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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    wtf ugg there is no white mark theres a T and everytime i tried to get the damn thing on at that point it would frigen move half a tooth, im sick of this car now the frigen egr pipe wont fit back on and i have a damn shop manuel and all it says is line it up with the timeing mark, and i cant get a new crank puylly becuse im in POS maine and im suposed to have this car driveing to florida by tomarow and its not done, to much shit to do in this short time



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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    the line next to the T is the white one. My crank pulley has a small chip in it from whomever did the belt last. It didn't bother my car one bit. As for the EGR, Your gonna have to force it to line up. Those things are a pain in the but on any car.

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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    little tip, remove the spark plugs. this way, pistons can travel easy. you should be able to get the timing mark TDC, which is T mark, without skipping a tooth.
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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    i was looking at the timeing hole thingy (what the hell is it called so i will stop calling it that) and noticed the red mark was next to a 5 mark , and when i looked back in my haynes manuel thing it showd it being at the number 4 mark wich should be the red line? i donty know im dredding haveing to move it again it took me over 3 hours to get it on the first time, and what puzled me the most was the T thingy was at the very end of the spinny thingy that has marks on it (im really tired lol) but yeah sorry if i seemed i fliped out earlyer i have been working on this car non stop for the past 3 days and its starting to get to me

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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    i think you took a project that you don't know how to do it.
    take it to a mechanic and let them finish it.


    the red mark should be 15 deg before tdc, so if you keep rotating just a hair you should see the T mark.
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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    Quote Originally Posted by shepherd79
    i think you took a project that you don't know how to do it.
    take it to a mechanic and let them finish it.
    the red mark should be 15 deg before tdc, so if you keep rotating just a hair you should see the T mark.
    i still got to give the guy props for taking it on.....i hate to say it but i didnt change the headgasket on my car...my uncle helped me....i started with out him...took me 3 hours just to get to the damn thing....i knoe some one already said it ....make sure its the belt you need.

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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    Quote Originally Posted by shepherd79
    i think you took a project that you don't know how to do it.
    take it to a mechanic and let them finish it.
    the red mark should be 15 deg before tdc, so if you keep rotating just a hair you should see the T mark.

    no i reset it onto the corect line, my manuel did not tell me what mark was the tieing mark thank you someone mentioned the red line so i put it on that, i found out it was rong and i reset it, excuse me that i dont know the damn color line or w/e offhand for this exact car....

    i had it started today but it was squeling do to the lower timeing belt cover had a crack in it and was rubbing the crank pully, after i took it back off and started torqueing the cam pully back on my grandmother droped a damn tool in the sight hole for the timeing, i had asked her to hold a screwdriver in place while i tighted it all back up...... i know what i have to do now is take the entire tranny off to get it out... but i did have it running and it ran very well besides the plastic peice rubbing on the timeing cover....

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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    Oh man... That sucks! All that work to have grandma drop a tool down the timing hole....

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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasonf860
    Oh man... That sucks! All that work to have grandma drop a tool down the timing hole....
    she was thew opnly person i could get to hold it while i tightend her up... i dont even know were to begin to get the peice out.. thing that sucks so bad is it fired up and ran great, this projected started almost 2 months ago...... and just like that its fucked up again

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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    i know everything else in there is steel too, but i'd try a magnet extension first... you never know!

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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasonf860
    i know everything else in there is steel too, but i'd try a magnet extension first... you never know!
    yeah i was about to say...get a magnet or something....sorry about it tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasonf860
    i know everything else in there is steel too, but i'd try a magnet extension first... you never know!
    holy hell i didnt even think about that!! shit mayby my grand fother has one with his tools someplace thanks!

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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    It's late, & I'm not going out in the garage to look. There should be a bellhousing cover on the bottom that you can remove. Most trannsmissions have one so you can get to the torque convertor bolts after stabbing on a tranny.
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    well theres a cover underneath the tranny you might be able to remove or at least loosen to get the tool out the bottem. I have ,or had, on my 5 speed but when I did the clutch I forgot it so I tossed it in a box. Sounds like you close to getting it running.
    wp

    Quote Originally Posted by ddude2uc
    It's late, & I'm not going out in the garage to look. There should be a bellhousing cover on the bottom that you can remove. Most trannsmissions have one so you can get to the torque convertor bolts after stabbing on a tranny.
    jinx
    wp
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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldblueaccord
    jinx
    wp
    wow havent heard that phrase in a while.....anyways good luck skaterboi

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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    Quote Originally Posted by ddude2uc
    It's late, & I'm not going out in the garage to look. There should be a bellhousing cover on the bottom that you can remove. Most trannsmissions have one so you can get to the torque convertor bolts after stabbing on a tranny.
    yeah thats cool, its way to late just to look at it, i will look around under there to see what i can come up with, i just got so pissed off i had to walk away before i smashed something

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldblueaccord
    . Sounds like you close to getting it running.
    wp
    yeah i had her running!! thats whats pissing me off so badly, only thing was the lower timeng cover was all bent up and it was scraping so i desided to take it off, and then that happend, she ran for like 3 minutes, after like 2 months apart, its why this is eating me up so bad


    Quote Originally Posted by MessyHonda
    wow havent heard that phrase in a while.....anyways good luck skaterboi
    lol, yeah thanks, ima need all the luck i can get, hopefullyit didnt f*ck sometihng up in there

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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    well shes all back together but of corse sometihng else is now rong, i got it fired up and it started getting pinging so i thought damn i screwd up the timeing, so i got out my timeing light and threw it on and the frigen timeing mark wouldent hold steady kept jumping around, i jacked it back up and se the crank on TDC and everytihng lined up perfectly.... wich means i think my dizzy is shot, i was haveing a problem getting the car to time before i left florida aswell.... so im clueless and outa time and money... and it looks like it might be going to the junk yard now...

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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    Quote Originally Posted by labeledsk8r
    well shes all back together but of corse sometihng else is now rong, i got it fired up and it started getting pinging so i thought damn i screwd up the timeing, so i got out my timeing light and threw it on and the frigen timeing mark wouldent hold steady kept jumping around, i jacked it back up and se the crank on TDC and everytihng lined up perfectly.... wich means i think my dizzy is shot, i was haveing a problem getting the car to time before i left florida aswell.... so im clueless and outa time and money... and it looks like it might be going to the junk yard now...
    I assuming your timing belts tight ? not flopping around as its running?

    Your on #1 spark plug wire and your timing light is OK. Check it on another running car.

    The pinging you hear is at idle ? running ? You can time it "by ear" meaning by where the idle is and no ping without a light until you can get it straightened out. Check other things like loose wires around the coil etc and a bad spark plug wire too.

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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    Dude, you spent too much time on this to stop now! there has to be a JY around that you can get a dizzy from!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasonf860
    Dude, you spent too much time on this to stop now! there has to be a JY around that you can get a dizzy from!
    the closest JY is 6 citys away and the oldest honda (not even in the accord family) is a 1991. then like the next closest one is about a 8-9 hour trip and i dont even have a number to call to see if that have a carbed accord there, and i kinda dont wana make the trip and come out empty handed... i dont know what ima do anymore.. all i know is im suposed to leave for florida in like a day and if the cars not done it goes to the JY and i kinda am getting sick of spending more money on it...

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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    I've timed engines with older style distributors & most of the time the timing light bounces around. Make sure you adjust your valve lash too! If you got that much time & money in it, it'll be your loss to the JY.
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    lol um now my teenage noobishness is going to show.... how do you adjust valve lash?? and on the timeing the thing is i had timed it when i first fired it up and it timed perfectly right on its mar every time, i took her for a quick spin, found out i had my throutle to tight and that i had let my TV cable rub up aignst my headers wich melted some plastic. after i fixed this stuff i fired it back up and now she wont time, i dont see what coulda changed, i just know that my dizzy was really worn out the end was very lose **edit-the cam shaft end** when i took it out beofre the rebuild

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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    The how to on valve lash is in the HOW-TO section under Engines & Transmissions, 10 down.

    The end of the dizzy could be worn out. Just a matter of troubleshooting. If you have some serious slack between the rotor & here a clank from slap, then yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddude2uc
    The how to on valve lash is in the HOW-TO section under Engines & Transmissions, 10 down.
    The end of the dizzy could be worn out. Just a matter of troubleshooting.
    ok ima go read that,, um do you know of any cheap quick fixes for the dizzy, like i said i had a good amount of free play on the end while it was out and its the original from back in 89 LOL. i dont know i might just pull some of the new parts back out and scrap the rest becuse im out of time

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    Re: timeing belt wont line up, please help!

    The only way to cheap out on buying a reman dizzy is to buy a rotor & cap, other than that there is no kit for it. (reluctor, etc.)
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