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    Wikipedia Comment on A-series Motor + Turbo

    From Wikipedia...Most upgrades and modifications to the A-series engines are of the DIY variety, with one of the more popular being a turbo set-up. Because of their closed-deck iron block design, they're especially well-suited for handling boost.

    Anyone have some knowlege regarding A20s + a turbo?



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    Re: Wikipedia Comment on A-series Motor + Turbo

    for you it would not be an option unless you have a carb suck thru design

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    Re: Wikipedia Comment on A-series Motor + Turbo

    Or if you bought a Demon blow through carb! They're completely sealed to handle boost.

    BAM! http://www.barrygrant.com/news/artic...oduct_015.aspx

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    Re: Wikipedia Comment on A-series Motor + Turbo

    I musta bumped my head just thinking this was a neat idea - when I saw what a TC cost on Summit I gagged.

    OK, so slight subject change - what is the most HP you probably could see outta an A20, and what would it take (W/O the TC) to get there?

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    Re: Wikipedia Comment on A-series Motor + Turbo

    remember horsepower is not cheap.

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    Re: Wikipedia Comment on A-series Motor + Turbo

    Yeah, I didn't have a clue how much dinero it took to turbo up...

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    Re: Wikipedia Comment on A-series Motor + Turbo

    Quote Originally Posted by Boltgunner
    Yeah, I didn't have a clue how much dinero it took to turbo up...

    Well you could convert to FI injection and upgrade to and OBD-1 setup. Then turbo that motor. I would also recomend a rebuild of the motor. I noticed you are in Texas, how close to the DFW are you?

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    Re: Wikipedia Comment on A-series Motor + Turbo

    I live in Friendswood, about 20 miles SE of downtown Houston.

    I think I will likely keep an eye out for an 86 - 89 motor that I can add the Colt cam and the Weber to. Would like to find a good engine shop in TX to blueprint everything. Don't really know what the motor will deliver with Weber/Colt/blueprint/Pacesetter header/mandrel-bent exhaust, but it will likely stomp the 86 HP I have now. And I can hurl that mess of hoses and that carb from hell in a box for someone to recycle for scrap.

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    Re: Wikipedia Comment on A-series Motor + Turbo

    Quote Originally Posted by Boltgunner
    I musta bumped my head just thinking this was a neat idea - when I saw what a TC cost on Summit I gagged.
    OK, so slight subject change - what is the most HP you probably could see outta an A20, and what would it take (W/O the TC) to get there?

    Out of an 84, about 10.
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    Re: Wikipedia Comment on A-series Motor + Turbo

    Quote Originally Posted by Bglad420
    Out of an 84, about 10.

    What? 10 horsepower from an 84? I think he was asking about that engine you've got int your car, the A20. I don't his car will affect the power output from the engine.


    What's great about the A20 swap in the 2g Accords is that they are much lighter than the 3g. The power gains from the A20, plus mods, will be felt better in the 2g than they would be in the 3g.

    Not 100% sure what exactly you'll be running. You'll be lucky with a single Weber, I'd guess, to hit 120-125whp. But that would be a pretty damn quick 2g Accord!

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    Re: Wikipedia Comment on A-series Motor + Turbo

    A20A3 has 110 crank HP thats FI, a carb only has like 95 crank, thats about 80 Whp, with a weber about 85. not 120.
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    Re: Wikipedia Comment on A-series Motor + Turbo

    110 on a fuel injected motor? Why does everybody keep saying 125?

    There is no way a stock A20 puts down 80whp.

    My car puts down 76whp. That's a real dyno run. My carb was COMPLETELY untuned at the time, and tired with 275,000 miles on it, and plenty of blow-by.
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    Re: Wikipedia Comment on A-series Motor + Turbo

    A18A1 1.8 12V SOHC Dual Sidedraft 1829 100hp@5500rpm 107tq@4000rpm '87 Prelude (USA)
    A20A1 2.0 12V SOHC 2bbl Carb 1955 98hp@5500rpm 109tq@3500rpm '87-'89 Accord DX/LX (USA)

    A20A3 2.0 12V SOHC PGM-FI 1955 110hp@5500rpm 114tq@4500rpm '87 Accord LX-i (USA)
    A20A3 2.0 12V SOHC PGM-FI 1955 120hp@5500rpm ?? '88-'89 Accord LX-i (USA)

    EK1 (2V) 1.8 8V SOHC 3bbl Carb 1751 72hp@4500rpm 94tq@3000rpm '79-'81 Accord (USA)
    '79-'91 Prelude (USA)
    EK1 (4V) 1.8 8V SOHC 3bbl Carb 1751 75hp@4500rpm 96tq@3000rpm '82-'83 Accord (USA)
    '82 Prelude (USA)
    ES2 1.8 12V SOHC 3bbl Carb 1829 86hp@5800rpm 99tq@3500rpm '84 - '85 Accord (USA)
    ES3 1.8 12V SOHC PGM-FI 1829 101hp@5800rpm 108tq@2500rpm '85 Accord SE-i (USA)
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    Re: Wikipedia Comment on A-series Motor + Turbo

    So what you're saying is that chart is inaccurate?

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    Re: Wikipedia Comment on A-series Motor + Turbo

    From what I understand:
    -86 BT-1, 87 A20A3, 110 hp
    -88-89 A20A3, 120 hp
    -A20A4, 124 hp
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    Re: Wikipedia Comment on A-series Motor + Turbo

    Quote Originally Posted by guyhatesmycar
    From what I understand:
    -86 BT-1, 87 A20A3, 110 hp
    -88-89 A20A3, 120 hp
    -A20A4, 124 hp

    something like that

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    Re: Wikipedia Comment on A-series Motor + Turbo

    Near term, I want to dump all of the hoses/firewall box/clicking clacking stuff and lay on the Weber.
    Then add the Colt cam.
    Wondering what the ES2 with these goodies plus my Pacestter header will bump the 86 HP to...
    Also, what would the HP be for a blueprinted A20 with Colt/Weber DGEV/Pacesetter?
    2.5G's are very light!
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    Re: Wikipedia Comment on A-series Motor + Turbo

    Well I think if you want the extra HP, go with the DGAS. It's a bit easier to tune by the looks of it. It's 2 38mm barrels.

    I think a 38mm Weber can produce as much power as a fuel injected motor if it's tuned properly and you have a good flowing exhaust. Note that the fuel injected motors come with good flowing exhaust systems, compared to the factory carb'd systems.

    Also, if you were to cam it, I think you could get a few hp more than a stock FI motor.

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