Direct Ignition in the 'Skunk Works'

[smufguy]

okay cool, thanks for clearing that up.

[A20A1]

CD I
- Good High RPM
- Strong Spark / Short Durration
- Fast Recharge Time

ID I
- Good Low RMP
- Longer Spark Durration, Good for Lean Mixtures
- Slow Recharge Time

ID I + DIS = Long Spark Durration & Less Demand per Individual Coil giving better High RPM.

[Bglad420]

Any new word on this??? So from what I understand this is CURRENTLY NOT turbo compatable???

[turabaka]

yeah wow this is old. Although it seems like it could've been like something really cool for the carb'd guys that can't go obd-1.

[89T]

aems new toy! haha! and not a bad price.
http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/sale...n/Distributors

[2oodoor]

I totally never saw this before.

[Vanilla Sky]

Back in the time this thread was made, We had a grassroots guy here that was doing R&D for us. The biggest thing that he did was got lightweight flywheels for us for cheap.

What made people lose trust was the first time the second GE camgear thread started, he had gotten his hands on some camgears that were said to work on our engines. Turns out that they didn't, and he never really came back.

This direct ignition was one of his ideas as well.

[Oldblueaccord]

Yeah its a money ploy.


We really need new mods and some new people to start cleaning up this stuff but its a big job and no one is that interested.

I guess it cool it in the R+D section it does the least amount of harm here.




wp

[Vanilla Sky]

If I had a mill and a lathe, I'd be doing stuff like this. Not so much the ignition, but things like mounts.

If I had it to do all over again, I would have saved every dime I made when I lived at home and built up enough tools for a real shop. As it is, I'm still looking into it, but not for at least a year.

[2oodoor]

Yeah its a money ploy.


We really need new mods and some new people to start cleaning up this stuff but its a big job and no one is that interested.

I guess it cool it in the R+D section it does the least amount of harm here.




wp

I have seen a lot of what you are talking about, and concour.
It must be like cleaning out the kitchen drawer too, you never know what is usefull or valuable in someone else's perspective... although some of it will be obvious.
Vanilla, there is a lot of electronic hacking to be done as well, like modifying boards and making things work from other oem apps. I like your train of thought though.

[Vanilla Sky]

I've been doing that stuff for a while and I already have the capacity to make harnesses and such. It's the associated hard parts that have to be made that I'd have to be able to make in order to sell as a whole package.

[Oldblueaccord]

If I had a mill and a lathe, I'd be doing stuff like this. Not so much the ignition, but things like mounts.

If I had it to do all over again, I would have saved every dime I made when I lived at home and built up enough tools for a real shop. As it is, I'm still looking into it, but not for at least a year.

Do like me find a shop that does and work there that way you can use there stuff , and sometimes do it on the clock


The only thing that struck me as this might be legit is Mallory is in Carson City and they do do alot of custom stuff and let there Engineers use there head a little. Theres a guy Robmc that works for them and has done alot of nice stuff for Chryslers over the years.


wp

[Vanilla Sky]

I work a fulltime job that's not the least bit flexible on hours, and it's 11-8. Sucks balls to try to do anything else.

[cygnus x-1]

What this idea was missing was electronic adjustability of the timing. Why would you even bother if it still used the stock vacuum and mechanical advance? This is why I put together an EDIS crank fired setup when I switched over to Megasquirt. I have a fully tuneable timing map as well as a fuel map. There is also a standalone box for timing only control. Check it out:

http://www.autosportlabs.net/Main_Page
http://www.autosportlabs.com/

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[Chen]

i`m can make "wasted spark" ignition for you accords easy. you need only second igniter, and mitsubishi-style wasted spark coils and little ecu modification.
i`m can make ac-contol line for controlling second ignition coil.

[A20A1]

aems new toy! haha! and not a bad price.
http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/sale...n/Distributors

F22 AEM DISTRIBUTOR + 4G ADAPTER PLATE


hmmm

[AccordEpicenter]

F22 AEM DISTRIBUTOR + 4G ADAPTER PLATE


hmmm

The problem with our ignitions in these cars isnt nessescerily spark strength, its more spark accuracy and timing in general. The distributor isnt computer controlled so the timing curve is a ballpark at best. Better control over the ignition timing in particular is what we really need. Upgrading the spark strength alone will gain almost immesurable power and fuel economy gains, the real gains are from better control of the timing itself. There are LOTS of boosted hondas making 600+hp on the BONE STOCK IGNITION SYSTEM, but these are with obd1 and later ecus that have the timing control we dont have.

[2drSE-i]

F22 AEM DISTRIBUTOR + 4G ADAPTER PLATE


hmmm

With that EPM i dont even think you would need the adapter plate. The EPM is fully programmable, including firing order, so you can put the F22 one on there and then set it up to work with ours.

I THINK. This is just based on what i've read.

[Rendon LX-i]

thats why im getting the plate...and f22 dizzy....worthless stock dizzy not doing nothing. cant pull timing for shit