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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    I've owned two mustangs and would buy a new one if it was in my car need plan but I have an S2000 and that's all the performance I need. The company I work for built a lot of the assembly systems for the new Mustang including the rear axle systems. Most of the cars in the late 60 and early 70 had V8's and did have the ignition point problem and this is one item that caused people to think that V8's shouldn't be revved much.
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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by MessyHonda
    all i know is just not to buy a mustang....my friend has spent more money fixing it than driving it.....he only got it like 6 months ago and his tranny went, break lines failed. and his tires were gone but that is beside the point. its only a 03 mustang gt. sounds good...but no way i would DD one.
    His tranny went probably because people were abusing it. Tires wear out. Brake lines? I don't really believe that.

    Besides, if you want to talk about cars that spend more time in the shop than driving, let's talk about DSMs.

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomisimo
    Thx ROODOO2.
    Whut I was sayng is. If you bye a Mustang GT500 today, you'll get same suspention as you get in basic model. Becouse of Fod says, thet it will cost them another 500$ to upgrade to beter bracks, shocks, spings.
    I mean, its stupid to supecharge engine and not upgrade suspention...
    Copitolism...

    PS: Roodoo2, i know about thet book you tolking about, only i dont read it, I seing a Documentary based on thet book.
    That's nothing new. The 64 mustang had the same suspension as the Ford Falcon, and if you ever read about the creation of the movie "Bullit" you'll find the mustang was literally falling apart while filming, but the dodge charger's suspension was so heavy duty that it held up fine.

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by 2ndGenGuy
    Okay, I'm going to say it one more time. Corvette!

    This car proves that American V8's are not bad. Saying they are inefficient and unreliable is ridiculous. They days of the late 70's and and 80's V8's are gone.

    The Corvette C6 Z06 puts out 500hp and STILL gets 28mpg. There isn't a puny, high-revving European V8 that can even begin to touch that. There are no reliability issues with American V8's that I've ever heard of. Tolerances are tighter now, they're not the same 350's from 1965. The elitist Euro-car mentality needs to stop. It's closed-minded and completely wrong.
    Agreed.

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomisimo
    Thx ROODOO2.
    Whut I was sayng is. If you bye a Mustang GT500 today, you'll get same suspention as you get in basic model. Becouse of Fod says, thet it will cost them another 500$ to upgrade to beter bracks, shocks, spings.
    I mean, its stupid to supecharge engine and not upgrade suspention...
    Copitolism...

    PS: Roodoo2, i know about thet book you tolking about, only i dont read it, I seing a Documentary based on thet book.
    I think you missed a 0. The number I heard getting tossed around was $5,000, not $500. Even ford doesn't have its head that far up it's ass to stick with live axles instead of a $500 to IRS.

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    Yeha, i'm pretty sure the suspension isn't the same in the GT500 as in the base v6 model. It's the same STYLE of suspension, they both have live rear axles, but some people PREFER live axles. I think they're fun, and unless I plan on aggressively competing, I don't really think the cost increase for an independant rear suspension would be worth it.

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by roodoo2
    #3 MH, I agree you need to beware buying a used Mustang, they are mass produced and many have abused childhoods, lol. I>E Rental fleets, first time teenager buyers, everybody wants to try and race them, etc... and from what you say with the tires on your friends car, that one may have taken a beating. Ford did have problems with transmissions on a lot of models, no doubt about it.

    roodoo you are right. the car was from a teenager and he could not afford to pay it off so the bank took it and thats how my friend got it...way under price

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelvin
    Yeha, i'm pretty sure the suspension isn't the same in the GT500 as in the base v6 model. It's the same STYLE of suspension, they both have live rear axles, but some people PREFER live axles. I think they're fun, and unless I plan on aggressively competing, I don't really think the cost increase for an independant rear suspension would be worth it.
    Depends on how you are going to drive the car. Independant suspension will handle better than a rigid axle. If you are going to spend the $5000 more, you need to have use for it or you just have too much money.

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelvin
    His tranny went probably because people were abusing it. Tires wear out. Brake lines? I don't really believe that.
    Besides, if you want to talk about cars that spend more time in the shop than driving, let's talk about DSMs.

    yeah....they switched out 2nd gear so it was shorter...and it would grid going in. break lines failed......he had to slow down with his Ebrake.....and midas charged him 500 bucks for new lines, rotors and pads.

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    This is now a pointless thread.

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by Blkblurr
    I've owned two mustangs and would buy a new one if it was in my car need plan but I have an S2000 and that's all the performance I need. The company I work for built a lot of the assembly systems for the new Mustang including the rear axle systems. Most of the cars in the late 60 and early 70 had V8's and did have the ignition point problem and this is one item that caused people to think that V8's shouldn't be revved much.
    Lats satle this debate... Ford Mustang GT500 @ TopGear Test
    They did mantoned rear Axle in thet film.

    edit:PS: gues i was wrong about thet $500. It is $5000,-

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    I don’t know why people just rev their motors for non-diagnostic purposes anyway. In my opinion, its rather annoying when you have some kids at a car meet rev the hell out of their motor. Then it becomes more of a contest, who’s motor can rev the highest and fastest. Sorry ill get off my soapbox.
    Anyway. Does revving you motor cause damage to it? yes and maybe. Just running your motor damages it. Oil just doesn’t turn black cause of heat from the motor. There are little pieces of metal in there as well. To what degree does reving an unloaded motor do to it, it’s hard to say. Revving it probally doesn't hurt it that much but im sure it does cause some wear and tear.

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by B18Civic
    I don’t know why people just rev their motors for non-diagnostic purposes anyway. In my opinion, its rather annoying when you have some kids at a car meet rev the hell out of their motor. Then it becomes more of a contest, who’s motor can rev the highest and fastest. Sorry ill get off my soapbox.
    Anyway. Does revving you motor cause damage to it? yes and maybe. Just running your motor damages it. Oil just doesn’t turn black cause of heat from the motor. There are little pieces of metal in there as well. To what degree does reving an unloaded motor do to it, it’s hard to say. Revving it probally doesn't hurt it that much but im sure it does cause some wear and tear.


    lol...soo true.....its like who has the biggest and baddest.

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by Tomisimo
    Lats satle this debate... Ford Mustang GT500 @ TopGear Test
    They did mantoned rear Axle in thet film.
    edit:PS: gues i was wrong about thet $500. It is $5000,-
    Yeah, let's bring that up. Top gear puts a car on a DYNO, and expects to receive the 'advertised horsepower' at the freaking wheels. WTF. They were seriously smoking crack if they expected the mustang to have 'a zero friction' drivetrain. All cars lose 15-20% of their power through the transmissions, AWD cars even more so. If you put a Veyron on an AWD dyno you'd probably be lucky to break 800hp.

    There is a HUGE difference between crank horsepower, and wheel horsepower. I can't believe Top Gear edited their show like they expected it to be the same. It really made me lose a huge amount of respect for that show, actually.

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelvin
    I can't believe Top Gear edited their show like they expected it to be the same. It really made me lose a huge amount of respect for that show, actually.
    That's a pretty sad statement. Top Gear was merely exposing the fact that a lot of companies advertise thier hp numbers, but never really tell the public that the numbers were meaured at the crank. Top Gear is a great show and I will love it no matter.

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by Blizzard
    Clears the plugs.
    Far as the rest of this. Reving the engine out of gear isnt any diffrent than reving it in gear so long as you dont over rev it.
    Reving it and droping it in gear on an automatic is bad.

    a little too late on the last part i ripped my auto tranny out doing that

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by Hans
    That's a pretty sad statement. Top Gear was merely exposing the fact that a lot of companies advertise thier hp numbers, but never really tell the public that the numbers were meaured at the crank. Top Gear is a great show and I will love it no matter.
    Fine. Name me ONE car company, anywhere, that advertises WHEEL horsepower. You won't find one, because ALL of them measure it at the crank. Hence why top gear's episode was sad, and really hurt any shred of credibility it had.

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    yeah car companies want it too look like they have lots of HP.

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by B18Civic
    I don’t know why people just rev their motors for non-diagnostic purposes anyway. In my opinion, its rather annoying when you have some kids at a car meet rev the hell out of their motor. Then it becomes more of a contest, who’s motor can rev the highest and fastest. Sorry ill get off my soapbox.
    Anyway. Does revving you motor cause damage to it? yes and maybe. Just running your motor damages it. Oil just doesn’t turn black cause of heat from the motor. There are little pieces of metal in there as well. To what degree does reving an unloaded motor do to it, it’s hard to say. Revving it probally doesn't hurt it that much but im sure it does cause some wear and tear.
    agreed
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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    on a car it's acceptable to rev the motor a little to clear the carb. i don't mean rev the shit out of it,i mean if it's been sitting for a few days. there is no need on a fuel injected car. carbs have a tendency to develop varnish and gunk on the parts fuel flows through. you need to get plenty of airflow going through the engine,then the fresh fuel passing those parts will help clean them.

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by Civic Accord Honda
    you mean except for the knocking,smoking and other stuff you were talking about. there is no reason to rev a fuel injected car. people who see that video will think you are a ricer for sure. the original reason for reving a car was to clear the carb, kids with fuel injected cars picked it up,and it's stupid now. you don't have a 21 year old carb to worry about.

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    no but my car is badass :-D it pulls long burnouts but cant get anyone to record me doing them becuz if my mom found out she would hit me upside the head

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by Civic Accord Honda
    no but my car is badass :-D it pulls long burnouts but cant get anyone to record me doing them becuz if my mom found out she would hit me upside the head
    I thought she did that anyway. i wish i had a video camera,you would piss your pants. lol. doing burn outs on bald ass tires doesn't count.

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    Re: Old School Says Don't Rev Engine

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile
    I thought she did that anyway. i wish i had a video camera,you would piss your pants. lol. doing burn outs on bald ass tires doesn't count.
    only one tire is bald and it dose them on the donut tire too :-D

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