1988-1990 Front Civic Struts Work

[Zufer]

i actually just had to lengthen mine cause the drive side one was hitting the axle and mine were at the same height as the stock ones

[L3G10N]

ok well it's overclear now about the front!

now i just need to clear the rear parts lol. So you were saying that for the rear, the 96-00 will fit bolt one if i want to slam the car. What do you mean by this part?

[Zufer]

if you don't wanna run really low the EK rears are a no go. You have to run with less than an inch of fender gap... looks great but is really really low

[Legend_master]

tnx a lot. i definitly cannot ask better instruction for the front. and doing this mod will raise the car of around 1.5" ?? damn! they are real long!
So, i'll need to do this first and then, put some coil-over to sucessfully get the right height. This is still ok?
and for the rear, what need to be corrected?
tnx again and again!

As for the rear, the civic struts are much shorter and even with coil over set at max height the car will be dumped (or lowered allot, probably equivalent of a 3-4 inch drop) in the rear. I have not done anything with the rear yet, because I am in the process of modding the entire front suspension right now (check this thread). What I plan to do for the rear is placing 3 stock accord top hats on top of each other to extend the rear suspension a little. I have not done the rear civic struts yet, but I think that you might have to use civic coil overs to make this work. I believe NXracer has done the rear civic struts and could tell us for sure if you have to have civic springs.

[L3G10N]

This is how low i was on the stock 13".


As for now, here's how it look with NOTHING in the car.



I ask for the rear wide body to be able to get the 18"x7.5" into the fender. So, give me yours impression about putting the 96-00 onto this car.....

[Legend_master]

This is how low i was on the stock 13".

As for now, here's how it look with NOTHING in the car.


I ask for the rear wide body to be able to get the 18"x7.5" into the fender. So, give me yours impression about putting the 96-00 onto this car.....

I would not do it untill we figure out a succesfull way to raise them up a little. The ground will be eating that bodykit up if you roll with your car as low as the 96-00 civic struts will lower it.

[L3G10N]

well ok, i'll trust you.

Anyway our big problem still the front and not the rear.

Tnx a lot for your time buddy! It's REALLY appreciated!

[Legend_master]

well ok, i'll trust you.
Anyway our big problem still the front and not the rear.
Tnx a lot for your time buddy! It's REALLY appreciated!

No problem, I cant wait to see that car finished. It is going to look magnificent. With the front I would lower the strut as far as safely possible and use the coil overs to adjust the height. This will extend the life of the strut a lot longer. If I cant figure out anything for the rear, I might just get re valved bilsteins (but I dont want to pay all that money). Good luck and let me know if you need anymore help.

[L3G10N]

but exactly, what's the real trouble with the rear? the shock are too short and need to be longer? i feel the same for beilstein

[Legend_master]

but exactly, what's the real trouble with the rear? the shock are too short and need to be longer? i feel the same for beilstein

The bilsteins for our cars are the perfect height (jsut not stiff enough), they would require no modding to make them fit. The civic struts just are not good unless you want to slam your car or you mod them. You will hit the ground everytime the car goes over a bump with that kit.

[L3G10N]

yeah i already knew about both info, beilstein a long time ago and civic shock, you just told me.

But my question was, what is wrong about the rear civic shock? Are they too short? You were talking about extending the head of the shock...

[Legend_master]

yeah i already knew about both info, beilstein a long time ago and civic shock, you just told me.
But my question was, what is wrong about the rear civic shock? Are they too short? You were talking about extending the head of the shock...

Well the best way to explain is with a picture, LOL. Get three top hats (The red thing in my picture) and place two more on top of it. I would have to remove the bolts of the two that I place on there and I might have to get longer bolts for the one that bolts to the car. It is going to take some R&D, but I will make it work.

[Zufer]

ya the shock is short... but if you are gonna run that low i honestly think you will be good with the civic shocks https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48923
you can see there how low i am and they are perfect for me

[L3G10N]

well i'll try to help too. I've asked on the Quebec Civic Club if some have shock to give. Next i'll go to the junkyard and get some hat and try it too.

btw, this is the sickess draw i've ever saw!!! lololol

[Zufer]

ya the shock is short... but if you are gonna run that low i honestly think you will be good with the civic shocks https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48923
you can see there how low i am and they are perfect for me

[Legend_master]

ya the shock is short... but if you are gonna run that low i honestly think you will be good with the civic shocks https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48923
you can see there how low i am and they are perfect for me

So what springs are you running with that setup, Ground Control if I remember right. What car are they for civic or accord, and I thought they dropped the car much more then that.

well i'll try to help too. I've asked on the Quebec Civic Club if some have shock to give. Next i'll go to the junkyard and get some hat and try it too.

btw, this is the sickess draw i've ever saw!!! lololol

Thanks that will help alot, and make sure to get the top hat for an accord and not a civic. I drew the picture so well I thought it was real .

[Zufer]

i am running egay knock off ground controls with 8" spring i think they were for an accord and i could maybe go an inch higher if i wanted... and as low as i wanted.

[Legend_master]

i am running egay knock off ground controls with 8" spring i think they were for an accord and i could maybe go an inch higher if i wanted... and as low as i wanted.

if you are running 96-00 civic struts and what you say is true, I dont see there being any problem with running those struts. That is a decent height and you have room to raise them. I think I will buy a set of illuminas when I do my rear suspension.

[Zufer]

when i jack the rear of my car up the wheels only droop to maybe a 3 inch fender gap... but ya i think tehy are great... but you definitely can't run near stock height

and on a side note i am hoping to work out a set of full body coilovers... i have exchanged a couple emails with a company and it is looking like it could work... not for sure yet though.

[L3G10N]

Zufer: damn this height is almost perfect. a bit too much gap :p but hey, if it how it will look, i buy it! Tell me exactly what you are running please. Your setup is with the coil-over but without any dropping on it?

legend_master, yeah sure, i'll get the civic one! lol. I knew you were talking about the Accord one

[Zufer]

i just have a generic coil over on the ek strut... and the acord top hat... all bolts in. and you cna lower it more... i just haven't

[bobafett]

the solution that i am considering if/when i get coilovers from a civic is to build a spacer basically. you wouldnt mod the shock at all, but you could effectively modify the upper mount point, by stacking tophats downward or something along those lines.

they make a part like this for lowered miatas to retain shock travel, we need to build the same thing, only like 2" tall.

http://flyinmiata.com/index.php?dept...7100%20%2010MM

EDIT: lol this thread has been posted on a lot since i opened it, legend master already put in pics of the tophat stacking plan. hehe

[Legend_master]

the solution that i am considering if/when i get coilovers from a civic is to build a spacer basically. you wouldnt mod the shock at all, but you could effectively modify the upper mount point, by stacking tophats downward or something along those lines.

they make a part like this for lowered miatas to retain shock travel, we need to build the same thing, only like 2" tall.

http://flyinmiata.com/index.php?dept...7100%20%2010MM

Yes, that is exactly what I have been talking about.

[L3G10N]

i just have a generic coil over on the ek strut... and the acord top hat... all bolts in. and you cna lower it more... i just haven't

so you just took the generic 90-97 Accord ground-control coil over that we can easily see on ebay. right?

[ICEMAN707]

Here's a helpful thread for you guys: http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread/469485