11" REAR rotors + Bigger Calipers

[guaynabo89]

quick question for you Legend (its been too many years since I tried to remember) The Legend caliper on the sei bracket hits by how much?

[Legend_master]

quick question for you Legend (its been too many years since I tried to remember) The Legend caliper on the sei bracket hits by how much?

If you check the thread for that one, I outlined where it hits. The hub portion of the rotor contacts on the prongs(of the caliper) that come out to hold the outer pad in place, and the piston impacts the bracket itself.

[SQ is the SQUAD]

i am going to jump in on this. if you need parts let me know. going to star orderingt my parts asap

[SQ is the SQUAD]

one more question. why are there two different part numbers for the rotors. are the l and r because of the drill/slot pattern?


i looked these up on ebay, are all of them dual piston?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Centr...Q5fAccessories

[turabaka]

The legend calipers are not dual piston if that's what you're asking. They're just a bigger single piston caliper than the stock se-i caliper.

[SQ is the SQUAD]

ok i kinda realized that after i searched around some pics. i am going to order the 99-00 si 11" rear powerslot rotors, if i wanted to get the matching powerslots forthe front, can i order the 99=00 si ones? i know they have the 4x100 bolt pattern. not sure if everythnig else is lined up

[Legend_master]

Yeah the rotors have different numbers cause the direction of the slots on the rotor. I'm pretty sure the front power slots are 12", so I'm not sure what caliper you plan on running in the front.

[SQ is the SQUAD]

crapie, i was going to use the 90 legend rotors all around. well thise weekend ill go to the junkyard am take a closer look at some things. do both cars have the same size brake booster and master cylender. i belive the legend is a 1" i dont remember what my lxi had.

[turabaka]

crapie, i was going to use the 90 legend rotors all around. well thise weekend ill go to the junkyard am take a closer look at some things. do both cars have the same size brake booster and master cylender. i belive the legend is a 1" i dont remember what my lxi had.

Don't forget that legend's are five lug. So if you want to use legend rotors on the front you'll have to redrill them to 4x100

[Sickest3G]

Sounds like a solid plan. I'm gonna try this setup too cause my rear rotors look tiny behind my 17's and I could damn sure use more braking power in the rear. The front lock up too quick. Btw....I found a 4 dr se-i @ a jy in st.petersburg fl. If anyone is interested pm me and I'll let you know where its @. But I got the cup holder armrest and brake prop valve that I needed out of it. I've been waiting for 6 yrs to find another se-i to get the prop valve out of it so my advice would be to get the prop valve too when pulling the rear disk setup from one.

[SQ is the SQUAD]

sickest u could of got the proportion valve out of just about any 93 integra. as long as it stamped 40/40. most of them are.

the 90 legends i belive are 4x114.3 which will still have to be redrilled. i understand that. not reallt a problem.

[VIPER1988]

Sounds like a solid plan. I'm gonna try this setup too cause my rear rotors look tiny behind my 17's and I could damn sure use more braking power in the rear. The front lock up too quick. Btw....I found a 4 dr se-i @ a jy in st.petersburg fl. If anyone is interested pm me and I'll let you know where its @. But I got the cup holder armrest and brake prop valve that I needed out of it. I've been waiting for 6 yrs to find another se-i to get the prop valve out of it so my advice would be to get the prop valve too when pulling the rear disk setup from one.

where is this jy and what is it called?

[Legend_master]

SQ i don't understand what you are trying to do. This mod is for the rear rotors just to clarify. You are right about the 1G legends they are 4x114, and still need to be redrilled. That is ONLY for the Front, the rear legend rotors will not work at all. They are 10.3" or something like that, I tried a combination of brackets, rotors, and calipers from many different cars and this setup was the only one that looked do-able. Oh and no clue on the booster, I would imagine it was larger, and I know for sure the later legends had a huge brake booster.

[SQ is the SQUAD]

ok i was looking through my accord stuff today and my stock master cylender was a 15/16. so i am def going to try to retrofit the 90 legend brake booster, 1" master cylender, and maybe the clutch master and hydro pedal assembly.

isent this thread about building a 11" rear disc brake setup using the 90 legend set up with the power slot rotors for the 00 si? well i am trying to do the front and rear 11" so from your other thread wouldent the 11" front legen setup work also?

whilke cleaning my shed today i came accross some 2g eclipse/talon dual piston calipers i had from my old galant. i am going to go over the brackets and see if theres anything usualbe for our front setup

[cygnus x-1]

For front brake upgrades see this:

http://forums.honda-tekh.com/zerothread?id=2439

The front 3g Accord spindles are (I believe) essentially equivalent to the Civic EX knuckles. So to fit 11" rotors in the front you need to use the ITR type caliper/bracket/pads with redrilled 96 Prelude Vtec rotors. The ITR calipers are pretty common. Donors to look for are:
97-01 Integra R, 97-99 CL, 95-98 TL 5cyl, 92-94 Vigor, 91-97 Accord, 97-01 CRV, 95-98 Odyssey, and 97-01 Prelude.
You want the calipers marked 17CL15V and the bracket marked 23T. The 2g Legend calipers will work but need to be swapped left to right because the bleeders are upside down. Anyway it's all in the table.


Unfortunately the rears are a tougher nut to crack because the Civics and Integras use a different caliper bracket to hub bolt spacing, so the rear brake chart in that thread mostly doesn't apply. So the only known (to me anyway) upgrade option is the 1g Legend caliper + Powerslop rotors. Although I wonder if maybe a 2g Legend caliper bracket might get you a little more clearance than the 1g bracket, since the 2g Legend had 11" rear rotors instead of 10.2". IDK.


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[Sickest3G]

I sure wish i would have known that beforehand. Well whats important is that i finally got it and even better if this 11" rotor mod works i WILL be doing this mod next. But first...




An F250 bumped me in the rear 2 months after my engine rebuild (https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthrea...=1#post1023276) but i got 3k for the damages so next weekend my baby will be going in for a cosmetic over haul and will be back in a fresh coat of black. The last thing I did to it was install a race cat w/ 2.25" piping to the dual canister dual 3" tips....and it sounds so mean!

sickest u could of got the proportion valve out of just about any 93 integra. as long as it stamped 40/40. most of them are.

the 90 legends i belive are 4x114.3 which will still have to be redrilled. i understand that. not reallt a problem.

[SQ is the SQUAD]

i actually already have actual type r front calipers and brackets. i got them when i was converting my integra to 5 lug. good thing i kept them. will the frint type r setup fit 12" powerslot rotors without modification?

[Legend_master]

i actually already have actual type r front calipers and brackets. i got them when i was converting my integra to 5 lug. good thing i kept them. will the frint type r setup fit 12" powerslot rotors without modification?

No, the front type R calipers will only work with 11" rotors.

[SQ is the SQUAD]

well i wanted to do 11 and 11, i just dident want the mitch match rotors. hmmm, ill see what i can come up with

[Legend_master]

well i wanted to do 11 and 11, i just dident want the mitch match rotors. hmmm, ill see what i can come up with

Just get slotted rotors for the front. The powerslot rotors are just coated that color. They will look like regular metal after about 1000 miles or so. The guy at fast brakes sells a kit to make 12" up front. You could see if he would just sell you the calipers, and any brackets that are required. Not 100% sure that would even work tho.

[SQ is the SQUAD]

o looked at what was supposed to be my type r calipers and brackets but the brackets where marked 25t

[cygnus x-1]

o looked at what was supposed to be my type r calipers and brackets but the brackets where marked 25t

The bracket number indicates the rotor width they were designed for. 23T would be for 23mm rotors. 25T would be for 25mm rotors. The 11" Prelude rotors are 23mm but a 25T bracket would work. The only issue is if the bracket is too wide, the pads could slip out from the bracket if they get worn down enough. But as long as you check the pads occasionally that shouldn't be a big issue.


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[SQ is the SQUAD]

are there any non hub over rotors that are 11" 25mm wide?

[Legend_master]

are there any non hub over rotors that are 11" 25mm wide?

Huh?

[SQ is the SQUAD]

some accords take sertin rotors where the wheel hub actually mounts over the rotor. i am trying to figure out what rotor is 11", 25mm thick, that is non hub over rotor