears require washers or that is what I have heard.

**88accordalltheway** · 06-12-2005, 10:21 PM

this is gunna be an awesome break through if they come out well.... Keep us posted!!!!

**Legend_master** · 06-13-2005, 12:00 AM

I will keep you guys updated, They will be installed as of wednesday and I will test drive and let you guys know.

**Legend_master** · 06-15-2005, 03:17 PM

well I got them installed and they are stiff as hell with those springs. This is not a simple bolt on mod. I had to modify the fork that attaches to the strut, because the civic strut is thicker than the accord by a good amount. I kinda rig it for now, but I am going to go to the junk yard and do it the right way. I used a wedge to bend the fork and then had to use a drimmel tool to make it even bigger. I am thinking about modifing a couple more forks for people if they want to do the civic struts also. Would there be anybody interested in that? I dont have any picture, but I will try and get some later (I am already 2 hours late for work). I will tell more when I get off work.

**TheWatcher** · 06-15-2005, 06:56 PM

You got those cheap ebay dropzone springs, so you're gonna bounce all over the place.

This was posted a month ago, you should have read it before getting the dropzones, https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?t=43729.

Peace.

**Legend_master** · 06-15-2005, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by TheWatcher

You got those cheap ebay dropzone springs, so you're gonna bounce all over the place.

This was posted a month ago, you should have read it before getting the dropzones, https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?t=43729.

Peace.

Actually there quite stiff, the reason that everybody thinks they are bouncy is because they used the wrong kind of struts with them. If you have a stiff spring then you need to use a stiff strut. The bounce I get from the car at all is from the tire flex. The suspention is solid as a rock and all I need is some low profile tires and I will be set.

**Busted_Blue** · 06-15-2005, 07:31 PM

how does it look?

**TheWatcher** · 06-15-2005, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Legend_master

Actually there quite stiff, the reason that everybody thinks they are bouncy is because they used the wrong kind of struts with them. If you have a stiff spring then you need to use a stiff strut. The bounce I get from the car at all is from the tire flex. The suspention is solid as a rock and all I need is some low profile tires and I will be set.

Whatever you want to believe. You get what you pay for.

These two threads, and numerous other threads, say you are mistaken.

Quote from one of the threads, "dropzone is horrible". 'Nuff said.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=901721

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=761926

Just so the newbies don't all go out and buy dropzones. You are all warned.

Peace.

**Legend_master** · 06-15-2005, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by Busted_Blue

how does it look?

you can't even tell that they were not made for our cars. I need to set them a little lower, because they are to stiff. I feel every single bump, nook, and cranny in the road. I will get pictures up tommarow, I am to tired tonight.

**Legend_master** · 06-15-2005, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by TheWatcher

Whatever you want to believe. You get what you pay for.

These two threads, and numerous other threads, say you are mistaken.

Quote from one of the threads, "dropzone is horrible". 'Nuff said.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=901721

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=761926

Just so the newbies don't all go out and buy dropzones. You are all warned.

Peace.

**NotFast** · 06-19-2005, 09:50 PM

My springs look good, i'm glad you finally have a chance to use them.

You still have the legend?

**Legend_master** · 06-19-2005, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by wreckd87lx

My springs look good, i'm glad you finally have a chance to use them.

You still have the legend?

No I actually had to sell it to get my motor swap going (after 5 years and it was my first car). The springs are great, they work awsome with the Tokicos. I have been waiting awhile to put them on untill i got some nice struts, so this was the perfect opertunity. I hadent seen you around the forum much.

**NotFast** · 06-19-2005, 10:38 PM

Yea i don't really have time for it anymore

. I moved to a new apartment and don't have a computer, but hopefully tuesday i'll be getting a 89 lxi coupe.

**Busted_Blue** · 06-20-2005, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by TheWatcher

Whatever you want to believe. You get what you pay for.

These two threads, and numerous other threads, say you are mistaken.

Quote from one of the threads, "dropzone is horrible". 'Nuff said.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=901721

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=761926

Just so the newbies don't all go out and buy dropzones. You are all warned.

Peace.

Dropzone springs aren't bad springs. they are just stiff as hell and there isn't a strut that can handle spring rates of that caliber. There isn't much we can do with suspension with struts that are designed for our cars except konis and bilstiens revalved. Dropzones are stiff and having illuminas definitely will make a ride that is stiff but bounce due to improper match of spring and strut.