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    B16A Engine Swap

    Just wondering, who has done a B16A Swap? and what do you need to swap one in? i couldn't find much info on B16s in the forum. i just saw THIS and thought it was bad ass especially if i could stick it in my car.



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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    i think steve89dx has the b16 in his car. and other fellows have a b18 or b20. the board really is awash with information on this topic. and the thread entitled "how to swap in a b-series engine without a kit" would be a good place for you to stay for a few days.

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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    so would swapping in a b16 be generally the same as a b18 or b20?

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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    Please search the board again. Everything you asked in this thread has been covered numerous times. I have a B16 in my car that I bought it from that same website you posted. I don't recommend buying an engine from them. I've had nothing but problems with mine ever since I got it. I just may have finally got it fixed but I'm still not even sure yet and it's been 2 years. Please do some more searching and come back with some of the more technical questions. Also, check out the thread that snoopy mentioned.
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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    steve, what's your top speed and whatnot for the b16, i read that the original sir that it was put in topped at 150, and did 0-60 shy of 6. but anyway, if i have the resources to make custom mounts, and have access to plasma cutter and all the other welders and stuff what would i need to do? i looked on that how to swap in a bseries w/o a kit and i didn't really find info on like half-shafts, and shift linkage. i dunno, if people could give me either info or links to other threads that'd be sweet!

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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    Quote Originally Posted by sinisterfuzzy
    steve, what's your top speed and whatnot for the b16, i read that the original sir that it was put in topped at 150, and did 0-60 shy of 6. but anyway, if i have the resources to make custom mounts, and have access to plasma cutter and all the other welders and stuff what would i need to do? i looked on that how to swap in a bseries w/o a kit and i didn't really find info on like half-shafts, and shift linkage. i dunno, if people could give me either info or links to other threads that'd be sweet!

    thats weird, when i read that thread it said all that. look up other threads with b engine swaps too, also why do want to know the top speed, youll never be able to reach those speeds unless its out in a big track or something
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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    Quote Originally Posted by sinisterfuzzy
    steve, what's your top speed and whatnot for the b16, i read that the original sir that it was put in topped at 150, and did 0-60 shy of 6.
    top speed in the donor car doesn't mean it'll be the top speed in your 3g. you can probably expect somewhere around that range. it'll be over 100 for sure. i hit 100+ with stock engine and no mods.
    but anyway, if i have the resources to make custom mounts, and have access to plasma cutter and all the other welders and stuff what would i need to do?
    read the thread. but basically, you need to fabricate mounts somehow or you can buy hasport mounts and hack them up.
    i looked on that how to swap in a bseries w/o a kit and i didn't really find info on like half-shafts, and shift linkage. i dunno, if people could give me either info or links to other threads that'd be sweet!
    it's there too. and try the search button. it'll help you tremendously.

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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    The Idea of a 1.6 in a 3g strikes me as... Dee-de-deee!

    An engine that small in a car that heavy is a bad idea. You want the block 6to be a 1.8 minimum. There are so many better ideas. H-series, F-series, GS-R, Type-R, LS/Vtec, CR/Vtec, the list goes on and on.
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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    Quote Originally Posted by voiceinurhead05
    The Idea of a 1.6 in a 3g strikes me as... Dee-de-deee!
    An engine that small in a car that heavy is a bad idea. You want the block 6to be a 1.8 minimum. There are so many better ideas. H-series, F-series, GS-R, Type-R, LS/Vtec, CR/Vtec, the list goes on and on.
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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    Yeah, our cars really aren't that heavy compared to newer ones with 1.6s

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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    Quote Originally Posted by gfrg88
    thats weird, when i read that thread it said all that. look up other threads with b engine swaps too, also why do want to know the top speed, youll never be able to reach those speeds unless its out in a big track or something
    idk, i guess i'd like to be able to tell my friends i could do 140 with a 4-cyl, a lot of my friends are haters when it comes to imports of the east...

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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    140 is not hard when you get to any engine even a little stronger than an A20. I've heard of people on the board getting up to 130 in LX-is with bolt-ons.

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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    Quote Originally Posted by speedpenguin
    140 is not hard when you get to any engine even a little stronger than an A20. I've heard of people on the board getting up to 130 in LX-is with bolt-ons.
    yeah i didn't think it'd be tough though i'm running an LX lol... And really i don't care so much about top speed im not sure why i posted it but yeah, i like quickness more as probly everyone does.

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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    Quote Originally Posted by sinisterfuzzy
    yeah i didn't think it'd be tough though i'm running an LX lol... And really i don't care so much about top speed im not sure why i posted it but yeah, i like quickness more as probly everyone does.
    due seriously i think its better to stick with the a20. just think of when you beat people in your car and they ask you what type of engine you or something like that, then you can proudly say its an old SOHC A20 , and with the money your going to be putting into swapping another engien you can make your car a lot faster than the one you swapping
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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    I hit 135 In my old A18A1.

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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    130 in my stock LX
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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    i don't think the engine is the complete limiting factor here. our cars have a 0.32 cd, but they're not the most aerodynamic ones out there. seems like about 140 is the bodily limit of our cars. although you might be able to push it a little farther with another gear in the tranny.

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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    jons car got to around 130ish in 4th gear
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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    You'd be surprised how aerodynamic our cars are.... with the headlights down anyway.
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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    heh. that could be my problem. my left headlight can't be physically retracted at the moment so i leave them up. i bet that's why my gas mileage hasn't improved either.

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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    Seriously though, Torque is a major issue with the B16. IT's an excellent engine for a CR-X, or civic hatch. I think it's a bit under powered for the 6G Civic coupe, though. There is a HUGE weight advantage to dumping the iron block for an aluminum model, though. To the point that we will beable to install an H23A1 and auto transmission in my Dad's '83 Civic wagon (currently manual), and still come out the same overall front end mass as with the original iron engine. I'm still thinking that the B20A is by far the best engine setup for the 3G Accord. Easiest install, lots of torque, and great power for far less money than a B16/B18C/LS-VTEC.
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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    i still think the a20 is best, just needs the head to be worked on and a good engine management, oh and BOOST
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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    b20a would be better than a20 if it had been available stateside or at least had a better aftermarket. or even a market to begin with. but since you have to order out to japan everytime something breaks, the a20 will have to suffice for must of us.

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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    Not to mention that I can't seem to find one with a manual tranny anywhere

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    Re: B16A Engine Swap

    as far as i can see, you have LX which is carbed.
    so you will have to convert to EFI first, after that you will have to get custom engine mounts, find proper axels ( i think some people found them, just read a lot and search) and hack the shifter linkage. oh and lets not forget the wirring.
    expect to spend a lot of money. Or convert to EFIm do OBD-1 conversion and put turbo on A20 engine.
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