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    new muffler on order

    I guess this is the right forum for this,my glass pack is getting louder and louder due to the baffling becoming ineffective over time,so it's time for a new one, i decided to get a flow tech purple horny muffler from summit racing. a 2 1/4 slip fit is 23.88 $ it has spiral baffles and should kill some of the high pitch resonance. i just thought it was kind of cool looking and at 24 inches it will fit under the back of the hatch easy. besides when someone asks what kind of muffler you have the look on their face is priceless. I figure i better get one and quiet it down before the F&F movie comes out. the cops will all be looking for kids in toyota hatches and you know how much a white hatch looks like a corola gts. the one in the picture is a header muffler with a downturn mine is a straight through one so i can use my aluminum tip. it's towards the middle of the page. the red thrush glass pack is what i have now.



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    Nice. A little on-off topic here, but those pricecs for those thrush packs are good. 2.5" i/o 47" long for <40 bucks. Assuming thats american, that puts it about 50 bucks for me. I was quoted 44.99 for a 2.5" glasspack 11" long. So I went with a cherry bomb.

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    yea thats what they call them. i have the thrush glass pack just like the one you are looking at,only shorter. it's got a lot of miles on it,so the carbon is building up in the perforations and making the baffling not work anymore. it's more like a straight pipe now. the one i'm getting is the purple one in the middle of the page,it's just a straight through one not a downturn. i have the billet aluminum tip so i thought i would polish it good and paint it with the purple anodize paint to match the muffler.

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    Hopefully you don't mind taking a slight detour for a sec lost for a while but, I was really considering the thrush gp but, I honestly had absolutely no clue what it would sound like on a "rice burner" rather then a 454 V-8. When you put it on I assume you had a cat but what else? And did it give you a reallly nice deep tone or what?
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    thats all right this thread is about mufflers anyway,yea when i first got it it had a pretty deep tone, remember these motors sound different then most of the civics with the smaller displacment engines,also the vtecs always sound whiney, it had less of a high pitch tone with the cat,but i had to remove it because of damage, in my opinion it sounded like a brittish car,being a two litre and all it has a deeper exaust note. it still has a good rumble but it doesn't cut down on the resonations anymore which makes it more rice sounding. if i had thought about it i would have put a flange on it instead of welding,then i could have just swapped it out easy,i've got my moneys worth out of it,for what it cost it lasted for a number of years,the problem with glass packs is they build up carbon over the years making the baffling not work as well. if you want a laugh i started it up on ramps with just the a pipe on,you would not believe how loud this motor is. my wife heard it two blocks away. even with the exaust on the volume level in the car is unreal. oh yea,with the glass pack you get that brap brap brapitty sound every time you let off the gas,at least with the carb.

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    just for a note,the entire exaust system,from where the original flex coupling would have been all the way to the muffler is all fabricated. that does affect the sound a lot too.

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    What happen with this wild muffler?

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    the fiberglass packing is getting less efective with age and the pitch is going up,i'm just replacing one glass pack with a different kind of glass pack. i need to change the cardomain site,i was thinking it was a cherry bomb,well it is but one by thrush, same thing different name. i'm keeping the tip,just putting it on a different muffler.

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    Wait so lost when you started it up when your wife heard it what was on? Just a straight pipe no cat, muffler etc?
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    the A pipe, the part that comes off of the manifold with the flex coupling,it wasn't hooked to anything because i had cut the old flex coupling off, i was mocking up the system so it could be welded. i clamped the entire system together then took it to work,removed it in one piece,and welded it all up.

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    it was cut right where the weld is near the top of the screen,that is the end of the pipe where it comes off the manifold,it's not a bad pipe from the factory, most of the restriction is from the converter back. they put a big pipe from the manifold back to get the exaust gasses into the converter as fast as possible,the hotter they are the better the converter works. from there on back they didn't care. the clamp on there is a hanger,i need to cut those bolts off. my A pipe is fabricated because i couldn't find one that wasn't bashed in at the bottom.
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    i decided this time i am going to use a glass pack with a collecter flange on it. same one as in the post, the other end is like 4 bucks, that way when it goes bad i can change it in about 5 minutes. three bolts and a couple of rubber donuts. i thought about getting a second quiet muffler for long trips,that way it would take a few minutes to swap them out, i guess the glass packs not bad at cruise,but it's super loud when you put your foot down. even at idle it's got that burble noise. it just isn't killing that ricy noise at high rpm like it used to.

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    I go by the saying "If it's to LOUD your too OLD"
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddude2uc
    I go by the saying "If it's to LOUD your too OLD"
    LOL.....
    loud doesn't bother me,loud when i was younger made it hard to hear not so loud now, i just don't like that high pitched ricy sound,low pitched loud is a different story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddude2uc
    I go by the saying "If it's to LOUD your too OLD"
    LOL.....
    I like that saying too, but mine is a little to loud for me.. I wonder how one of those glass packs would sound on a 2.8 v6 s10... hmmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Low Tek
    I like that saying too, but mine is a little to loud for me.. I wonder how one of those glass packs would sound on a 2.8 v6 s10... hmmmm
    WHAT? I couldn't hear what you said?

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    I decided to go with the cherry bomb instead,21.00 and no shipping fee at autozone. it's almost the same as the thrush. the tip is now the anodized red color, it just looks dark in the picture. now you can get an idea of the size of that tip.

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    i'm running 2 different sized glass packs inline as my mufflers. works well to keep the sound low but sounding deep and clean. i've had this exhaust for almost a year now. i thought i might as well save some money. if you think about it, those oversized polished "rice" mufflers are just glorified glass packs. lol. anyway, take some pix and post em when you get your exhaust on. of course you will, what am i thinking.
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    Ok i had to remove the paint from the tip because it got damaged,so i did a little more machine work for clearance and for looks, I had a little bit of a problem because i had to have the muffler tip expanded and it was bigger then the inside diameter of the exaust tip,just a little boring work and some clearance for the welds,I'm not sure if i'll go with polished or anodized purple yet, i see a lot of polished but never purple anywhere. I made an aluminum piece that matches the contour of the muffler, it sits on top of it and has a machined grove in it for a stainless steel worm drive clamp. I still have to tig the bracket on that for the hanger.
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    is that the tip you made from billet aluminium?
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    yea, i just cleaned it up good yesterday when i was working on it. i also machined the groves in the back end of it. it fits good under the hatch,the muffler is 26 7/8 same as the one i'm removing give or take an eighth, i put the tip next to a paint can in the picture for scale

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    ok clamp is done,it sits on top of the muffler and is made for a big worm drive clamp to go around the muffler. it hangs on the original donuts for the factory muffler. for a note that is what the material for the tip looked like before it was polished. i just bead blasted it was all. i will polish and paint the clamp later.

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    looking good tim

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    Well I decided to paint the tip that anodize gold color,it's not too out there,nice subtle color. when it's dry tomorrow i'll post some pics. it's a candy so you can see through it.
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    small update

    well just a small update, i managed to find time to have the header flanges expanded to fit the muffler,tomorrow they get welded up, i still have to make the reducer to weld to the other side, the paint on the muffler wasn't worth a crap so it'll get beadblasted off and the muffler will get repainted.

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