DIY:10.2" rotors and calipers (Bolt on Mod)

[Legend_master]

would the washer trick work to correct the offset?

Honestly I dont know, that would all have to be trial and error . For all I know it could bolt up perfectly with no offset issues.

well, this is bad news for the legend calipers bolt on mod..

If there's a 1/2" space between the rotor and caliper then an 11" rotor wouldn't be a problem but the brake pads wouldn't cover the entire wear surface of the rotor, the inner part of the rotor wouldn't be in contact with any of the pad, so we would need other pads which should be longer towards the center of the disc. But that kinda seems like a long shot to find pads like that...

That is what I was thinking. You would still be getting the same amount of pad to surface area as the legend does, but there would still be that small amount of space that doesnt get touched. Like I said in an earlier post, the NSX has 11" rotors so I wonder if those pads would work. The 90-91 NSX share a few parts with the 88-89 Legend and I wonder if the pads or pads and calipers will fit.

[Legend_master]

i just took a look at the GSR kit and it is nuts...12" rotors up front, 11" in the rear, and your saying everything would bolt up perfectly save minor offset issues? btw, fastbrakes is offering a 13" brake upgrade for our cars....no information provided on it at all, it just says 6 piston wilwood caliper on 13" drilled and slotted rotors for 88-89 accord lxi

I am not sure about the rear, but yes the front would bolt up. As for the fastbrakes, he is using the measurement from oldblueaccord and my setup to figure out what wilwood kit to use.

[2drSE-i]

I am not sure about the rear, but yes the front would bolt up. As for the fastbrakes, he is using the measurement from oldblueaccord and my setup to figure out what wilwood kit to use.

ill wait for more devolopments from you buddy, ill have to come check everything out soon. my sway bars and suspension bushings will be here by february according to summit....im so excited

[thegreatdane]

Legend (88.9mm x 47.4mm x 14.6mm):


NSX:





I think we can count the nsx ones out.

[Legend_master]

Legend (88.9mm x 47.4mm x 14.6mm):

NSX:

I think we can count the nsx ones out.

Damn, what about the second gen Legend 91-95. Do you ahve any pictures fo those? I need to look around, but there are some SUV's by honda that have 11" rotors in the rear.

[Legend_master]

Ok I actually found it through trial an error.
G3 Legend (USA RL)
(88.9 x 47.4 x 15.4) 11" rotors

G2 Legend 11" rotors
(88.9 x 47.4 x 15.4)

G1 Legend 10.3" rotors
(88.9mm x 47.4mm x 14.6mm)

[thegreatdane]

hehe you found your way to the catalogue although it's in danish huh

there's also these, they are for 1g legends built in the UK (85.2 x 62.2 x 14.5mm):



If they can hang on the bracket although they are a slight bit more narrow they might be good. You would just have to cut that flappy thing off and remove the wires... Those were the best ones I could find after looking through all of these: http://www.blackdiamondperformance.c...apes_07_05.pdf

[Legend_master]

hehe you found your way to the catalogue although it's in danish huh
there's also these, they are for 1g legends built in the UK (85.2 x 62.2 x 14.5mm):

I had trouble figuring out which one said brake system . So 47.4 is the height of the pad correct? If so I checked every Honda and could not find one that would work. I just wonder how they use the same size pad for an 11" rotor as they do for a 10.3" rotor. the Only difference between the generation of legends is the thickness of the pad.

[thegreatdane]

edited my post above a little.

I believe they can use the same pad on different rotors because the recessed part of the rotors has different diameters which means the the wear surface hight of the disc is still the same. For some reason they might have made larger flanges on the hubs on some of the models which would require the rotors to be larger diameter on the recessed part that goes over the flange. But i'm just guessing.

[thegreatdane]

I had trouble figuring out which one said brake system

lol yea I could imagine so

[Legend_master]

edited my post above a little.
I believe they can use the same pad on different rotors because the recessed part of the rotors has different diameters which means the the wear surface hight of the disc is still the same. For some reason they might have made larger flanges on the hubs on some of the models. But i'm just guessing.

Those 827 rovers were a knock off of the G1 Legend. I know of some in the junkyard I think i might check out the pads next time I am there. It looks like the rover pad is 4MM shorter in length then the Legend pads. that might lead to wobbling or moving back and forth.

[thegreatdane]

Those 827 rovers were a knock off of the G1 Legend. I know of some in the junkyard I think i might check out the pads next time I am there. It looks like the rover pad is 4MM shorter in length then the Legend pads. that might lead to wobbling or moving back and forth.

Yea they were made by another manufacturer (Lucas).
But cool if you have those rovers over there too! About the width, it depends on where they measure the width of the pads. the total width might be diff but the width minus the mounting ears might be the same. if we're lucky lol
It would be cool if you could find those in the JY, we dont have any of those rovers or legends at the junkers around here.

[Legend_master]

Yea they were made by another manufacturer (Lucas).
But cool if you have those rovers over there too! About the width, it depends on where they measure the width of the pads. the total width might be diff but the width minus the mounting ears might be the same. if we're lucky lol
It would be cool if you could find those in the JY, we dont have any of those rovers or legends at the junkers around here.

We have lots of legends here in the JY, but I have only seen to Sterling/rovers in the JY around my town (i know of one that is completely untouched). I will keep everybody up to date.

[thegreatdane]

best of luck on your search

[Legend_master]

Ok I tried to fit the EP3 civic caliper bracket on the SE-i Hub and it was to wide, but just for reference the 89 Legend Caliper will fit onto the EP3 bracket I am going to try the EP3 caliper on the legend bracket tomorrow.

[Legend_master]

Ok I ordered the 11" rear rotor for the 99 Civic Si. It is actually a replacement rotor for a big brake kit. Theoretically this should bolt in perfectly with the Legend caliper. I will let you guys know how it works when the rotor arrives. If this works then we will have an bolt on 11" rotor upgrade, I know the pad will not extend all the way down, but I will have to figure that one out.

[Legend_master]

Man you guys are going to love me. Check this out 11" rear rotor bolt on mod.





This area needs to be shaved down a little.

[EricW]

Hmmm. I might just have to get me a set of those calipers instead of redrilling the brackets from the AEM kit.

[Legend_master]

Hmmm. I might just have to get me a set of those calipers instead of redrilling the brackets from the AEM kit.

It is purely bolt on, all you have to do is shave the inside of the brake caliper bracket. When I finish filing the inside of the bracket I will make an 11" rotor thread.

[MessyHonda]

just hope it does not lock up the rears....i just did my se-i swap and the brakes feel more responsive...i like to lock em up in the rain...soo fun.

[race12001]

messy how hard is the se-i swap

[MessyHonda]

messy how hard is the se-i swap

it was easy....3 hours top...only hard part was puting in the ebrake lines cuz you have to drop the exhaust and heatshield...i also put SS lines but on the rear one did not work...i still got to call up the place where i got them from.

[Legend_master]

just hope it does not lock up the rears....i just did my se-i swap and the brakes feel more responsive...i like to lock em up in the rain...soo fun.

I dont think locking up will be to much of a problem. I guess I will not know untill it is installed.

[88Accord-DX]

Shave? Do you mean pencil grind that caliper with a small bit..(edit) I mean mounting bracket for the caliper.

Looks pretty good.

[Legend_master]

Shave? Do you mean pencil grind that caliper with a small bit..

Looks pretty good.

Just a hand file, it was only a small bit of metal that needed to be removed. I installed the bracket and the rotors then turned the rotor to find out where it was rubbing. I ground off all the areas that touched the rotor. Now everything works perfectly. I will take pictures and do an entire DIY when I get the other rotor.