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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    yeah, I just spent almost the whole day working on the wiring. Maybe I'll post a couple pics of the finished harness and subharness tomorrow..



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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    so where do i get the motor mounts for the swap?

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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    Quote Originally Posted by Accordtheory
    well, all I got done was installing the knuckles/brakes and test fitting the driver's side teg axle, which was a couple inches too short..
    well scence the driverside was to short and the passenger side was to long is there no way of switching the two around a seeing if the fit like that

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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    Quote Originally Posted by Bac89LXI
    so where do i get the motor mounts for the swap?
    No where. You make them.
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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    Quote Originally Posted by ghettogeddy
    well scence the driverside was to short and the passenger side was to long is there no way of switching the two around a seeing if the fit like that
    yeah, I wish..both are 23.5"..

    so far my closest guess is an 89 teg p/s for the p/s, and an 87 prelude pass side with the integra end for the driver's side..23.1 and 24.6"
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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    Quote Originally Posted by ghettogeddy
    well scence the driverside was to short and the passenger side was to long is there no way of switching the two around a seeing if the fit like that

    nope both axles are almost identical in lenght, the passenger side is just a little bit shorter, but not enough.
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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    Wow, I am glad my swap did not turn out to be this painful. I feel so bad for you guys and your 3rd gen problems. I used integra axles and my engine sits low enough that I didn't have to cut my hood up. I guess I just got lucky on my swap. I say good luck to all of you with your swaps and if you need specific help with something you can always e-mail me.

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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    ..hey, do you think the prelude axle will fit into the integra hub? (on the end that fits into the tranny)?
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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    ...damn your prelude..lucky bastard

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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    well, I just test fitted a pass side axle from an 89 integra on my pass side, it seemed legit with about an inch of inward play, so I promptly returned it to kragen and bought one off ebay..saving myself about $80, since I don't have any cores..

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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    Quote Originally Posted by Accordtheory
    well, I just test fitted a pass side axle from an 89 integra on my pass side, it seemed legit with about an inch of inward play, so I promptly returned it to kragen and bought one off ebay..saving myself about $80, since I don't have any cores..

    That is damn good to know. Thanks for tring it, but did you get the pass side 86-89 or the drivers side?
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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    passenger side, they're both listed as the same length, 23.1", but like the newer integra, I think the driver's side has splines the whole way down the end that goes into the intermediate shaft, so it wouldn't be right for the tranny connection..

    I'm still trying to figure out wtf to do with the driver's side. I would have bought an 87 prelude pass side, but they don't have any on ebay right now..and I still can't find my old integra end that fits into the intermediate shaft, I must have thrown it away..ugh..
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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    Yeah the left side axle has splines all the way through. Sucks

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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    Quote Originally Posted by SQ is the SQUAD
    i still got the 90 teg, i am going to be junking it soon. its a 4dr rs if anyone needs any parts. i took basically everythnig swap related.

    i was also considering cutting the mount brackets out of that frame from my accord.

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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    Quote Originally Posted by Accordtheory
    ..hey, do you think the prelude axle will fit into the integra hub? (on the end that fits into the tranny)?

    No I had to get 3rd gen Accord hubs to fit the Integra axles in. My problem now is my shift linkage. Its not long enough. The Stablizer bar is too short on my lude and so I cannot shift right. I will keep you guys updated.

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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    Quote Originally Posted by masterkillalw
    No I had to get 3rd gen Accord hubs to fit the Integra axles in. My problem now is my shift linkage. Its not long enough. The Stablizer bar is too short on my lude and so I cannot shift right. I will keep you guys updated.

    are the accord and prelude shift linkage the same size, if not then you might try the accord one to see if it works.
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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    Well, I finally started the car today. It runs like shit, hopefully due to not having an exhaust or intake, not because of all my mismatched sensors.. Here is a pic of the mostly finished harness. Rywire can officially take my $300 and shove it. I made the harness, not them. After undoing all their half assed work and making the harness actually function and look somewhat acceptable, I probably have about 15 hours in this thing. In addition to my previously aired complaints, the harness had no TA connection or coolant temp. Wrong wires going to both. Legend master, look at where my foot is, that is the plug that the extension harness connects to, before going through the firewall.

    Some things to observe: The "T" that contains the pcs, iac, tps, and map connections, and the length of all the wires in general..you want an example of the job rywire did, look at the vtec connections, they're the only wires they did that I haven't altered yet. Which ones are the vtec connections? I bet you can guess..The only wires that are Way too long, coming out by the o2/reverse switch/TW connections.
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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    Quote Originally Posted by Accordtheory
    Well, I finally started the car today. It runs like shit, hopefully due to not having an exhaust or intake, not because of all my mismatched sensors.. Here is a pic of the mostly finished harness. Rywire can officially take my $300 and shove it. I made the harness, not them. After undoing all their half assed work and making the harness actually function and look somewhat acceptable, I probably have about 15 hours in this thing. In addition to my previously aired complaints, the harness had no TA connection or coolant temp. Wrong wires going to both. Legend master, look at where my foot is, that is the plug that the extension harness connects to, before going through the firewall.
    Did you put that extention harness on there or did rywire. Mine look completely different then yours.

    EDit: Good job on getting it going, mine ran liek shit when I first started it also. You just have to get the kinks worked out.
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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    wow.why not just use the engine harness? Thats what that looks like to me mainly. Execpt some other things. But. I am using all the harnesses and fuse boxes from the Integra. Just keeping my lights and what not on my stock fuse box and using the others for the engine and gauges.

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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    Quote Originally Posted by Legend_master
    are the accord and prelude shift linkage the same size, if not then you might try the accord one to see if it works.

    Already working on fixing that problem. Just gonna extend the stablizer bar and the shift linkage. Just got to get everything welded.

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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    Quote Originally Posted by masterkillalw
    No I had to get 3rd gen Accord hubs to fit the Integra axles in. My problem now is my shift linkage. Its not long enough. The Stablizer bar is too short on my lude and so I cannot shift right. I will keep you guys updated.
    I don't think you understood my question, I guess I wasn't clear enough..what I meant was do you think I can put the end of the integra axle onto the prelude axle so I can fit the prelude axle into the teg intermediate shaft? The spline counts are the same, so I hope I can..I also hope the prelude axle is long enough..

    As far as your shift linkage, time to bring out the welder..you know I had to..

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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    Quote Originally Posted by Legend_master
    Did you put that extention harness on there or did rywire. Mine look completely different then yours.
    I did! I made the entire harness! Rywire can juggle deez

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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    Quote Originally Posted by Accordtheory
    I did! I made the entire harness! Rywire can juggle deez

    LOL, good job dude. I am working with rywire right now to create an OBD-1 convertion for the a20. They dident do me wrong so I got nothing against them. I wish I had all the stuff to do a custom motor swap, I would drop a c27 into the 3g.
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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    Quote Originally Posted by Accordtheory
    I don't think you understood my question, I guess I wasn't clear enough..what I meant was do you think I can put the end of the integra axle onto the prelude axle so I can fit the prelude axle into the teg intermediate shaft? The spline counts are the same, so I hope I can..I also hope the prelude axle is long enough..
    As far as your shift linkage, time to bring out the welder..you know I had to..

    If I remember correctly, the prelude axles are smaller in diameter. Which means the integra axles and prelude axles aren't compatiable.

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    Re: How to swap in a b series without a kit..pics inside

    not according to napaonline..27/26 splines, with the same thread size as the 3g/integra..

    damn, I was hoping someone would solve this for me, but it looks like I'll be spending some time at a junkyard, trying to mix and match axle components..

    edit: I might have actually found someone who can assemble an axle for me using all factory parts, with no core charge..

    ..as lil jon would say, Yeaayuhh!!

    we'll see though..
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