Accord Carb Problems , Should I fix or can I swap motors?

[2ndGenGuy]

Man if you were a little closer to Chiliwack, I'd drive out and help ya tomorrow on my way back to Washington. Its a long ferry ride to where you are it looks like though.
And please, the 2nd gen Accord is anything but gay.

A Weber will work my friend, but like I was saying, you'll have to have a custom adapter plate made. I'm sure you can draw one out and have it made for dirt cheap. The easiest thing to do, but maybe expensive would be to remove your intake manifold, and take it and the Weber to a fabricator and have one made, then the rest you just follow the guides on the site.
Who knows though, if your car is only a 2bbl, it may have the same flange for the carb as another Accord or Civic, and there may be an adapter plate that is undocumented that will work jsut fine.

[Ichiban]

I'm sure there is an adapter plate that will work. Those carbs are similar to other 2 and 1gen accord carburetors.

[Holy^ghost]

why not just use the adapter plate that comes with it. just take all the crap off the intake manifold and leave the big square there. the only thing i'm wondering is if the weber uses the same 4 bolt set up. if it does ill be fine.

2 hour ferry actually. it would be fun if you brought your car

MY CAR MAGICALLY WORKS NOW. i have no idea why it wouldn't start yesterday but now it runs better then ever i mean no lag when going from a stop and no stalling. i guess i fixed it.

ok now it works for some weird reason. and not as in it starts but runs crappy i mean like runs. like new theres no more lag in when i accel from a stop and no stalling. i did have the gay ass choke stick on me cause my dad bent the arm on it but i fixed that and now it runs better then ever.

[lostforawhile]

piercemanifolds.com they should have a complete kit for your car with the webber,the manifold adaptor plate,etc.

[2ndGenGuy]

w00t! Nice work man. Sounds like maybe you didn't give the fuel pump enough time to get gas to the engine or something. It can seem to take a long ass time and not start up. Good work. You are now one of the few A16 masters. I think there's only 2 of you. guyhatesmycar being the other.

Pierce manifolds doens't have it for the Canadian models specifically. But that doesn't matter now. Nice work on the fix! Now we need to get you rebuilding the ES2 carbs...

[Holy^ghost]

pffft its time for that A20 swap i wanna do. going to need 600 for the engine and a few more for the ecu and fuel tank

[88Accord-DX]

If you going to do a swap with A20 engine, get a fuel injected one (A20A3) The carbs on the A20A1 are just as much of a Pain In The Ass!

[2ndGenGuy]

Fuel tank? What for?

[Ichiban]

use the external EFI fuel pump from the preludes, like I'm doing.

[2ndGenGuy]

Yeah I was gonna say the EFI pump from an 85 SEi. I know you don't have those up there, but a quick trip across the border should score you one.

[lostforawhile]

If you going to do a swap with A20 engine, get a fuel injected one (A20A3) The carbs on the A20A1 are just as much of a Pain In The Ass!

why don't you get the carb engine and get the webber kit for it from pierce? that way you can just strip everything off of it and start with webbers from scratch. I would still change tanks though,then you can get a decent inline carb pump like a mallory. the pump on the carbs sucks.if you want to go fuel injection and want to upgrade pumps just buy a high performance pump from a different honda. summit racing actually carries a number of high performance fuel injection pumps for honda. I was really suprised to see that venom remans honda pumps to operate better then stock also.

[2ndGenGuy]

2nd Gens already have an inline pump. It's not in the tank, it's mounted in the driver's side, rear wheel well.

[Holy^ghost]

i know thats why if i got an JDM A20A3 i would need a tank from a 86 becuse of the different pumps

ok so after I loosened the throttle cable and gave it some slack. all my car issues disappeared. no stalling and i actually get it to idle at 750RPM without stalling and i have good acceleration now. haha I'm only pulling off idle 750RPM because i have 99,962KM's on it or about 78,000 miles. I am an A16 Master

[Ichiban]

why don't you get the carb engine and get the webber kit for it from pierce? that way you can just strip everything off of it and start with webbers from scratch. I would still change tanks though,then you can get a decent inline carb pump like a mallory. the pump on the carbs sucks.if you want to go fuel injection and want to upgrade pumps just buy a high performance pump from a different honda. summit racing actually carries a number of high performance fuel injection pumps for honda. I was really suprised to see that venom remans honda pumps to operate better then stock also.

You shouldn't have to change tanks to go efi, just add the return line plumbing and you're set.
Also, the canadian A20A4 has slightly more power and less emissions than the USDM counterpart. If you get an A20A1 and go with webber or stock carbs you don't have to change the tank, pump or anything.
BTW the spring/solenoid Mitsubishi fuel pumps on the 2g are a marvel of ingenuity, simplicity and effectiveness.

Glad the rebuild worked out for you.
I see the Messy/Cheese whoring has spread to the 2g section!

[Holy^ghost]

what do you mean. will my car blow up err i hate when that happens, happened to my mustang

[Holy^ghost]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onujMwkBLr0

yes this is a video of my car accelerating from 100 to 180K going uphill and with 3 people to boot. I love my car. the video was done on a cell phone so its kinda crappy but look at the fence and the other cars on the other side whipping by.

before I rebuilt the carb it could only do 140KPH up this highway and with only 2 people in the car. but thats how much of a difference it can make. no real performance parts just a fairly new A16A engine a strait pipe with no cat (legal in my city) and a K and N air filter.
when i mean fairly new I mean 110,000K on the engine.

[Ichiban]

180 KPH? My 82 was screaming at 150, you must have some pretty tall gears.

[Holy^ghost]

it was screaming at the begging but then it shifted to fourth. and yes the tranny was rebuilt it has some hard kick when it shifts. there fairly tall it accels pretty slow and takes up to 140 before it shifts to 3rd/4th

[2ndGenGuy]

Man my 1.8 just about tops out there. Haven't tried a top speed run since rejetting though. That auto box gearing must be pretty good. Is that as fast as it can go?

And do you have a black steering wheel? I forgot what those wheels looked like, since I put the 3gee wheel in my car...

[Holy^ghost]

well the steering wheel is blue but i guess its worn out cause the outer part wear your hands go is greenish

I dunno what it tops out at but it was only at 4000RPM going that fast. plus i couldn't accelerate anymore cause of some dumb truck in my way but it might push to 200K if i have no one in the car with me and going on flat road maybe downhill i can push 220

[smufguy]

Dont get me wrong, but why is 111mph that fascinating?

[Holy^ghost]

hey when i do the A2A4 swap i bet my 2g will own your 3g

[MessyHonda]

lol a20a4 does not have emissions stuff...but it wont make it mindblowing fast.

[Boltgunner]

3 BBL carb is on CVCC...You may have just the 2 BBL carb...

After trying to learn all about the eight or so emissions subsystems on the 84 Accord CVCC, as soon as Texas quits sniffing the car I wanna go to the Weber and toss all the hoses, solenoids, relays, etc. Plus the Colt Cam treatment. But, the 2 liter hop to the A20 calls to me, IF I could get a handle on what kind of HP it could make BEFORE I start collecting money and parts...

[Holy^ghost]

hey guys I'm back since I'm taking auto shop i have time to fix my ride. and i was wondering were the hell i could find a carburetor for my gay car being that it has the 1.6L engine that was available in Canada. there are none at the dealer ship and the ones in the junk yard are all 1.8 and for some odd reason 2.0. so someone help me find a place to find a carburetor for this car please.