"I'm not going to have the engine fixed since the labor is too expensive for changing a head gasket."
its worth a shot that or the jay yard.
wp
"I'm not going to have the engine fixed since the labor is too expensive for changing a head gasket."
its worth a shot that or the jay yard.
wp
Ok. I think I have some good news.
After scratching my head for a week and the leak seemed to comes and goes, I finally see what's happening. The leak has been very bad today and I brought me extra water just in case. After some driving and back home, I parked the car. Opened the engine hood with engine running, no leak noted. Then turned off the engine and in a few seconds, I saw coolant shoot out from one short hose somewhere near the thermostat housing and connects to the "+" fitting. So, I found the weakest link. Am goin' to replace all the hoses there and see what happen. Glad this is not the head gasket....
Yeah its after you shut the car off the temp goes up and so does the pressure for a short time. Afterboil.
Glad its something easy.
wp
Yup - sounds like my car - I bet your "+" is rusted thru and leaking. That and my water inlet pipe were both rusted thru. You might as well replace all those small heater hoses. I used 5/16" rubber fuel line hose - cheap at the hardware store. You'll need about 4 feet to replace all of them in a FI car. There's a couple that are a bugger - like the one from the water inlet pipe nearest the water pump to the underside of the intake manif. But if you are replacing the water inlet pipe you have to remove that one anyway.Originally Posted by AC439
The "+" is about $11 from an internet dealer. I even re-used most of the orig. hose clamps. Also a good time to replace you PCV since it's tucked in next to one of these hoses.
I've replaced these hoses on a few accords. Don't have to drain all your antifreeze either.
hers's a parts diagram - http://www.hondapartsunlimited.com/s...temcomp=Engine
- #1 is the "+" and #12 is the water inlet pipe, and the 5/16" hoses are #13-25 (except 18,19 are large hoses).
mike
Thanks guys !
Finally I got a chance to work on the car today. Took off the air intake plastic pipe (Fuel Inj engine) so I could get to the hoses easier. I took the "+" off and replaced the two bigger ones (I used 1/2" hose) and the two smaller ones (5/16" hoses). The other smaller hoses under the intake are too hard to reach so I checked them and found them to be in good shape so I didn't replace them. Only replaced the 4 hoses connect to the "+". I figured out if the other smaller hoses start to go, the "+" assembly should not be in their way and I can replace them later. When I was trying to take apart the two big hoses at the "+", I ended up cut them off so I can get to the clamp easier. The broken one was the top big hose. The bottom one is also very soft to touch and is in bad shape. The two smaller ones are in good shape but I changed them anyway.
At least I now have my car back to working condition. I was thinking about maybe its time to get myself in a new debt (a newer car).
Thinking of moving up to an 89 3gee? new cars aren't all they're cracked up to be....esp that payment, and insurance. But what do I know - never had one - got better things to do with my pennies.....like buy more used 3geez for a couple hundred bucks and fix them up....Originally Posted by AC439
Originally Posted by vongiese
yeah...its cheap to maintain a 3gee...my friend that works with me bought a 21k dodge truck...she still owes 17k and she has no money for tires so she has a spare...i was like wow...get something smaller like mine...and she started to laugh and said i dont want a bucket.....then i started to laugh and said....at least mine is paid for....
1989 Honda Accord LX-i
B18c1 swap since 7/2011
175whp and 132tq
Redzone tuned
Yep, I can't stand a new car payment either. I don't understand why there are so many people driving SUVs on the road. Either they are too rich or they have debts up to their eyebrow. Glad that my car is now fixed so I can still use it. Have 241k miles on it and still goes strong. The only problem is the car is very low and every other car blinds me with their headlights.Originally Posted by MessyHonda
I agree it is relatively cheap to maintain a 3g. I have no problems working on my car except on some very tight spaces. I still haven't work on the inside of engine block yet. I think this is beyond my ability. Other than that, the car seems to be able to run forever.Originally Posted by MessyHonda
Originally Posted by AC439
well after i got my rear windows tinted it solved that problem...but if its head on you are screwed anyways...i just look at the lower right hand line when big or cars with bright lights passes me.
1989 Honda Accord LX-i
B18c1 swap since 7/2011
175whp and 132tq
Redzone tuned
Well....I have some bad news but kind of expected. Today, I parked in the office parking lot and there was steam coming from the engine bay. Opened the hood and definitely smelled the distinct coolant burning. Not a lot of coolant lost but only a few drops on the ground. Rechecked the coolant level after car has cooled down and it was an inch below the high mark in the bottle and still almost full at radiator. So I took a chance to drive home after work (18 miles one trip no traffic). When I came home, definitely more coolant spilling out. This time it is the small coolant hose under the intake manifold. Now the car is too low on coolant so I'm not driving it until I have time to replace the hose. The weakest link came after the previous one was fixed, exactly like last time.
Well, I know the small hoses under the intake manifold is kind of difficult to change but just got to do it sometime. If anyone has any good suggestions on the easiest way to change the small hoses, please let me know. I have a 86LXi.
I also wonder if the radiator cap has something to do with it. If the pressure to open to overflow tank is too high, it will causes hoses to burst, right?
Thanks.
Last edited by AC439; 03-10-2007 at 05:48 PM.
Replace all those hoses - they are past their service life and you'll likely have trouble with the ones that are not currently leaking. be done with it and replace them ALL. They can be a pain cause they are in some tight places, but it can be done. If the cap is old - just replace it as cheap insurance... they are cheap $5-$10. Also - I've found - if you are going to replace the hose clamps with screw type - get ones with hex heads and use a nut driver, but just snug them down - don't over tighten .Originally Posted by AC439
mike
Well, I am resurrecting my own thread after 6 and 1/2 years of this repair.
Today the car overheated again and the car gave me the infamous coolant steam water fountain show. I rode the AAA tow truck home. After refilling with plain water and connecting the bicycle pump to the overflow connection on the radiator neck, I pumped it up and water shoot out from the top hose connected to the "+". The hose was brittle and hard and just falling apart when I took it off. Upon close inspection of the markings on the hose, it was a fuel line !
I thought fuel line is the strongest material and wasn't aware it is not designed for heat. So I shoot myself on the foot and have to replace all 5/16 hoses again !
At least, the repair held up for 6 1/2 years with fuel lines as coolant hoses. For those bigger hoses I replaced, I used coolant hose and they are still soft to the touch today. But all those smaller hoses that I replaced with fuel lines, they are hard.
Hope this helps anyone that is going to replace the small hoses.
AC
I cannot believe I am resurrecting my own thread once again after 5 and a 1/2 years.....
Drove the accord to work Saturday morning. After 2 miles, I watched the temp gauge shooting up the roof quickly so I pulled into the parking lot of a supermarket. After car parked, I saw smoke coming out of the engine and coolant all over the place.....
Man ! glad we have modern day apps and company like Uber/AAA and they are readily available so I hired an Uber to work. Then I hired Uber again back to the supermarket after work and ordered AAA (again using their app). The AAA tow truck came not too long after and the driver opened the engine hood and looked around (he insisted to help). This time is the hose between the "+" and the thermostat housing.
The smaller hoses are fine and holding up (I used silicone hose). The bigger one is the 1/2 inch generic heater hose I bought from autopart store.
1988 Lxi owner since August 1995
336k miles running strong!
Now running E85.
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I got rid of half of mine so /shrug
Originally posted by ShiRen:
Nice car or not, nobody likes losing a race to an old 4 door Honda.
Dr_Snooz
"I like to take hammers, and just break stuff, just break stuff." - Beavis
1989 Honda Accord LX-i Coupe, 240k miles, MT swap, rear disc swap
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