Clutches?

[ICEMAN707]

What's a good clutch?

-kevlar or carbon?
-full faced or windowed?
-sprung hub or solid hub?

[AccordEpicenter]

it depends, are you looking for a street/strip clutch (somthing a little better than stock) or a full race clutch? I have a full race clutch but i wouldnt reccomend it to someone who has just minor mods.

[ICEMAN707]

i want something reliable for the street but almost as strong and grippy as a race clutch. i know the race clutches can be hard to engage and give your leg a workout. i want something just in between.

[AccordEpicenter]

an act stage 2 kevlar would do it, and probably last longer than stock. Stay away from centerforce. Clutch masters and ClutchNet are good too

[ICEMAN707]

I've looked at the Unorthodox racing ones with their unorthodox prices ($480). How much are ACT's? What about Exedy, any good?

[AccordEpicenter]

Exedys are good but are stock replacement and arent stronger than stock. A clutch masters stage 2 id take over the act, but the CM is like $500. Im looking now and i guess act doesnt offer the kevlar clutch kit for our cars. I bet clutchnet would make you one with a kevlar disk... id give them a call.

[ICEMAN707]

What about type of clutch, not brand? Which is better?

-kevlar or carbon?
-full faced or windowed?
-sprung hub or solid hub?

[AccordEpicenter]

kevlar is gonna last ALOT longer, carbon has more holding power. Full faced wears a little longer and windowed holds a little better. Sprung hub is practically a must for a pucked clutch to be streetable but i think for a kevlar or organic clutch you could be fine with a solid hub. If you like a smooth engagement, id get the sprung hub.

[ICEMAN707]

so full-faced, kevlar, sprung hub clutch then eh? cool bro, thanks!

[Ludi Mali]

ice, let me know what you get I'm gonna have to be replacing mine within a few months. It'd be good to hear a review.

[ICEMAN707]

ice, let me know what you get I'm gonna have to be replacing mine within a few months. It'd be good to hear a review.

definitely will.

[AccordEpicenter]

i think only CM has a kit that your looking for that fits all of the above criteria, the stage 2

[ICEMAN707]

i think only CM has a kit that your looking for that fits all of the above criteria, the stage 2

Unorthodox racing has all varieties of clutches I listed above that's why I asked which type would be better. Plus they make a 5lb. aluminum flywheel for our car. Very pricey though...about $500 for each, the clutch and flywheel.

[AccordEpicenter]

ive heard about it, but where can you actually get one? I have an aasco one, and its pretty nice... bout 8lb

[ICEMAN707]

ive heard about it, but where can you actually get one? I have an aasco one, and its pretty nice... bout 8lb

PlanetPerformance sells alot more stuff for our cars than most sites. I looove this site:

Unorthodox Racing Alum. Flywheel: $486
http://www.performancecenter.com/pro...ions/sf5_2.0l/

All Brands of Clutches, even Unorthodox Kevlar Clutches:
http://www.performancecenter.com/pro...ions/sf5_2.0l/

[1987HondaAccord]

which ACT clutch is stage 2? none of them specifically mention what kinda of 'stage' they are. or maybe i missed it?

[Slipknotcraig133]

Whats wrong with Centerforce. I have a Centerforce clutch and it hooks up good with the stuff that i have done and it only cost me 140 or something like that.

[rjudgey]

Well i've tried everything and broken all of them so far, but i have just bought Clutchnet and all i can say is wow that thing is built to last the disks and pressure plates are twice as good as even the best CM or ACT can make, i had a stage three CM and that lasted 10K before it broke then i found out that the pressure plate is a $10 POS that they use, the Disk's weren't much better re-used that in an AP pressure plate whic are very good as well and had another 6K out of that before that broke and fell apart!!!
If you go to my Cardomain page got some hi res pics of the clutch and disk, only downside is you'll need a Prelude 1.8 flywheel or 2G accord flywheel to use this particular kit, but if you buy a new one or old one get it shaved and it will weigh only 9lb in weight and that will boost your accleration times too!!

http://www.cardomain.com/id/rjudgey

[AccordEpicenter]

gotta tell yea, the quality is killer with the clutchnet unit, they pocket the springs so they wont pop out like all the other brands, they were pretty quick making mine, the cost was on the cheap side (mine was $385, beats $500 for a CM with a comparable amount of holding power) thats why i love mine soo much. Mine is a dual diaphram 6 puck sprung combo, so it has 2 layers of spring steel instead of one, and it also has 3 layers of the marcel spring for the inner pressure ring in the pressure plate. . They make their Pressure plates and their disks, no off the shelf stuff like centerforce etc. I could have gotten an organic disk, 6 puck, 4 puck, 3 puck and maybe a few others, all in spung or unsprung versions. Oh yeah, even with my very heavy pressure plate clamp load, i have not broken a clutch cable yet, not even one.

[Busted_Blue]

What stage is an Organic Street disc ACT clutch with heavy duty pressure plate? I'm looking for something for a motor that is basically stock (intake header, exhaust)

[ICEMAN707]

clutchnet huh? how does that compare to the full kevlar unorthodox racing ones? do they make one for the 3gee or is the 1.8L lude or 2gee accord flywheel & clutch combo the only way?

[AccordEpicenter]

they can make pretty much anything you want. Im running one they made for my 88lxi. Id contact clutchnet to see if they could make you a kevlar unit... im not sure if they do

[ICEMAN707]

You can't find a kevlar unit for less than $480 usually right?

[phrenology]

clutchnet huh? how does that compare to the full kevlar unorthodox racing ones? do they make one for the 3gee or is the 1.8L lude or 2gee accord flywheel & clutch combo the only way?

Rjudgey and I discussed this ealier: (scroll down a few comments past my flywheel plug)


Flywheel/Clutch Debate

If you take his advice and go with the 1.8 clutch setup then I might be able to do a special lightened OEM flywheel for the ES (2Gee Accord) 1.8 clutch. I also have two spare stock ES flywheels layin' about if you don't find a reasonably priced aftermarket. I know there are aluminums for the ES/ET motors but they are expensive too. They are very similar to the A20s but the surface area is smaller and the pressure plate mounts are reverse. They are a direct bolt-up otherwise.

[phrenology]

You can't find a kevlar unit for less than $480 usually right?

I got a complete Zoom Kevlar/Organic clutch kit for less than $400, but I couldn't tell you how it runs because I haven't tried it yet. No one else seems to have posted on Zooms, It should run better than OEM and I'm not trying to put alot through it right now.

My Clutch Install