Alright assuming i make the leap to OBD-1 to manage fuel, make all appropriate changes as far as that goes, why not go supercharger? i noticed the new Jackson Racing superchargers supposedly are good for 20+ psi without all the exhaust headaches caused by turbochargers...so other than lining up the pulleys, why not supercharge??
Originally Posted by 2drSE-i
its worth a try. if the b16 manifold fits with minor mods you can fit a supercharger.
1989 Honda Accord LX-i
B18c1 swap since 7/2011
175whp and 132tq
Redzone tuned
its been discussed but i dont think anyone has tried it yet
supposedly there is a fear of the pulley hitting the master cylinder. if it would clear youd probably have to get a custom pulley made to get the offset correct along with figuring out how to mount a custom make a tensioner for the extra long belt you will also be needing.
i mean if you could find one used it might be worth a try but new its too much money to then need to modify a bundh of things.
for about the 2000-2500 starting price for the supercharger you can have a decent turbo sytem made up.
superchargers for the win. but it would be a first though. try it
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originally posted by ACCORDEPICENTER
it should be there tuesday... So take your keyboard and wrap it around your neck and hang yourself with the cord.
i see jackson racing setups on ebay all the time for $700, but i think centrifugal setup would gain more power overall.
Alex.
well apparently the old JR superchargers had a problem with the blower leaking oil..so F that haha. the new ones should be fine, but your right, it is alot of money. i just think that the headaches involved are significantly less than those of turbocharging.
a properly set up turbo system will ALWAYS make more power than a supercharger at the same boost level. I have never seen a JR supercharger running over 12psi so im not sure if 20psi is practical or if its possible really
429whp 362wtq A20 TURBO. A20T>*
i realize that.
i thoguht you wanted a b-series engine....maybe wrong guy...
1989 Honda Accord LX-i
B18c1 swap since 7/2011
175whp and 132tq
Redzone tuned
has anyone tried fabbing brackets and mounting a centrifugal s/c on an series?? seems like if you got the belts to work it would be a reliable set-up.
^the new ride^ Mazda rx-7.. gettin 'r done without pistons since 1978
"Spoiler size is inversely proportional to wee-wee size"
the ex - 3rd gen owner
well, depends on the power you want. if you're building to see what's the max power you can push out of the engine, then go turbo. but if you just want more pep for you daily, then sure, why not try a supercharger? then afterwards, you can set up a twin charger set-up.
lol that would mean no pp,cc or ac....no thanks...mine is a dd...not a race car.
1989 Honda Accord LX-i
B18c1 swap since 7/2011
175whp and 132tq
Redzone tuned
welcome to my world..
^the new ride^ Mazda rx-7.. gettin 'r done without pistons since 1978
"Spoiler size is inversely proportional to wee-wee size"
the ex - 3rd gen owner
nice....i bet you get "hella" hp
1989 Honda Accord LX-i
B18c1 swap since 7/2011
175whp and 132tq
Redzone tuned
well, you have to be willing to sacrifice. but yeah, i'm with you. i'm all for power, but i want my creature comforts with it. when i can whip your ass w/ my ac on and you're sweating like a pig in a car that i spent a 1/5 to build of what you bought yours for, then we'll see who has the last laugh.
"hella" hp as you would say is not what n/a rx7's have.
2drse-i, IMO its gonna be your decision whether you want to turbo or s/c, both would need an extensive amount of fabrication it sounds like. supercharging would be more original though
^the new ride^ Mazda rx-7.. gettin 'r done without pistons since 1978
"Spoiler size is inversely proportional to wee-wee size"
the ex - 3rd gen owner
great minds think alike....woot...
1989 Honda Accord LX-i
B18c1 swap since 7/2011
175whp and 132tq
Redzone tuned
My A/C hasn't worked since the shop we took it to didn't have R12 fluid so my dad agreed to let them convert the systemm to R134a or whatever. Bad move. Hasn't worked right for more than 2 months at a time since. We finally gave up taking it in. I'm used to no A/C, especially since in Chicago I'm more worried about the cold and snow anyways and welcome the summer heat. Point is, I've always wondered if it would be possible to simply disconnect all of the A/C components on an A20A3 and use the space where the compressor used to be for a smaller sized centrifugal S/C for some moderate hp gains. Like others I'm not looking for a race car, but just a little more pep and more than anything a fun and interesting project. I love the challenge of a tricky project, and driving it is the sweet reward of a job well done. I was thinking, looking at some peoples turbo set ups and looking at the space in my engine bay, that maybe it could be possible to modify the existing bracket for the A/C compressor and simply mount the S/C there. Then, of course a custom pully would be necessary, but possible. Also, because of where the S/C would sit, it might be possible depending on how the S/C is configured to simply run an intake into the S/C from the driver's side wheel well or bumper. (this would act as a CAI and a short ram because of it's location) Also, from the S/C, again depending on how the S/C is configured, you could run the charged air from the S/C to an intercooler mounted where most of the turbo set ups on here typically do. And from there just follow the line of the normal intake piping back up to the throttle body. Perhaps this is just some crazy stupid idea that I'm willing to share with everyone because it's late and I'm tired from studying all weekend for finals. But who knows... maybe it could work. Any input from the peanut gallery?
And for the record, before everone goes off and says it can't be done and it's not worth it and this project is full of crap and you need to search and blah blah blah, I'd just like to mention that this idea is pure fantasy. Yes I would love to try it. But i have neither the time nor money nor fabbing skills. I have searched before and know all about the difficulties of supercharging an A20, but I've never come across anyone with quite the same idea as this. So please, this idea is meant for discussion and input as a pure fantasy and dream of mine with 99.9999% of never happening, just wanna know what everyone thinks.
Last edited by Shadowkat; 12-10-2006 at 10:52 PM.
The winter beater--I pulled the spoiler off a civic"
JSRC is said to hit the drivers side strut tower and the centrifugal force S/C's cost 5k brand new
ya the centrifugal ones are quite expensive....i have no money for this project but i was just thinking one day lol.
money issues asside. Assuming you won the lottery would the centrifugal s/c mounted where the a/c compressor typically goes ide work do you think? I only suggest this because I too have heard the jackson racing charger wont fit because the strut tower is in the way. So i figured the centrifugal would solve the space issue if one wanted the elusive 3g w/ supercharger.
The winter beater--I pulled the spoiler off a civic"
I thought about building my own s/c running off the a/c pully. I was going to use the shaft from an alt and figure out the fan sizes and pully raitos and all that good stuff. I dont know I might still try it.
Small but effective... 4 ribbed pully comes with.......
http://www.v-performance.com/products.html
that link didn't work for me. could you try posting it again? I'm really intrigued...
Last edited by Shadowkat; 12-12-2006 at 07:38 AM.
The winter beater--I pulled the spoiler off a civic"
Hmm, link works fine for me... here is one for the main page, just click on products then supercharger system. Of course some modification of the carb mount would be in order along with other mods to make it work.....
http://www.v-performance.com
Last edited by Jasonf860; 12-12-2006 at 08:11 AM.
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