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    Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    I need to replace my brake pads, rotors and fluid, please help me out on which kind to get and where can i get them for all 3 and are they easy to change yourself?
    P.S. Can anyone help me out with pics or a video on how to replace the brake pads and rotors? I have an 89 Accord DX
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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    Please help im going to change all these in a couple of days and need to the right things to get.
    EDIT: i read the slotted rotors thread and read that dot 4 is good? i thought dot 4 or 3 were bad? and are duralast brake pads and rotors good?
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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    36 views and no one posted!? come on help me out please.

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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    You probably don't need anything more than stock, so I'd imagine autozone brand will be fine. If you want, spend more money and get some better pads (ebc, hawk, etc). If you're just replacing rotors and pads, you don't really have to change fluid, though it's probably a good idea.

    Try searching, too. That should yield some decent results.

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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    I do not recommend DOT 4 for your stock set up

    When that is used, it is best to be starting with a complete high performance upgrade with all new parts because the two different fluids do not mix well.

    DOT 3 is fine

    You do not need drilled rotors either, that is for sport driving in mountainous areas and speeds such as over 90 mph. Also for Police or taxi cab use.

    General instructions for ANY kind of vehicle with Disc brakes will be a good reference for you, Honda did not re-invent the wheel... err disc brake...with 3rd gen Accords.

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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    DOT 3 and DOT 4 are fine to mix. They are both glycol based fluids. DOT 5 (silicone) is the one you can't mix. I have used the Valvoline Synthetic fluid for YEARS and have never rebuilt anything on my brake system.

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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    Quote Originally Posted by roodoo2
    I do not recommend DOT 4 for your stock set up
    When that is used, it is best to be starting with a complete high performance upgrade with all new parts because the two different fluids do not mix well.
    DOT 3 is fine
    You do not need drilled rotors either, that is for sport driving in mountainous areas and speeds such as over 90 mph. Also for Police or taxi cab use.
    General instructions for ANY kind of vehicle with Disc brakes will be a good reference for you, Honda did not re-invent the wheel... err disc brake...with 3rd gen Accords.

    when i swaped my breaks and lines i put in some dot 4 fluid. the SS lines make the diference...on my dx the breaks feel mushy and on the lx-i they grab fine...i just need to figure out the rear calipers i think one is seased up

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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    ok to clarify im just replacing pads and rotors and need to know what fluid to use so dot 3 is good for my stock setup. Now to save me 30mins. of driving i need to know how to replace my rotors and pads. I have the stock drums in the rear how do i change those? Pics would be really great step by step pics so i can see where the screws and bolts are the manual is confusing to look at and only shows the drums not anything around it. I read the manual for replacing the front and rear and im confused on where the bolts are and what order to take them out and also one more thing how do i change my fluid?
    P.S. sorry im being so pushy or impatient with the replies but i need to know asap so i can convince my dad to let me do it, plus i want do it myself so i can learn. I love to do things myself i feel almost proud of myself if it goes right.
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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    Quote Originally Posted by DBMaster
    DOT 3 and DOT 4 are fine to mix. They are both glycol based fluids. DOT 5 (silicone) is the one you can't mix. I have used the Valvoline Synthetic fluid for YEARS and have never rebuilt anything on my brake system.
    That is what I was thinking about , I dont know why I said DOT 4

    As for mixing silicone, some may have been lucky and had no revealed issues with it. Just when I am trying to give a safe spread of advise to someone I prefer to go by guidelines that lessen the chance of problems that could come back to me.

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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    Quote Originally Posted by roodoo2
    That is what I was thinking about , I dont know why I said DOT 4
    As for mixing silicone, some may have been lucky and had no revealed issues with it. Just when I am trying to give a safe spread of advise to someone I prefer to go by guidelines that lessen the chance of problems that could come back to me.
    So dont use dot 4 use dot 3?

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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    if you are going to flush the system might as well get dot 4. thats if you know how to blead the system properly or have the right tools

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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    Quote Originally Posted by MessyHonda
    if you are going to flush the system might as well get dot 4. thats if you know how to blead the system properly or have the right tools
    Could you tell me how to drain the system? i read in the manual how to remove the air from the system and where would i dispose of it?

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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    You can't drain it, just use a turkey baster to suck the fluid out of the reservoir, fill it with new fluid then bleed the new fluid through.

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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    Why are you changing fluid? Did you boil it? Or do you just assume that you need to? Like I said before, a rotor/pad swap does not require any opening of the brake system. Given your inexperience, I wouldn't mess with changing fluid--just get your pads and rotors swapped.

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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    ok thx for the advice i'll just top off the fluid but what i really need to know to save me the 30min trip like i said before is how to change the pads and front rotors. Step by step instruction and tools required would be greatly apreciated.

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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    Why does searching or reading the manual you have require a 30min trip?

    You'll need a c-clamp to push the piston back into the caliper. Also, if your brakes haven't been replaced before there'll be two philips screws that are basically frozen into the caliper. You might need an impact driver to get those out. Make sure you have something like pb blaster on hand.

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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    well my dad wants me to take it to this guy we know and hes by where i work and thats on the east side of town which is 30min away depending on traffic. I just need step by step instructions on how to change the pads and rotors, i read the manual and searched the threads they werent much help but i found out a little bit. If you got pics step by step that would be greatly apreciated. Now can someone please type up a quick step by step guide i can follow to do this?

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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    Buy a manual.

    Seriously.

    And if someone else is doing the work, why do you need step by step instructions? Brakes are pretty much all the same on every car. Drums shoes are harder to replace than brake pads, though.

    Now, go buy a manual.

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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    Quote Originally Posted by 86AccordLxi
    Buy a manual.

    Seriously.

    And if someone else is doing the work, why do you need step by step instructions? Brakes are pretty much all the same on every car. Drums shoes are harder to replace than brake pads, though.

    Now, go buy a manual.

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    look calm down i already have a manual you obviously havnt been reading my posts closely, i just read the manual twice and searched through the entire brake replacement section and i feel stupid asking you guys for instructions, its just two bolts! Im sorry for the aggravation i may have caused you.

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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    Quote Originally Posted by 86AccordLxi
    Why does searching or reading the manual you have require a 30min trip?

    You'll need a c-clamp to push the piston back into the caliper. Also, if your brakes haven't been replaced before there'll be two philips screws that are basically frozen into the caliper. You might need an impact driver to get those out. Make sure you have something like pb blaster on hand.

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    i dont remember there being philips screws on the caliper on the rotor yes but not the caliper lol and i normally bleed my brakes when changing the pads

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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    Yeah, dur, I meant the rotor.

    Either way, you keep asking questions and there's only 4 bolts that hold brakes together-- two for holding the caliper together, and 2 to hold the caliper to the spindle.

    All you have to do is slow down and look at the pretty diagrams.

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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    lol ya brakes are really easy to do and shit there pritty much the same on all cars

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    Google is your friend

    http://www.edmunds.com/ownership/how...7/article.html
    http://www.partsource.ca/doityourself/TIPS_brakes.asp
    http://www.howtodothings.com/automot...rake-pads.html
    http://www.thepartsbin.com/change-brake-pads.html
    http://www.cockeyed.com/lessons/brak...eshoes01.shtml

    Follow ANY of these guides, use a little common sense and you should be good to go. If you can get the pads out, it will be OBVIOUS how to do the rotors...
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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

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    good luck ahmad89
    obviousley YOU.. have not been reading the posts very well. Any manual, INLUDING ANY CAR WITH DISC BRAKES, will provide you with pictures, although not in color, of the basic things you need to get the job done.

    I have to admire your diligence to do this work your self despite not having a clue what you're getting in to. It appears you want to fix it with your keyboard and monitor, well that is just not realistic is it.

    we all should probably cut back on the caffiene
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    Re: Brake pads, rotors and fluid which?

    lol im not on caffiene and i dont wanna fix my car with a keyboard and monitor, it would really help to get a better visual in color and live pics so i can see the area around and stuff, but i figured it out and i feel really stupid and im really sorry for impatient. When i get the pads and convince my dad to let me do it this weekend, i'll let yall know how its going.
    Now, are the rotors hard to change? i couldnt find it in the manual, when i get home i'll check here first if yall can help me out with that then i'll just google and look more into the manual.
    Thank you for your cooperation.

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