What is the next "turbo"?

[Tomisimo]

The Klemann has made supercharger(Kompressor) with 3 gears how cool is that?!?
Coz of that, when kompressor comes to the limit of how much it can push, it changes gear self. That way kompressor kapasety is enkrease by 300-400% AWSOME

[snoopyloopy]

so basically like a supercharger with a transmission. sick.

[DDRaptor]

that's what a kompressor mecerdes means. hell i did not know that.

[snoopyloopy]

me either. i figured it had something to do with forced induction, but i didn't think about a supercharger.

[gp02a0083]

for the most part thats the basis of a air shifter used on many drag motorcycles and cars

[speedpenguin]

lol...actually the average age in the forum is about 22-23 soooo...that would make us adults...i think lol

you can't really call anyone on this forum an adult. We talk about cars all day, and in our spare time we talk about videogames.

[A18A]

anyone ever heard of the X-engine? that one that 2ndGenGuy posted, to me it looked like a rotory crossed with a piston engine lol.. i understand it now..


how do those 3point things spin different ways? that guy is a genius


thats 1 hell of a big timing belt.

[BeatThisLXI]

lol...actually the average age in the forum is about 22-23 soooo...that would make us adults...i think lol

Yeah, I realize that, lol. Just a figure of speech. Ex.: kids, dudes, guys, freaks, hondakidz, gearheads, tunernuts, etc. You know just stuff to call ppl as a whole.

[DDRaptor]

would'nt that X engine be a cross between a rotary and a boxer, caus ethe pistons are flat. just my 2cents, i'm still waiting to get a paycheck and buy a spare a20, so that way i still have a ride to work, cause im' sure kill something.

[A18A]

would'nt that X engine be a cross between a rotary and a boxer, caus ethe pistons are flat. just my 2cents, i'm still waiting to get a paycheck and buy a spare a20, so that way i still have a ride to work, cause im' sure kill something.

its like 2 V engines, just 1 V is upside down and makes it look like a X, it must be hella tight for space, i havnt seen a pic of 1 yet, but i dont know how they will make it so the oil stays in the crank area and not fall into the bottom cylinders :S well thats what i think a X-engine is anyways

the only pic i can find:


what the fcuk?

[DDRaptor]

dude that's a Prop engine for a plane, looks like a 12 or 16 cylinder engine.

[89T]

bmw is already using this 2 stage turbo setup...

http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/en/products/r2s.asp

[snoopyloopy]

hmm....i've kinda had an idea like that to run a tt set-up kinda like that. but not as advanced as that one is. i can only imagine what the scene will be like when people start putting those on civics and evos.

[89T]

you and i both.....
i had it all drawn up! then i picked up an hci mag yesterday and there it was.
i have a couple of turbos???

[Tomisimo]

bmw is already using this 2 stage turbo setup...

http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/en/products/r2s.asp

You mean BiTurbo? not a stage2. a smalor turbo charges a BIG turbo. that way you get extra pust... The BMW get it from Mercedes, Mercedes have a SL65 AMG with BiTurbo wich get it 1000Nm at 600-700BHP dont remember aqurate. AMG must brake down the motor coz of aktual capasety was about 1400Nm, they couldent find a gear box that cud handle so much torque.

[Tomisimo]

You mean BiTurbo? not a stage2. a smalor turbo charges a BIG turbo. that way you get extra pust... The BMW get it from Mercedes, Mercedes have a SL65 AMG with BiTurbo wich get it 1000Nm at 600-700BHP dont remember aqurate. AMG must brake down the motor coz of aktual capasety was about 1400Nm, they couldent find a gear box that cud handle so much torque.

edit : it stands there in black on white TWO Stage - not stage two. it make alot of sence

[Tomisimo]

that's what a kompressor mecerdes means. hell i did not know that.

The thing is that Mercedes was desapointed in superchargers in theres performance cars like SL, SLK, CLK and CL models. Coz kompressor take power from a motor to ran, but Turbo dosent. Kompressor works fine on low RPM and gradualy los it power with enkrised RPM. Coz wheel that terns skruw in a kompressor riches max capasety. Becouse of that Klemman had to come up with a radikal solution. the ansver was kompressor with gearbox.

[89T]

edit : it stands there in black on white TWO Stage - not stage two. it make alot of sence

thanks for the edit...

http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/en/products/r2s.asp
this is the link i got the info from...
borgwarner is comming out with an aftermatket turbo line called airwerks...they are supposed to be the shitt!

[DDRaptor]

Hey What about the Electric superchargers i'm hearing very good things and i'm seriously thinking about it, i know it will probally not make more than 20-25hp at most but, i guess it's something considering it's less than $200

[MessyHonda]

Hey What about the Electric superchargers i'm hearing very good things and i'm seriously thinking about it, i know it will probally not make more than 20-25hp at most but, i guess it's something considering it's less than $200

you are carbed...i think you need a special carburator for turbo or any type of boast....

[DDRaptor]

gah your right. i love the power band of my engine but alot of the mods don't pertain to me sometimes.

time to start saving up for that weber.

[SephirXV]

Although it's not a semi-bolt on like a tc/sc, as far as the next big thing in go fast components, I think that the Continuosly Variable Tranny will start to make a big difference in the way go-fast cars are made.

For those of you not familiar, a CVT is a tranny without gears, but alters it's gear ratio in a perfectly smooth transition. Think of it as the volume on an analog radio. Wikipedia has a good article on the CVT.

Since people started racing cars, it has all been about getting a good power curve, and using a tranny with gear ratios sized appropriately to that curve. However, a CVT can find a perfect ratio to keep the engine at it's peak power regardless of the speed of the vehicle. For a race, you floor it, and a control module waits for the engine to reach it's peak power RPM, then alters the gear ratio to keep the engine there. The effect is a car that pulls forever, or at least to the limits of the engine.

Once you have a car that spends most of it's time at one or two different engine speeds (one for power, one for economy), you stop spending all your time tuning a car to a curve and instead focus on a very narrow band, you can tune the entire car to that same band and you are basically done. It's an automatic, but really it only uses the clutch at a complete stop (or coasting), so the tranny is actually far simpler then even our manual trannys.

[DDRaptor]

thank you first person that has made CVT make some sense to me.