Turbo Manifold by : F22PARTS.COM

[A20A1]

Aie! What a nightmare.

Found one:
http://www.jgstools.com/turbo/tk030p.jpg

[AccordEpicenter]

a tubular or ramhorn type will decrease spool time and lag compared to a log due to the efficiency of flow and increased velocities inside the runners, plus with a more efficient manifold then you have better chances of preventing exhaust gas reversion back into the ports and back into the cylinders

[F22Partscom]

Yes,
Have any pics of your car? I will try.

http://www.f22parts.com/projectf22.htm

Thanks. dave

[F22Partscom]

dude....youre so fucking awesome! that looks cool man!.....where is the f22parts guy at? i want to hear what he has to say about these drafts man....awesome!

I am here reading and looking. You al are doing a Superb job keep up the good work until the finally blueprints are signed off on.

dave
Great Work again!!!

[bobafett]

I don't recall reading any estimated prices yet in this thread.

Dave, do you have an idea of what a log or a ramhorn/tubular style manifold might cost us? also, do we need to choose a specific type of turbo flange to use, or would these be built to order, and allow us to choose our flange type?

[Legend_master]

I don't recall reading any estimated prices yet in this thread.

Dave, do you have an idea of what a log or a ramhorn/tubular style manifold might cost us? also, do we need to choose a specific type of turbo flange to use, or would these be built to order, and allow us to choose our flange type?

from what I understand in this thread, they should be the same price as the ones already on his site. Here you go

[ZackieDarko]

i thought i heard 400 ish on the 1st or 2nd page

[F22Partscom]

I don't recall reading any estimated prices yet in this thread.

Dave, do you have an idea of what a log or a ramhorn/tubular style manifold might cost us? also, do we need to choose a specific type of turbo flange to use, or would these be built to order, and allow us to choose our flange type?

Hey they would be built to order letting you pick.

[F22Partscom]

from what I understand in this thread, they should be the same price as the ones already on his site. Here you go

Correct, from what I see so far.

[snoopyloopy]

well if the manifolds are being built to order based on what you have on your site already available for the f22, do we actually need to design a manifold (besides the clearance on a ramhorn) or can we just order now? or do you still need that a20 flange?

[bobafett]

i would seriously hope that we are getting CNC'ed flanges so i would hope that even if we give him a flange it wouldnt help all that much.

not sure how that works in the manifold making business, and whether or not people share cad files for their flanges, but i know that sam at bmc has a20 flanges if you need to get a cad file from him, or if you just need to order the flanges directly from him.

[A20A1]

I'd rather see a flange that makes it easier to merge our ovals to a circular pipe... so on the head side of the flange it's oval and on the turbo side it transistions to round. Not matching the diameters BTW, the flange port will be smaller to offer some resistance to opposing flow.

[bobafett]

hmm i bet it would be easy to build a flange like that in a cad program. i wonder if it could be done with a 1/2" thickness. ;-)

www.emachineshop.com comes to mind. i downloaded their software, but i am very rusty on how to use CAD/3D modeling software. the cool thing is we could get a quote for the flange directly from the software, depending on material!

[F22Partscom]

well if the manifolds are being built to order based on what you have on your site already available for the f22, do we actually need to design a manifold (besides the clearance on a ramhorn) or can we just order now? or do you still need that a20 flange?

We sure could us our design and locations with an A20 flange on it. Simply change here, unlike making a custom thin tubular design. We do not need a flange, thank you tho. At this time our flanges are hand made, we are still working on our CNC machine.

Everyone still wants something different tho... I still have some manifold on backorder from 2 months ago. So getting started now will bring them that much closer to having some available.

[A20A1]

Thanks to a room under a house I now have cad.

...whats this button do?

[bobafett]

i held up my turbo with the stock radiator (with AC fan) and i couldnt even get the turbo inbetween the head and the radiator fan. I think even without the fan there is NO clearance for the manifold at all.

so for my setup I am definetly going to be running a civic half size radiator, which should afford me a lot more clearance. I will see if i can get 3d studio max or some other modeling program installed, and build up a couple different manifold designs.

can some people send me drawings for the flanges so i can get that part built up properly? or at least specs on the sizes of it all, so i can rebuilt it....

email is [email protected]

[A20A1]

Damn, Cad seems a bit much for me. I only took a week class so not much for me to work with. I'm hopeful though. What is confusing at the moment is which format to build it in. There are different formats...

I think the version I have has 3D view to it... so at least there is that much.

I liked Ray Dream Design that came out 10 years ago or so... by Fractal Design that makes Painter and Expressions, I don't know if the company was bought out or dissapeared haven't seen anything from them on shelves in comp usa.

[EricW]

Maybe if someone designed a set of brackets to mount the civic half size radiator they(f22parts.com) would be interested in selling those also. This would allow us to have a less compact manifold design and a little more space to work.

[bobafett]

yeah i think the brackets would be pretty darn simple, but they may depend on if you are using a stock style radiator, or a super thick one.

maybe a set of 2 peice top brackets that are slotted, to allow the installer flexability in how far the radiator is spaced back from the original spot.

honestly it looks like an easy enough install to just sell a certain 'badass' manifold with a (MUST USE CIVIC HALF RADIATOR) disclaimer. although I really think there should be an ultimate manifold that takes advantage of all the space, with a car missing PS, AC, radiator. this would be the most open design, and wouldnt need to cut as many corners for the purpose of keeping stock accessories (stuff that many of us have removed)

turns out i am reaaly really bad at 3d modeling (hadn't touched it for like 6 years, so i forgot it all) so i am having a hell of a time building a manifold in Inivis AC3D (a shareware app)

[A20A1]

You can also get maya but it has a watermark on everything you render.

[bobafett]

my roomate has legit copy of the newest maya. $$$$$$$$$ maybe i can use his computer and try to crank something out!

[stat1K]

You can also get maya but it has a watermark on everything you render.

you can get maya without the watermark... but that's illegal

[snoopyloopy]

We sure could us our design and locations with an A20 flange on it. Simply change here, unlike making a custom thin tubular design. We do not need a flange, thank you tho. At this time our flanges are hand made, we are still working on our CNC machine.
Everyone still wants something different tho... I still have some manifold on backorder from 2 months ago. So getting started now will bring them that much closer to having some available.

so then basically, we could order now and you'd make it based off of designs you already have and just stick an a20 flange on instead?

[F22Partscom]

Maybe if someone designed a set of brackets to mount the civic half size radiator they(f22parts.com) would be interested in selling those also. This would allow us to have a less compact manifold design and a little more space to work.

Hello again, We just finsihed pooring concrete in out current shop. Tomorrow we are moving some of the machines in. I have been busy with that stuff. Yes, we would love to make anything you guys mite need.

dave

[F22Partscom]

so then basically, we could order now and you'd make it based off of designs you already have and just stick an a20 flange on instead?

Yes I really think this would be the best idea. Consider the first as a test model to work from and change up. Yes the first one mite not allow perfectly for fans,a/c or p/s but it a Start... Maybe the first one would be for someone making a drag car not with all the s/c and p/s ect. But either way it a start some far it’s come to a stand still.

I know AutoCAD and various other CNC drawing programs, they are all very hard and take year to draw even at the beginners level, like my self. Here is what I just drew.