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    Re: help i gots $ money just no parts

    I can hook you up with the trunk lid, and just about any other part you need man. Good luck with that bild it sounds like its gonna be a hog



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    Quote Originally Posted by accord upset
    ok got the flywheel back they said they couldnt take it down any lower than 14 safely so my flywheel is at 14 lbs now and im very please with there work and how fast they got it done. the carb mounting plate just got here today. the clutch guys told me just to send the wrong one back and they'll send the right one. the head should be back tomarrow so im gonna start putting things back together tomarrow. oh and ex-ile if you would have told me that befor i got my car painted we kould have roasted marshmellows around it.
    sorry i dont want to search but how much does a stock flywheel weigh? and how much did it cost you to shave it down.....i heard that the car reves up faster.

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    Re: help i gots $ money just no parts

    22 pounds but when u shave the flywheel u loos surface area for the clutch to grap its smarter to buy and actuall aluminum flywheel then to have the stock one reduced

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    MessyHonda88dx there is no loss of friction surface the weight is shaved off of the back side of the flywheel. stock flywheel is about 22 pounds give or take a lil for resurfacing and he could not shave it lower than 14 lbs and it cost me 118 to get it done and took him less than a week to get it done.
    i had mine lightend, resurfaced and balenced.

    oh my cardomain will feature the build on it with plentiful pics, but you'll have to wait till i get it back together to see em i'll update it with the pics after its all over so i dont have to do it a billion times
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    Re: help i gots $ money just no parts

    see theres the bit of info i dident know so they take it from the back side not the front were they would turn the rotor, so i woulnder why they make them so hevey in the first place u would think they would want to save money so the lighter the better

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    Re: help i gots $ money just no parts

    Quote Originally Posted by ghettogeddy
    see theres the bit of info i dident know so they take it from the back side not the front were they would turn the rotor, so i woulnder why they make them so hevey in the first place u would think they would want to save money so the lighter the better

    Honestly its probably because they didnt build these motors for high end performance. A heavier clutch makes more TQ and less HP, since these cars were "heavy" for a Honda in the 80's they had to make a little bit more TQ and not so much HP. My flywheel was done the exact same way and I have had no problems after 6K miles.
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    This is what gives us Honda drivers a bad name these stupid graphics. Don't take offense to this comment I am just saying. but all in all the car looks real good and sounds like you are really taking care of it. I really love those z3's how much did those run you? Again please don't take offense to this comment. Oh and the wing has to go. :p

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    Damn D-series propaganda. And BT stands for Better Torque, thats something you D-series guys wouldn't understand.

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    Re: help i gots $ money just no parts

    everone is intitled to there own opinion if you dont like it say so im not going to come to your house and kill anyone... lol

    z-3 are fiberglass from fatboy motorsports in cali and ran bout 150-175 i think

    hey does anyone have the part number for the manifold adapter plate for a 38 weber for an 86 honda accord. they sent me 99004.126 and it doesnt match up.
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    Re: help i gots $ money just no parts

    the guy at www.honda-performance.com said he'd make stuff for our cars.

    and i had a lil question, since we're talkin' about beefing up carb's (finally) someone shoot me a ballpark estimate of what this build up would do.

    Weber 38
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    Shot Peened Rods
    Racing Springs and Retainers
    Some good Headwork (3 angle valve job, etc.)
    Oversized Valves
    Lightened Flywheel
    MAYBE a shot of Nitrous...

    any ideas of what that would do 1/4 mile or 0-60?
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    Re: help i gots $ money just no parts

    Quote Originally Posted by sinisterfuzzy
    the guy at www.honda-performance.com said he'd make stuff for our cars.

    and i had a lil question, since we're talkin' about beefing up carb's (finally) someone shoot me a ballpark estimate of what this build up would do.

    Weber 38
    Colt Tri-Flow
    Cam Gear
    Pacesetter Header
    3" Exhaust Back to Magnaflow Muffler
    Shot Peened Rods
    Racing Springs and Retainers
    Some good Headwork (3 angle valve job, etc.)
    Oversized Valves
    Lightened Flywheel
    MAYBE a shot of Nitrous...

    any ideas of what that would do 1/4 mile or 0-60?
    3 inch exaust is prolly to big

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    Re: help i gots $ money just no parts

    Quote Originally Posted by ghettogeddy
    3 inch exaust is prolly to big
    alright then, with w/e for exhaust what would the performance be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinisterfuzzy
    alright then, with w/e for exhaust what would the performance be?
    it all depends on who you knoe....and what you knoe so you can put the stuff back together or you have to let a shop do all the work....im a cheap guy so i would just get some A20a3 pistons and a cam and stick it in the A20a1 that you have...they have a higher compression so you will go from 9.1 to 9.3....might rethink the exhuast maybe 2.25... you can save some serious money plus you wont be dissapointed if they are not the numbers you expected....its a 18+ year old car but just a rebuild of the engine will be better....just my .02 cents

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    Re: help i gots $ money just no parts

    Quote Originally Posted by MessyHonda88dx
    it all depends on who you knoe....and what you knoe so you can put the stuff back together or you have to let a shop do all the work....im a cheap guy so i would just get some A20a3 pistons and a cam and stick it in the A20a1 that you have...they have a higher compression so you will go from 9.1 to 9.3....might rethink the exhuast maybe 2.25... you can save some serious money plus you wont be dissapointed if they are not the numbers you expected....its a 18+ year old car but just a rebuild of the engine will be better....just my .02 cents

    alright, with my build up and 2.25" exhaust what is a guess of what this would do in the 1/4 or 0-60

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    Re: help i gots $ money just no parts

    16.0

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    ouch i hope it'll pull better than that
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    Re: help i gots $ money just no parts

    i want parts but have no money...

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    Re: help i gots $ money just no parts

    Quote Originally Posted by bobafett
    16.0

    i was kinda hoping i could hit like 15's solid.

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    did anyone mention this dude should throw on a Ignition Coil? lol, i love mine...

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    already have a msd sci ignition setup. and im now done,,, for now i just fininshed droppin in the engine and tranny at lunch. i got to test drive it for most of the day my linkage is kinda gettofied but im waiting on the linkage setup from weber. u guys were right its alot more fun than it was,, more power and gobs more acceleration. it seem as if the carb is a lil touchy on the throttle but im fine with that.the 272 degree cam is great some one said i might have trouble idleing under 1000 but it idles fine at 500 at 400 rpms it stumbles im going to run it like this fora while and then after i get a few more bucks i'll finish setting up the nitrous oxide system, and get an expensive azz header. i wanna gets a time slip i think its about that time im hopin for solid 14s i honestly think it will. i just got lots of pep in my step for shure. that tube that comes off the back of the intake just under the carb where the brake booster hooks up, came off and i was like wtf it was running great like 5 secs ago but any way i got it back in when i found i was suckin in all kinds of fresh air.
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    get video of your car up now i wanna see a built up carb'd accord tear it up, i need some inspiration.

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    i'm looking for a way to get a vid now since i cant run at the local drag track(texas motorplex) my evil digital cam wont do movies just pics so im looking for someone with a digital recorder.
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    when are you going to go do a run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by accord upset
    already have a msd sci ignition setup. and im now done,,, for now i just fininshed droppin in the engine and tranny at lunch. i got to test drive it for most of the day my linkage is kinda gettofied but im waiting on the linkage setup from weber. u guys were right its alot more fun than it was,, more power and gobs more acceleration. it seem as if the carb is a lil touchy on the throttle but im fine with that.the 272 degree cam is great some one said i might have trouble idleing under 1000 but it idles fine at 500 at 400 rpms it stumbles im going to run it like this fora while and then after i get a few more bucks i'll finish setting up the nitrous oxide system, and get an expensive azz header. i wanna gets a time slip i think its about that time im hopin for solid 14s i honestly think it will. i just got lots of pep in my step for shure. that tube that comes off the back of the intake just under the carb where the brake booster hooks up, came off and i was like wtf it was running great like 5 secs ago but any way i got it back in when i found i was suckin in all kinds of fresh air.

    well i think 14s are out of your reach....some ppl hit 13.7 with turbo...if guess you will be lucky if you hit 16

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    You need to be pulling a lot more power to hit solid 14's my cars are able to just hit solid mid 14's to low 14's and thats with a shed load of head work and some good cams as well as two Weber DCOE twin chokes, power output is between 190-200 depending on camshaft i'm using and the setup on the carbs. But good news is that this is on a low compression A20A1 bottom end, new engine i'm working on will have H beam rods and higher CR ratio pistons as well as a complete custom header and exhuast system. 2.25" should be big enough for any N/A application as long as the bends are mandrel bent if not you need at least 2.5" that way the bends will only shrink to 2.25" and not hurt performance too much.

    So for you to hit same times in the Accord which will weigh a little more than mine as the 2G Ludes with weight reduction and it's a coupe are a bit lighter you'd need to change to twin Webers, up compression, change fuel pump to higher rating. Then to get anything lower like really low 14's maybe high 13's you'd be looking at serious amount of headwork with stainless steel custom oversized valves all round, even better camshaft and the slickest exhaust system you can have made for a couple of thousand, combined with a fully built bottom end with forged pistons with very high CR ratio and will definately need H beam rods to last or your engine will grenade after 20k miles if your going to be revving past 7k rpm continually, my engine lasted 30k with a rpm limit of 7.5k with polished rods and balanced bottom end they are capable of revving to 8k and even more but the rods won't take it for long. Unless maybe you have the pistons pins made from titanium and forged pistons which are a bit lighter too, then with some ARP bolts the rods might hold but for $300 dollars for a set of H Beams for B18A LS motor and if your buying forged pistons i'd spend the extra $300 for piece of mind and longevity.

    A Good Weber 38/38 setup should produce around 150-170bhp depending on headwork done and the CR ratio of the block. which should net you a good solid 1/4 mile time of around 15.5-16 seconds with practice you biggest problem is going to be finding traction, some fat Toyo R888 and having coilovers on the rear to jack up the back of the car with extra stiff springs should help loads if not you'll be wheelk spinning with all that torque the A20 has!! Also another good mod for 1/4 miles is the Teg gear box mod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EX-ileAccord
    pleaseeeeeeeeeeee take off the wing
    DO IT! lol nice car and good luck with the mods

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