help i gots $ money just no parts

[accord upset]

ok guys i know this is someone elses dream but just collected $1,350 from the goverment for overpaid taxes<due to the fact i was over charged> and now i get to play with my car a 1986 2.0 4cyl carbed honda accord lx. my clutch was going out so i've already orded a preformance replacement<pressure plate,friction disk,throwout bearing,and plan on getting my stock flywheel lightend> anyway i have the engine and tranny out of the car i pulled the head a for new cam,springs,valves, and get the head port and polished. i want to know any ideas or more shit i can do to it till im outa money. i am already working on a nos setup so dont say hey u should get nos and blow it up <a buddie told me i should see how much nos a stock a20 will take before it granades>.i already have new cvjoints, and suspension parts i dono where i can get a front strut tower brace that will fit my carbed accord.i already have a msd box and coil setup. o i need to get my exaust fixed so give me some good ideas on headers,mufflers,cats ect. i also want to know about pistons/rings/rods that are avalible for our cars.

oh and this is a list of prices so far
$252 for clutch stuff

$100 for cam

$??? for flywheel lightning or $275 for clutch nets aluminum flywheel

$??? gota call bout head machinework

$409 for new weber carb and crap to bolt it up right < i want a good weber but i dont know if i want new that bad what u guys think >

[MessyHonda]

just do a fuel injection swap...you will like it over any carb since carbs have to be tuned and a fuel injection swap will regular on its own once its been installed right the first time. i decided to do my brakes and suspension since i want it to handle good once i get the engine mods going...so far i have a adjustable cam gear. my next performance mods are headers, exhaust and intake.

[bobafett]

so what are you looking for? suggestions for what to spend your money on?

i would get a nice header, cat, and exhaust system next, since it seems like you have the basic motor stuff covered.

you might also want to throw some money at suspension parts like coilovers and struts, or get some tires or something...

what areas are you looking to improve about the car?

[3G Jester]

your call bro. turbo'd FI or beefed up NA carb. there's people from both sides of that fence here. just do a little research

[A20A1]

Well you have some choices

Header
1) 4-1 S&S header
2) 4-2-1 Pacesetter
3) Have someone hack up a $160 4-2-1 Megan Racing stainless steel header (needs A20 Flange also)
https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50705

Exhaust
1) Custom 2" Mandrel or draw bent (not Press bent pipe) Smallest you'd want to go
2) Custom 2.25" Mandrel or draw bent (not Press bent pipe) Largest on mildly modified engines
3) Pacesetter Cat back 2.25"

Induction that fits on stock manifold
1) 38 Weber Carb *better performance
*Ask distributor to substitute 32/36 in weber kit with the 38 weber carb.
2) 32/36 Weber Carb *better for gas milage
You can run water choke or electric choke for either carb.

Camshaft
1) Colt Triflow regrind stage 2 *expensive but worth it.
2) Delta Regrind ???

[ghettogeddy]

i wouldent lighten a stock fly wheel get the aluminum flywheel oh an dhow much does that aluminum one waigh the stock ways 22 pounds and are about $60

[accord upset]

Well you have some choices

Header
1) 4-1 S&S header
2) 4-2-1 Pacesetter
3) Have someone hack up a $160 4-2-1 Megan Racing stainless steel header (needs A20 Flange also)
https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50705

Exhaust
1) Custom 2" Mandrel or draw bent (not Press bent pipe) Smallest you'd want to go
2) Custom 2.25" Mandrel or draw bent (not Press bent pipe) Largest on mildly modified engines
3) Pacesetter Cat back 2.25"

Induction that fits on stock manifold
1) 38 Weber Carb *better performance
*Ask distributor to substitute 32/36 in weber kit with the 38 weber carb.
2) 32/36 Weber Carb *better for gas milage
You can run water choke or electric choke for either carb.

Camshaft
1) Colt Triflow regrind stage 2 *expensive but worth it.
2) Delta Regrind ???

yea im looking for stuff i can throw money at in my car. i need brands, names , webaddys, phone numbers, part numbers...
a20a1 are u volunteering to hack up a megan header?? i dont like pacesetter, and i havent seen the s&s one yet anywhere. oh yea anyone know of some good upper end parts such as valve springs,retainers, and valves i can use and i have already orderd a delta 272 cam i have the specs but id have to find em if someone needs them for spring recomendation <hopen to get it to idle at lights,stop signs ect.> cheaper route on a webber carb maybe?? can we use a WEBER 32/36 DFAV if so i think i know where i might be able to get one. run some ideas, i want more input, waste some threadspace oh ghettogeddy the aluminum one weighs 12 pounds my stock one weighs 22 pounds right now ledgen master gave me a machin shops number in fort worth, tx that he said could lighten it down pretty good for cheap and the one from clutch net is like $275 ouch and maybe another month till i could get it

[A18A]

EFI FTW!!!!!!!! nos on a carbed engine??? comon.. i would get the body all fixed up nicely first but if its already in good condition well thenlisten 2 what the others said

[A20A1]

Nitrous was on carbed motors long before it went on EFI

[accord upset]

EFI FTW!!!!!!!! nos on a carbed engine??? comon.. i would get the body all fixed up nicely first but if its already in good condition well thenlisten 2 what the others said

body is fix up pretty nice check out the link to my cardomain
and nos yes on a carbed accord is goin to happen ima try running a 50 shot direct port wet setup i have the stuff just gonna plumb each of the foggers into the intake close to the head as i can when i get her back together

[A20A1]

https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37261

I'm happy to see you're running a wet setup... dry setup on carb need extra rich mixture at WOT to make up for the nitrous. Then when you don't run nitrous you change a jet or two and lean it up some.

[ghettogeddy]

yea im looking for stuff i can throw money at in my car. i need brands, names , webaddys, phone numbers, part numbers...
a20a1 are u volunteering to hack up a megan header?? i dont like pacesetter, and i havent seen the s&s one yet anywhere. oh yea anyone know of some good upper end parts such as valve springs,retainers, and valves i can use and i have already orderd a delta 272 cam i have the specs but id have to find em if someone needs them for spring recomendation <hopen to get it to idle at lights,stop signs ect.> cheaper route on a webber carb maybe?? can we use a WEBER 32/36 DFAV if so i think i know where i might be able to get one. run some ideas, i want more input, waste some threadspace oh ghettogeddy the aluminum one weighs 12 pounds my stock one weighs 22 pounds right now ledgen master gave me a machin shops number in fort worth, tx that he said could lighten it down pretty good for cheap and the one from clutch net is like $275 ouch and maybe another month till i could get it

ya the dif is if u lighten a stock clutch u loose flywheel to clutch surface if u buy the aluminum one it will be a t stock spec's just lighter

[accord upset]

ok update i gota weber 38 DGEV 4a2 for 287.75 but i still need a the adapter plates, gaskets, and linkage setup.
heres some pics of the one i bought
http://i16.ebayimg.com/04/i/07/a6/0c/c1_1.JPG
http://i1.ebayimg.com/03/i/07/aa/c0/fe_1_b.JPG
oh and the stock flywheel went to ft worth to get lightented balenced and resurfaced
the head shop is working on the head but they cant finish till the cam comes in so im just waiting on shipping on stuff right now and cleaning stuff up on the engine as much as possable. im think it sux that i might have to wait on a header im not going with pacesetter,, im not impressed at all with there products. then theres dc which i could get but most likely wont be able to get till im back at work for a week or 2. last but not least theres s&s which i still havent found a phone number to so i can price a header or possable place an order.im also going to try to get a new flexpipe to replace the one i have for now. any other ideas befor i run outa money you guys

[reanimator420]

wuts up with the park bench?lol nice car by the way. you should also get the 88-89 front bumper, there cheap at jy and also a 1g teg lip too. that should run ya about 20-30 bucks and would look 10x better imo.

[MessyHonda]

ok update i gota weber 38 DGEV 4a2 for 287.75 but i still need a the adapter plates, gaskets, and linkage setup.
heres some pics of the one i bought
http://i16.ebayimg.com/04/i/07/a6/0c/c1_1.JPG
http://i1.ebayimg.com/03/i/07/aa/c0/fe_1_b.JPG

alright now that you have good intake/carb. Now you can start thinking of a good exhaust to back it up...you can get the pacesetter ones for like 180 and another 180 at your local exhuast shop will get you a nice 2.25 pipe with a muffler....all the stuff. you have to post pic after do it.

[A20A1]

Did you list what jets the 38 came with?

Also what motor was that installed on?
What was the motors displacement?

https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37261

I'm happy to see you're running a wet setup... dry setup on carb need extra rich mixture at WOT to make up for the nitrous. Then when you don't run nitrous you change a jet or two and lean it up some.

This link was in the thread I posted...
http://www.ssheaders.com/4cylinder.htm

you had to click on the name "S&S" which was the link to the website.

anyways the phone # is at the bottom.

[accord upset]

bad news first i just got laid off with like 30 other peeps from a company i just started and was talking about sending me to school to learn technical enginering ,, but how bout a big bowl of fuck them and on with the car build maybe i'll get it together a lil quicker now that i have a vacation. the header will definatly have to wait now but it has to be back together for me to find a new job <assumeing i havent already got one> :-)

ok i just got the clutch pressure plate and friction disc along with the carb in the mail today its stamped as a weber 38dgas 4a2 but it has a electric choke. the guy said it was set up for a 4 cylender truck but no engine size or make or model he sent the parts list with the carb. on the parts list that he sent it shows part numbers and size in mm. so if the stuff thats in it hasnt been changed this is what i got so far.
main jet: weber part number 41120.001 ,,,and size in mm is 1.45
air corrector jet: pn 41360.001 ,, 1.85
emulsioning tube: pn 61440.216 ,, f50
idling jet: pn 41160.003 ,, .45
pump jet: pn 41252.013 ,, .70
i'll check in a lil if thats possable without tearing the carb apart.

[EX-ileAccord]

pleaseeeeeeeeeeee take off the wing

[A20A1]

woah a 70 pump jet.

Main Jet: 145
Air Correction Jet: 185
Emulsion Tube: F50
Idle Jet: 45
Pump Jet: 70


Setting on a 1751cc (1.8 liter) Engine
Main Jet: 140
Air Correction Jet:185
Emulsion Tube: F50
Idle Jet: 55
Pump Jet: 70
Running a little rich at idle with 60 idle jets, lowered to 55.
Leans slightly @ steady 4000 rpm, so possibly bump up mains and change air correction and emulsion tubes.
The pump jet might be too large.

Setting on a 2994cc (3.0 liter) Engine
Main Jet: 145
Air Correction Jet: 185
Emulsion Tube: F50
Idle jet: 50
Pump Jet: 65


Based on those I'd say you are okay with both your air correction and your mains.
All you would have to worry about would be your idle jet, the pump jet and the emulsion tube.
You pump jet may need to be lowered to a 65
The idle jet can be checked using the adjustment methods here:
https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4223
remember to count the # of turns for both idle screws. If you need a larger idle jet, you must get 2.

[Legend_master]

ya the dif is if u lighten a stock clutch u loose flywheel to clutch surface if u buy the aluminum one it will be a t stock spec's just lighter

Actually they take the metal off the back fo the flywheel and leave a little hump in the middle to allow for the same thickness. They did it on my factory b18 flywheel and it works great.

[accord upset]

cant take off the wing i'll have holes in my trunk i dont like that idea. and will i need to buy some jets and then start tuning. or will i be able to adjust it enuf to make it work as is. hey ledgen thanks for the numbers man. he said when i pick up the flywheel i should ecpect 12lbs or less. remember it started at 22lbs so thats 10lbs of rotational weight that i just tossed. the cam should be here tomarrow. the head still have no timeframe on. flywheel should be back on wendsay. but everything is starting to come together.

[Legend_master]

cant take off the wing i'll have holes in my trunk i dont like that idea. and will i need to buy some jets and then start tuning. or will i be able to adjust it enuf to make it work as is. hey ledgen thanks for the numbers man. he said when i pick up the flywheel i should ecpect 12lbs or less. remember it started at 22lbs so thats 10lbs of rotational weight that i just tossed. the cam should be here tomarrow. the head still have no timeframe on. flywheel should be back on wendsay. but everything is starting to come together.

no problem man, they do some very good work and they will only take off enough weight to still make it safe. Were are you getting the head work done?

[accord upset]

jimmy allard here in ennis. make shure the old man allard does it the kids up there arnt as good.

man the guys sent the wrong clutch pressure plate it looks close but the bolt holes are wrong and the part that accually touches the friction disk on my flywheel is recessed,, its also smaller in diameter of the friction material. this is a side view diagram i just made a sec ago.


--______-- old pressure plate,,,,, ---------- new pressure plate

--______-- <<<<<flywheel>>>>> --_____--

guess its time to call the clutch peeps and piss someone off.

[EX-ileAccord]

I'll give you a trunk lid if you send me pictures of that wing on fire or in the crusher. lol

[accord upset]

ok got the flywheel back they said they couldnt take it down any lower than 14 safely so my flywheel is at 14 lbs now and im very please with there work and how fast they got it done. the carb mounting plate just got here today. the clutch guys told me just to send the wrong one back and they'll send the right one. the head should be back tomarrow so im gonna start putting things back together tomarrow. oh and ex-ile if you would have told me that befor i got my car painted we kould have roasted marshmellows around it.