The Journey 89 turbo'ed-----89T

[89T]

aebs typhoon>skunk2 intake mani. Its cheaper too. Im thinking about getting a 65-70mm tb too, they are just damn expensive!

why the aebs typhoon over the skunk2?

i figure why go in it half way when you can suprise the shit out of people when you open the hood of an old ass accord.
You for one should know the look, when you pull away!

it's just like anything else, you'r buying the name.

for those that think i am ballin; this is a hobby for me, It keep's me out of the bars, off drugs, gives me something to build (I do the fab work myself) and i would be damb'ed if i did'nt like to go fast!

you'r right the tb's arent cheap. I have 70mm from a 5.0 mustang that i'm going to try and fit. I need the intake first to see what modifications will need to be done, or if i need to make an adaptor plate.
either way i'll make it work.

[89T]

Go for it....Hey PM me I wanna ask you a few Q's about your Turbo set up, mainly your dizzy, and fuel management.

pm'ed

[Accordtheory]

no b series mannifold is a direct bolt on. they all need moddification.

I said "but not to the a20 anyway, so who cares". The aebs is not a direct bolt on to the engine it is meant for either, you still have to fuck with the vacuum lines, etc to make everything fit. The s2 fits like stock.

[Accordtheory]

why the aebs typhoon over the skunk2?

I think the S2/oem type r/aebs manifolds are all pretty comparable, just like the victor x/bbk/revhard manifolds, or AIR/endyn/full race manifolds. The first category tries not to sacrifice mid range efficiency, the 2nd category does in favor of higher rpm power, and the 3rd category is just better engineering overall, to the tune of like 40whp over the victor x on a high boost application, with a fatter powerband too.

I would choose the aebs over the S2 because it I believe it has a larger plenum.

[Accordtheory]

man, this site is all retarded right now..it just tried to multiply my post

[Bglad420]

What about the venom intake??? How does that compare????

[Deadhead]

Venom intakes are pretty sweet, but i'm sure those would need modification also. Or do they make them for the a20?

The only venom i've seen is on a 4g63 motor.

[aerokid1987]

I'm gonna agree about the AEM cuz it is the same exact thing for half price. Who cares about opening the hood and seeing Skunk... I mean doesn't skunk shit stink anyway?? lol lol just kidding...

[w00tw00t111]

Yeah deadhead venom makes intakes for the b series engines but, they're $500 bucks. Quite a bit more but, to me it seems like they're engineered very well. They've got runners going into the square/rectangle plenum w/ velocity stacks on them. It seems like they did their homework or at least they did it for the engine that the part was intended for. As for accordtheory's post I've never heard of AIR/endyn/full race manifolds where do you get those minus the full race manifolds b/c I'm assuming you mean scratch/custom built mani's but what about the AIR and endyn where can you buy those and for that matter what are good online car part sources besides inlinefour.com.

Also, what about the plan jane stock ITR manifold? Do a little clean-up port matching would that flow very well?

[Accordtheory]

endyn worked with advanced induction research on that carbon fiber manifold, which is awesome, (well over 1k$) but is no longer available. So now endyn is offering their own fabricated manifolds. The new manifold sold by full race (around 800$, I believe) looks to me like a copy of the AIR in aluminum. I don't know about the venom, but it looks like the GE, and I don't think much of those..but if it has an aerodynamically correct transition into the runners..whatever.
I can't really see myself spending more than about $250 on an intake manifold. I'll probably either end up with the aebs again or the victor x when I get my vtec head..

[gfrg88]

the civic type r is the same as the integra type r right??

[Accordtheory]

the civic type r is the same as the integra type r right??

I don't know, but I wouldn't bet on it..

[Versanick]

Not exactly. Their manifolds probably will flow negligibly differently, though.

Get the BLOX. It flows with the best skunk2 has to offer. Both would be great for n/a.

Nothing will compare with Endyn's stuff, but who has that retarded kind of money? If I were rich, I'd just send the whole motor to Endyn and have them build it.

And definitely get some 4.6L and 5.0L TB's going. that's part of my project for this spring. Though I thought they were all 65mm. Both use .2-5V signal, just as Honda. "But, they wont' necessarily provide the same signal at say, half, as a honda one will, and everything will be thrown off"... If you're upgrading your TB by such a significant amount anyway, I hope you're doing something else to make sure you're running right anyway (i.e. SAFC), and I hope you find the performance benefit that you deserve for your work.

As far as vacuum, making a vacuum box is your best bet. You could buy them (expensive), or fab one. My friend is going to fab me one with 20 vacuum lines, so that I can plug all my vacuums into the vacuum box, and the vacuum blox will pull vacuum from a big tap in the BLOX.

I'm excited.

good luck with your project

[gfrg88]

so my real question is will the civic type r IM need the same work as b18c5?? will it fit the a20 head?? cause im getting one from someone on here

[89T]

i already have the ford setup... so with the stand alone i will have no voltage problems. thats with the ford tb and ford tps.
for vacume the only thing i can think of right now will be the 3 bar map sensor and master cylender.(spelling?)
but that's nothing.
what i am getting at is what ever i do it can be done.
i am also looking to adapt the ford eecIv dizzy on a honda but that will be in time.

[89T]

buy it get the a20 gasket and match it up..if it does match up.
drill holes and port match.

[89T]

bump...
anyone going standalone soon?

[gfrg88]

so no one knows for sure if i just have to drill new holes or what??

[89T]

what engine # is the type r civic? b18c1 b18c5????
if i knew i would post.

[gfrg88]

not sure which one its from, its a b16 something i think

[Accordtheory]

Both use .2-5V signal, just as Honda. "But, they wont' necessarily provide the same signal at say, half, as a honda one will, and everything will be thrown off"...

Even if they did provide the same voltage vs throttle position, that wouldn't mean much, considering how much more air the larger tb would be flowing for that voltage output.

[89T]

it should work.port matching and drilling like 2 new holes.

[Accordtheory]

so no one knows for sure if i just have to drill new holes or what??

Of course someone knows..b16, type r, same thing. yes, you have to drill a few holes..and port match your head's intake ports to the b16/type r gasket. The a20 ports aren't as tall. Not that big of a deal, but will take most of a day to do the swap properly.

[gfrg88]

well i wasnt sure if they were the same, so the si and the type r are basically the same then right?? im still learning lol

[Accordtheory]

"basically", but the manifolds still might be slightly different. The heads might differ as far as chamber size/shape, "factory porting", undercut valve stems, and valve springs. Of course the b16 block, crank, rods and pistons are different, and the b16 block doesn't have a girdle either. I don't know if the ctr or itr heads are the same or have the b16 chambers or the gsr chambers. I want a gsr head for my engine.