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    replacing driveshafts

    I need to replace the driveshafts on my 87 dx. Do i need to drain the tranny fluid to do it? does the dynamic damper come on new driveshafts or does it have to be purchased seperately?

    do you guys have any tips other than what the workshop manual says?
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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    um yes u do have to drain the fluid but u can do it when u remove the shaft it self it will come out after u remove the shaft other than that make shur u have some heavy duty tools to remove the axil nut

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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    yea, i learned that the hard way with my other honda. the next question is, where is the filler/dip stick for the tranny?
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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    auto or stick

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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    when i replaced my axles i did not have to drain the fluid and i have a 88 dx auto...they just came out and the reman just went in like a glove....it sucks since honda did not design the fork think so they could be sliped out in the middle but you have to take off the bottom part of it. i just helped my uncle do it and with a lift and all the right tools we changed them out in 15 mins each side

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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    well i know on my 5speed when we did the clutch the first thing we took out was the drive shafte and we had something there to catch all the oil that comes out

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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    its a manual.
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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    The axle nut is 1 1/4". Good 1/2" drive impact would spin if off easy, but you can use a breaker bar. Try to knock the indention out on the axle nut with a screwdriver & hamer, it'll make the nut spin off easier.

    Also a good time to look at the seal on the transaxle, if looks like it is leaking, replace it. The C-clip on the driveshaft should be replaced anytime you pull the driveshaft out, but that is your call.
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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    Quote Originally Posted by djcslice
    its a manual.
    there is no dip stick

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    I just replaced mine this weekend. Have fun with that, make absolute sure they compare exactly to your cores and don't buy them at Shucks. I returned 3 halfshafts from Shucks and bought a brand new one at NAPA for cheaper and it fit exactly how it should have. Those ring clips need to snap in firmly, but shoudln't have to be hammered in (as I did with one of my Shucks axles that was a bitch to remove). If it's a manual, then yeah the oil is going to drain when you pull the axle out. You should get new oil seals too, since they're about $5.00 a piece and will give you some good peace of mind that your oil won't all leak out...

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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    where is the oil filler cap then? i was planning on buying my axels from either drivewire.com or rockauto.com
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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    its on the side or u can take the spedo cable assm out a fill from there its prolly easyer to do it that way all u have to do is disconect the spedo cable, then the two vacume lines remember were they go there should only be one bolt maybe two i cannot remember but afetr u get the bolt (or bolts)off just twist and it should come out wih ne prob then just fill from there if u want u can also open the side fill hole just so u know ur getting the correct amount of fluid into the tranny, only fill to the lower edge of the hole

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    Yeah definitely use the side hole, or else you'll have no idea how much fluid you're putting in there. I'ts a 17mm bolt on the side of the transmission.

    You'll need a funnel with a long hose on it or a pump, and you fill it up until the fluid starts to pour out. That how you'll know it's at the correct level.

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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    how about the dynamic dampers? do they come on new driveshafts or do i have to buy them seperately? are they even worth putting on?
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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    um that i dont know is it connected to the shaft of no

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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    dynamic dampers are rubber rings that sit on the metal shaft of the drive shaft. From all of the pictures posted on napa, drivewire and rockauto, i havent seen any on them. It does talk about them in the honda shop manual.
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    I would jump in and help ya, but I just replaced both axles on my car and I didn't have anything like that. Also the 3gee I had didn't have anything like that on the axles as far as I know.

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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    When I replaced the passanger side halfshaft the only thing that gave me a problem is the damn lower control arm bolt, what happens in that is that there is a metal sleeve in the bushing that froze and fuzed together that wasn't fun, and than none of the parts stores had another bushing or bolt, so I had to get one from Honda, other than that it wasn't to bad.

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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    and also the drain plug is right on the bottom and you just use a 3/8" ratchet to get it lose and thight again.

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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    Quote Originally Posted by ilikevtecs
    what happens in that is that there is a metal sleeve in the bushing that froze and fuzed together that wasn't fun, and than none of the parts stores had another bushing or bolt, so I had to get one from Honda, other than that it wasn't to bad.
    That bushing is froze up most of the time. Much agreeded on that comment. I personally broke the strut tower down & took it out from the top to get the s.o.b. out the way.
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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    Quote Originally Posted by djcslice
    dynamic dampers are rubber rings that sit on the metal shaft of the drive shaft. From all of the pictures posted on napa, drivewire and rockauto, i havent seen any on them. It does talk about them in the honda shop manual.
    Most rebuilt axles do not come with a damper. They cannot be attached without disassembling the inner CV joint. Its unlikely that you'll notice significant change in performance or any vibration without a damper.
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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    ok, i have a few more questions...

    what is the weight and type of transmission oil needed? How much oil can i expect to loose (or how much do i need to buy?)

    are there any special tools that i need? anything else you guys recommend?

    i am at college, where honda parts arent readily available, is there anything i should buy just to be safe? (damper fork bushings, differential oil seals, etc?)

    do new driveshafts come with new spring clips or do i need to buy them? (if so, what size?
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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    Quote Originally Posted by djcslice
    ok, i have a few more questions...
    what is the weight and type of transmission oil needed? How much oil can i expect to loose (or how much do i need to buy?)
    are there any special tools that i need? anything else you guys recommend?
    i am at college, where honda parts arent readily available, is there anything i should buy just to be safe? (damper fork bushings, differential oil seals, etc?)
    do new driveshafts come with new spring clips or do i need to buy them? (if so, what size?
    Purchase new differential output seals, new axle circlips (even if the rebuilt ones come with new ones, a lot of the time they aren't the correct size and may cause the axle to pop out). I'm on the verge of replacing my axles too and here's my parts list:
    1) MOOG lower control arm bushing kits (includes new bolt and nut)
    2) New Axle Nuts
    3) New Oil Seals
    4) New Circlips

    Everything except the MOOG kits was purchased through the dealer (majestic honda online).

    For a manual transmission you will need to get either 10W-30 motor oil or Honda MTF from the dealer. I'm planning to replace the 10W-30 oil in my tranny with the MTF. Either one works just fine, although MTF is claimed to improve shift quality somehow (we'll see about that). Because the axles are at the very bottom of the transmission, I'd expect a lot of oil to come out. It might be a good ide to simply drain the transmission and minimize the mess. I believe it takes a little under 3 quarts to top off the transmission.

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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    is the output shaft seal and the drive axel seal the same thing?
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    Re: replacing driveshafts

    Quote Originally Posted by djcslice
    is the output shaft seal and the drive axel seal the same thing?
    Yes, one and the same. There is one for each axle.
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