KABOOM
you need atleast a fuel pressure regulator, 450cc injectors, if you want to turbo a complety stock engine look at accordepicenters post with his set up
look at his threads here
KABOOM
you need atleast a fuel pressure regulator, 450cc injectors, if you want to turbo a complety stock engine look at accordepicenters post with his set up
look at his threads here
oh and dont forget that his car isnt a daily driver so dont go out and try his set up on your daily driver....
Your check engine light will come on, (map sensor), your engine will go lean and knock, your egt will go up to like 1600, and you will destroy your pistons.Originally Posted by Bglad420
...and you will feel Very, very stupid.
A speed density system that is set up for a normally aspirated car has no way of adding fuel under boost. It merely assumes there is an electrical problem with the map sensor, goes into limp mode, and meters fuel off the tps.
I don't know shit about selecting a turbo. All I know is that just about any holset turbo off a dodge cummins diesel would absolutely kick ass on a honda. Only recently did garrett copy their 'map width enhancement' slots into the compressor, holsets have the most modern designs and are ridiculously efficient over a very wide range of airflow and pressure ratios.a t25 works for dsm guys with a 2.0L revving to 6500-7000. i think that for people running less than 10psi, a t25 is an economical turbo to use, and will flow well up to 6000 on an a20 head.
do u really think that a GT28RS potato is too small? its the perfect 350-400whp turbo for 2.0L SR20 motors, so i figure it will be close to the same on our a20.
GT28RS Specs:
DUAL GT STEEL BALL BEARING CENTER SECTION
TURBINE SPECS: T25
.86 A/R HOUSING
76 TRIM 54mm GT SERIES WHEEL
COMPRESSOR SPECS: TO4b HOUSING
.60 A/R HOUSING
62 TRIM
COMPRESSOR FLOW: 35 LBS/MIN
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T3/T04E 57 Trim .60/.63
COMPRESSOR SPECS:
flow: 53 lbs/min 678cfm
.60 A/R HOUSING
60 TRIM WHEEL
TURBINE SPECS:
.63 A/R HOUSING
STAGE 3 WHEEL
oil lubricated centersection.
supportable of 500whp!
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what turbo do u suggest to perform reasonable in both 12psi street to 20psi track range? keeping in mind the motor will rev to 8000. too bad i didnt have the head flow benched to see what it could do.
im beginning to think more and more that my t3/t4 that i already own would be a good choice.
Thank you thats what I wanted...Can I turbo my A20 with out an ecu mod?? I really want to get this project rolling...I plan to build a new block and head, but I want to keep it reliable, and cruise at 6-8psi and hadle 12psi if I want to race or something. Will stock internals hold that like pistons, and rods and crank whats the weak link in our cars? What is recomended I do with the head should I just port and polish it? How indepth is the 4g dizzy swap, how hard is it, whats all really involved the treads I read were deadends, I want someone who has a turbo A20 to post and tell me what problems they ran into with their turbo projects and what I have to expect...Sorry if all this is repeat of others before me. Thanks for the help all!
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isnt justin86 making turbo kits, and obd1 kits?? try talking to him, hell help you out...
Accordepicenter, what did you do to your car before you turboed it, what problems did you run into with check engine light, or anything weird, I see you run a 3g dizzy, no OBD-1 conversion?? Post what your oppinion is on all this, cause your cars pretty fast, and Thats all I'm shooting for is low 14 high 13sec 1/4 times. Thanks
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his setup is well documented. just FREAKIN SEARCH
his fuel management is SAFC and i think BTM, and dsm 450cc's he made his own manifold and downpipe and charge pipes, and hes using a classic cca or johnny racecar fmic.
man just do a liiiitle bit of your own damn research, it will go a long ways.
http://www.sounddomain.com/ride/250993/4
http://www.sounddomain.com/ride/250993/5
Lol i think this is a better page. Anyway... yea I use a BTM and an SAFC and 450ccs and a walbro fuel pump, but as ive said before, the SAFC is just inadequate for over 10psi boost and ill go so far as to consider it halfass managemant for high boost, and you should never skimp on managemant. Ive run 13psi boost on a very very very conservative tune (read:Shitty) but next season im gonna run an obd1 conversion with a chipped P06 ecu. This is on a STOCK ENGINE too. Run crappy managemant or a crappy tune even on a BUILT engine and it simply wont last... there have been quite a few guys that have blown their engines going turbo because of it
429whp 362wtq A20 TURBO. A20T>*
AccordEpicenter, When you say stock engine, is it the same engine that was in the car, never pulled or rebuilt?? How many miles, Do you have more indepth threads on your set up? Thanks again
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Look up STOCK in the dictionary lol. Hmm... ill look for a better thread about it later
429whp 362wtq A20 TURBO. A20T>*
AccordEpicenter....I searched your threads looking for info but it came back sorta dry. What model number are your BTM and SAFC that you use?? I only want 10psi max really so I should be OK w/o an OBD conversion right?? I want to keep my car a daily driver will this turbo set-up spell disaster for that, or will I end up w/ a weekend warrior?? I can get my buddys old injectors from his DSM so I'm not worried about those, but what rate fuel pump do you use? What else do you recomend that I look into? What else do I need to make it all work ie:fuel & timimng management. I'm gonna try to pick some of this stuff up this month. Thanks again!
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In the link he gave you was another series of links to 4G applicable parts and how to go about installing them on the A20. Before you say "no help" look through the thread. If you did you would have seen the links.
https://www.3geez.com/showthread.php?t=37494&page=6
that thread will also help.
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