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    msd blaster ss coil install

    4 wires going to stock coil

    2 terminals available on the msd blaster ss coil

    ? splice both Black/Yellow wires from each stock coil wire plugs to + (positive) ???

    ? splice both Blue wires to from each stock coil wire plugs to - (negative) ???

    que?



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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    yes

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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    thanks bud. appreciated.

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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    blaster ss=

    Coil Style: E-core
    Primary Resistance: 0.355 ohms
    Coil Internal Construction: Epoxy
    Maximum Voltage: 40,000 V
    Turns Ratio: 70:1
    Secondary Resistance: 4.40K ohms
    Inductance: 6.9 mH
    Peak Current: 300 mA
    Spark Duration: 220 uS



    what is the stock spec for this info?

    Coil Style: ?
    Primary Resistance: ? ohms
    Coil Internal Construction: Epoxy
    Maximum Voltage: ? V
    Turns Ratio: ?
    Secondary Resistance: ? ohms
    Inductance: 6.9 mH
    Peak Current: ?
    Spark Duration: ?

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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install


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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    i haven't had a problem with mine and i put like 8k on the car. just smoother idle.

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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    for best performance

    do you want longer spark duration?

    least current draw?

    least primary resistance?

    i have both new msd blaster ss, and blaster 2 coils. also have a flamethrower available, about a year old. so far blaster SS is working great, but i'm no genius on figuring out the optimal electrical setups....




    blaster ss=

    Coil Style: E-core
    Primary Resistance: 0.355 ohms
    Coil Internal Construction: Epoxy
    Maximum Voltage: 40,000 V
    Turns Ratio: 70:1
    Secondary Resistance: 4.40K ohms
    Inductance: 6.9 mH
    Peak Current: 300 mA
    Spark Duration: 220 uS



    blaster 2=

    Coil Style: Canister
    Primary Resistance: 0.700 ohms
    Coil Internal Construction: Oil-filled
    Maximum Voltage: 45,000 V
    Turns Ratio: 100:1
    Secondary Resistance: 4.70K ohms
    Inductance: 8.0 mH
    Peak Current: 140 mA
    Spark Duration: 350 uS


    flamethrower=

    Coil Style: Canister
    Primary Resistance: 1.500 ohms
    Coil Internal Construction: Oil-filled
    Maximum Voltage: 40,000 V
    Turns Ratio: 100:1
    Secondary Resistance: 10.5K ohms
    Inductance: 6.5 mH
    Peak Current: 7.2 amps
    Spark Duration: 1.5 mS

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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    so which one is better

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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=60189

    msd blaster ss seems to suck...

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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    Quote Originally Posted by 88accordSF


    yeah but on the TEC dizzy they seam to work.

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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    apparently I need a 0.8 ohm ballast resistor in the larger black/yellow wire going to the + of the msd blaster ss, according to MSD technicians. its cookin it good, according to them, without the ballast resistor....

    will try tomorrow when i grab another ignitor...

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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    i used a blaster 2, works great, and if your useing this on the accord you need no ballest resistor. i have the reason posted in about 6 other ""coil" threads, just install the coil of your choice like the how to says on here and enjoy

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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    Like any other power transistor, an ignitor requires a certain amount of resistance. The less resistance, the more current, and the more heat. The reason that the TEC holds up is because it's ignitor dissipates heat more effectively. Adding a resistor might solve your problem, but will reduce efficiency slightly. Personally, I would go with one of the other coils that you have. The ss is good, but not the best, I went with mine because I have had a bad experience with an oil-filled.
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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    i posted this in a thread from like over a year ago,..

    Quote Originally Posted by labeledsk8r
    this is taken right off a website that sells the resistor
    With a stockpoints style ignition, a ballast resistor must be placed in-line with the positive terminal of the coil. The following Blaster Coils are supplied with a 0.8 ohm ballast resistor plus a terminal and boot to fit most applications. Mallory Unilite applications also require the ballast resistor.
    mostly saying that if your running points then you need it or if your running a Mallory Unilite system. so its fine like you got it. no worries man. just enjoy on of the best low costs mods you can do

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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    Quote Originally Posted by labeledsk8r
    i posted this in a thread from like over a year ago,..
    thanks for the info

    Quote Originally Posted by LX-incredible
    Like any other power transistor, an ignitor requires a certain amount of resistance. The less resistance, the more current, and the more heat. The reason that the TEC holds up is because it's ignitor dissipates heat more effectively. Adding a resistor might solve your problem, but will reduce efficiency slightly.
    .8 ohm ballast + .7 ohm Blaster 2 resistance = 1.5 ohms. equal to stock
    .8 ohm ballast + .3 ohm Blaster SS resistance = 1.1 ohms. 0.4 ohms less than stock

    which means that the Blaster SS would light more fire, in terms of output?

    i 'll switch to a Tec distributor if it means better reliability long term

    if the coil is then external, does that just mean one wire needs to be rerouted from the stock 3 wires going to the Hitachi distributor, to fire the Tec external coil?

    **********

    threw in a new ignitor, slapped in the stock coil, and the accord started right up.... now to get an MSD resistor...
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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    Quote Originally Posted by 88accordSF
    thanks for the info
    .8 ohm ballast + .7 ohm Blaster 2 resistance = 1.5 ohms. equal to stock
    .8 ohm ballast + .3 ohm Blaster SS resistance = 1.1 ohms. 0.4 ohms less than stock
    which means that the Blaster SS would light more fire, in terms of output?
    i 'll switch to a Tec distributor if it means better reliability long term
    if the coil is then external, does that just mean one wire needs to be rerouted from the stock 3 wires going to the Hitachi distributor, to fire the Tec external coil?
    **********
    threw in a new ignitor, slapped in the stock coil, and the accord started right up.... now to get an MSD resistor...
    The coil is external on both models. If you meant the ignitor, it's still on the distributor, only mounted on the outside, separate from the pickup coil. From the numbers you posted, the ss has the lowest voltage and the shortest spark duration, though peak current is better than the blaster 2. By adding a resistor you are adding extra windings outside of the coil, which are not serving to charge up the secondary windings, resulting in inefficiency. Also keep in mind that this coil was mainly designed for use with an ignition, another reason why I went this route.
    The Blaster SS is an E-core style coil, which is a very efficient design when it comes to producing high voltage and spark energy. The windings produce 300mA and can handle up to 48,000 volts when used with an MSD 6 Series Ignition Control.
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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    i found out i have a tec dizzy in my carbed car.

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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    Quote Originally Posted by MessyHonda
    i found out i have a tec dizzy in my carbed car.
    Bonus.
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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    dudes
    i just installed my blaster 2 coil and it was an instant improvment my car turn on with out flaw and it turned off great
    im so happy right now
    this was a great improvment
    wow i wonder how the msd 6 would work?
    sorry about the thread jack

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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    Quote Originally Posted by buttaz1
    dudes
    i just installed my blaster 2 coil and it was an instant improvment my car turn on with out flaw and it turned off great
    im so happy right now
    this was a great improvment
    wow i wonder how the msd 6 would work?
    sorry about the thread jack
    Your stock was probably worn. For the MSD 6, it's barely noticeable, but there is an improvement. An ignition box only makes sense if you are planning major engine mods.
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    Re: msd blaster ss coil install

    Quote Originally Posted by LX-incredible
    The coil is external on both models. If you meant the ignitor, it's still on the distributor, only mounted on the outside, separate from the pickup coil.
    my bad... referring to ignitor, not the coil.


    Quote Originally Posted by buttaz1
    dudes
    i just installed my blaster 2 coil and it was an instant improvment my car turn on with out flaw and it turned off great
    im so happy right now
    this was a great improvment
    wow i wonder how the msd 6 would work?
    sorry about the thread jack
    no prob

    what year car? fuel injection or carb? did you add a ballast resistor?

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