How to buy revalved Bilstein sturts for your 3g

[Jims 86LXI HB]

Ok, first thing I now need to clear up, come about because Bilstein is now offering another strut system for the 3rd gen accord. They are offering "Touring class" struts for our cars. DO NOT buy them for revalving or to use on a lowered car. Only use the H.D's for revalving. Don't us the H.D.'s either, unless you have them revalved.

Here are the steps.

1. If you purchase the struts from www.shox.com , ask to speak to Darrell. Tell him you want Bilstein H.D. struts for the 86-89 accord part numbers are B36-1135, B36-1136, and for the rears you'll need 2 B36-1089. Tell Darrell that you want them revalved by Bilstiein and that you have the specs that Jack French at Bilstein needs. Use 300 for compression and 100 for rebound.

(*I spoke to Jack today and asked him what specs he would recommend for someone that wanted the struts a smidge tighter than the above specs provide. His answer was to go up about 10% or 330 compression and 110 on rebound, that's what I'd use for springs over 340lbs.)

If for some reason anyone want's to talk to Jack French at Bilstein he can be reached at 1-800-537-1085

Price will be the cost of the struts, still $370 I believe, plus I'm sure the shipping to Bilstein(maybe not if not sure), the revalve fee is $65 per strut and then you will have return shipping charges from Bilstein to you.

If anyone already has the struts or if they buy them off say eshocks.com you can send them to Bilstein yourself and your revalve fee is a little less at $55 per strut. Send them to:
Krupp Bilstein of America
14102 Stowe Dr.
Poway, Ca 92064
Attn: Jack French
They will only work of your struts if you pay the revalve fee in advance or use a credit card.

[doug]

thanks for the info, Jim.

[Jims 86LXI HB]

Your welcome Doug

If anyone want's to do revalved Koni's instead, first run a search.
"revalved Koni's (or Koni). Doing so will bring up previous posts on the subject.

[Hash_man_Se_i]

Thanks. I was wondering about this myself. But what do I do when sending myself? Do I just call first? and then send them with a letter or something explaining what I want?

Thanks for the info

[SteveDX89]

Are you saying it costs more per strut to revalve them if they've never been shipped out and less if you send them back?

[Sean]

out of curiosity wouldnt it make more sense to buy the struts directly from billstiens revavled or valved the way we want them ? seems silly to spend all that money on revavling brand new struts that could be ordere that way. i geuss ill have to talk to this jim french fellow. if i can get them that way how many set do you think i should stock ?

[goldyaccord]

I'm not sure if it's a good idea to stock them sean. Mainly becuase what if they need them revavled to different specs?

Ex, I get springs of a 500 front, 400 rear. I then have to order the struts to match. Some other guy may just get the stock rates from say, Ground control. Some other guy may use Sprint springs.

another one would use Dropzone's... all different spring rates.


Maybe what you could do if it's possible, is to have revalved struts set at 550, 400 rear having more than enuf for some members couldn't hurt right?

[Sean]

ill check into it. i just became a turbonetics dealer. ill see about billstien.

[zerotap]

I gots a question. I can get OEM strust for my 3rd generation accord but I am new to this stuff so I am wondering what is the difference in performance with OEM struts and lets say revalved struts to fit my car.

Ok, first thing I now need to clear up, come about because Bilstein is now offering another strut system for the 3rd gen accord. They are offering "Touring class" struts for our cars. DO NOT buy them for revalving or to use on a lowered car. Only use the H.D's for revalving. Don't us the H.D.'s either, unless you have them revalved.

Here are the steps.

1. If you purchase the struts from www.shox.com , ask to speak to Darrell. Tell him you want Bilstein H.D. struts for the 86-89 accord part numbers are B36-1135, B36-1136, and for the rears you'll need 2 B36-1089. Tell Darrell that you want them revalved by Bilstiein and that you have the specs that Jack French at Bilstein needs. Use 300 for compression and 100 for rebound.

(*I spoke to Jack today and asked him what specs he would recommend for someone that wanted the struts a smidge tighter than the above specs provide. His answer was to go up about 10% or 330 compression and 110 on rebound, that's what I'd use for springs over 340lbs.)

If for some reason anyone want's to talk to Jack French at Bilstein he can be reached at 1-800-537-1085

Price will be the cost of the struts, still $370 I believe, plus I'm sure the shipping to Bilstein(maybe not if not sure), the revalve fee is $65 per strut and then you will have return shipping charges from Bilstein to you.

If anyone already has the struts or if they buy them off say eshocks.com you can send them to Bilstein yourself and your revalve fee is a little less at $55 per strut. Send them to:
Krupp Bilstein of America
14102 Stowe Dr.
Poway, Ca 92064
Attn: Jack French
They will only work of your struts if you pay the revalve fee in advance or use a credit card.

[SteveDX89]

You want to use revalved struts when you lower your car. Lowering springs are stiffer than the stock springs. If you don't have struts that can take the abuse, i.e. stock struts, your ride will be bouncy. Your struts will also fail much quicker.

Also, an update on pricing. It seems that price for the revalve is $65 no matter what. That's what I was charged and I had the struts at home for a couple weeks and then sent them in.

[gekko]

1. If you purchase the struts from www.shox.com , ask to speak to Darrell. Tell him you want Bilstein H.D. struts for the 86-89 accord part numbers are B36-1135, B36-1136, and for the rears you'll need 2 B36-1089. Tell Darrell that you want them revalved by Bilstiein and that you have the specs that Jack French at Bilstein needs. Use 300 for compression and 100 for rebound.

(*I spoke to Jack today and asked him what specs he would recommend for someone that wanted the struts a smidge tighter than the above specs provide. His answer was to go up about 10% or 330 compression and 110 on rebound, that's what I'd use for springs over 340lbs.)

is this good specs for the H&R springs ?

[accelerator]

I'm still a little sketchy about the Bilstein revalve.... I have a set of the H.D. units with a Suspension Techniques 1.5" drop springs. They have been on the car for over 4 years. Do I still need to have the struts revalved? Will it make the ride harsher than it is now? The front is fine, but the rear seems over-stiff. I've seen this post for awhile, but I wanted to see if someone was going to ask my same question.

[racetek82]

anybody have an idea on the turn around time for getting the revalve done? thanx

[SteveDX89]

The revalve and shipping across the country took 3-4 weeks for mine.

[racetek82]

well i'm in calif. so wut about the actual time bilstein takes...minus all the shipping?

[SteveDX89]

Maybe a week or 2.

[jugglaccord17]

exactly how much are these revalved bilsteins? and what is a better cheaper strut that i can use with my new dropzone2.25 drops? where do i find info? am u screwed going the cheaper way?

[racetek82]

all the cost info is in the very first post of this thread, for all other info, please use the SEARCH button...and read through the sticky's. Takes only a few minutes and will give you all the info you need to lower your car correctly.

[P|eszczoH]

very interesting post about bilsteins, but i was making a little research and what can I say...
All 3G accord has the same rear shock absorber wich H. part number is :
52611-SE0-E11
but there are some differences in front shock absorb.
for all EX,DX,AERO EX,1600 LX or LX (carburator) it is :
51605-SE0-G05/G11 -right
51606-SE0-G05/G11 -left
for 2,0 i (injected engines) it is:
51605-SE0-G11/G33 right
51606-SE0-G11/G33 left
and for 20 i - 16 so B20 :-)) it is:
51605-SE0-G33 right
51606-SE0-G33 left

I wounder whats the difference in those original shocks :-))
any way have a nice day :-)))

[shepherd79]

the only diff in those struts is that they are designed for a little more weight. they are still not stiff enough to support the lowering springs or coilovers.

[SteveDX89]

exactly how much are these revalved bilsteins? and what is a better cheaper strut that i can use with my new dropzone2.25 drops? where do i find info? am u screwed going the cheaper way?

Do not use anything other than revalved Bilsteins for coilovers. Your ride will be mucho bouncy and you're struts will blow within months. Coilovers are just too stiff for oem replacement struts.

[standardryder435]

will the bilstiens revalved work good with arospeed coilovers?

[Bloodlust]

I recently bought bilstein rears cause I was planning on having them revalved. Im not sure if I bought the touring class ones, how can I tell if I got the right ones or not?

[epic1400cs]

very interesting post about bilsteins, but i was making a little research and what can I say...
All 3G accord has the same rear shock absorber wich H. part number is :
52611-SE0-E11
but there are some differences in front shock absorb.
for all EX,DX,AERO EX,1600 LX or LX (carburator) it is :
51605-SE0-G05/G11 -right
51606-SE0-G05/G11 -left
for 2,0 i (injected engines) it is:
51605-SE0-G11/G33 right
51606-SE0-G11/G33 left
and for 20 i - 16 so B20 :-)) it is:
51605-SE0-G33 right
51606-SE0-G33 left

I wounder whats the difference in those original shocks :-))
any way have a nice day :-)))

It is not info from Honda but I have a book about 3G Accord written by Japanese car critic published in 1986. He wrote that when the 3G are released, basic compliance of the suspension are the same among the series (sedan, hatch back, 1.8 or 2.0) due to the excellence of the double wish bone. Only the difference is that front damper from 2.0 Si (JDM model w B20 w injection. It is equivalent to 2.0i 16 in Europe) is gas damper. He did not write what kind of gas damper it is nor what type are the others but I think this is a bit believable tale.

About the part number, you might know about this but if I take 51605-SE0-G11/G33 for example, G11 is old part number and later honda changed the parts for improvement or whatever the reason and they changed to G33. So G11 and G33 are compatible but G33 must be good and new ones. I was told this from Honda Dealership mechanic in Tokyo so I am sure it is believable.

[bullard123]

Iwas thinking about getting the revalved bilsteins also. What valving should I use for Sprint 2.25'' lowering springs? I found this web site that sells them alreadly revalved. They are 170/60 valving and 255/70 valving. They have Bilstein 5125 series shocks, 5150 series Fix Reservoir and 7100 series shock. Which is better?? They also sell Comp/Mor, Edelbrock, Exp.Pro Comp, KYB, Rancho, and Tockio shocks/struts for our cars. I even seen a pair of drag racing shacks/struts for our cars.