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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    man what a quick project

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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    Looking good. If your looking to do more brake upgrades let me know i have a new set of rear drilled/slotted rotors with new brake pads.

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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    SWEET!! damn i love white hatchs with black bumpers there just soo sexy
    your latch looks almost just like my step dads old hatch but his interior was blue.

    anyway looking good and keep us updated

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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    Quote Originally Posted by LiTtLe xOx BitT View Post
    Looking good. If your looking to do more brake upgrades let me know i have a new set of rear drilled/slotted rotors with new brake pads.
    I may be interested in this probably sometime after christmas if any, gotta get some mula first haha.

    Thanks guys, I actually got those rims(I think bullard will recognize them ) in summer but never could get rubber on em because I had to get that header over to Mr. R so he could match it up.

    Got some work done today, I wish I had a printer so I could print out carrotman's conversion but I'll just have to remember/write it out. Started taking off the EFI parts I will need, and had some trouble getting the trailing arms off the rear discs(the mounts or whatever are pretty rusty and I don't want to reuse them(current hatch ones are better). There is quite a bit of rot on this car so far I have noticed! I'll keep taking off parts and get some pics when theres some progress to show. I hope to get the motor in within a few months(I'd like to get some damper mat in the interior while its all stripped down, but I need to get some first haha). Oh and what paint would you guys recommend to paint up the knuckles and those sorts of parts, im going to clean them up and make them look new again!

    More work to be done tomorrow...

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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    The 86-87 trailing arms are different from the 88-89 ones. I remember reading that somewhere, so your 86' arms wont work.
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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    Quote Originally Posted by russiankid View Post
    The 86-87 trailing arms are different from the 88-89 ones. I remember reading that somewhere, so your 86' arms wont work.
    I wasn't going to use them, I was going to use my trailing arm brackets.

    Heres where it sits now:

    All the EFI stuff so far I have taken off:

    Inlcudes, ECU, harness(plus half of one.. with a different fuel rail?), canister, fuel filter, vac box, prop valve(brakes),


    Fuse box splice..


    Is the fuse box suppost to be spliced into there...? Because on the how-to it was not connected... someone let me know if someone hacked my harness. Going to have to fix that if so. Oh and on both how-to's they say to pull just the fuel pump but then I also read you need the tank aswell? Is getting this tank a must, will it give me problems if I just slap the other pump in there?

    More shots:

    Fenders off, removing harness.


    Front brake shot, nasty colour huh.


    Just some surface rust, gonna paint everything up and make it nice.

    Fully stripped interior.


    Dash gone too!


    Parts on roof, shop is cozy.


    Dash is exactally the colour I want(same with interior), but there is some damage to the center.. where someone tried to pry out an old stereo or something so theres some ugly marks.. oh well


    The dash did NOT take 15 mins to get out as I read on here! Still gotta yoink out that harness, got most of it disconnected from all the clips and that, have to get the part undone from that fenders/bay area. Try to get that done today. The rear brakes are in the trunk so there off obvioulsy haha, I've gotta take them to a shop so I can get some new hardlines on the knuckles and the shock removed because I can't get it off! More to come later!
    Last edited by 87roach; 12-28-2007 at 11:15 PM.

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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    The tanks are different, the EFI has a line that the carbs do not.
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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    Quote Originally Posted by russiankid View Post
    The tanks are different, the EFI has a line that the carbs do not.
    Yeah the fuel pump is different also, so a EFI Fuel Tank is REQUIRED
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    Well I got the harness out and stashed away for the moment, was working on the front brakes and getting off what I could, going to need to pick up a 2/3 jaw puller to get the rest done I think. I got all the clips and stuff off the line thats needed, and I took off the caps to access the fuel tank and that shit is right rusted so I may have to pick up a better tank(ugh). Well more to come, I'll try to make a trip to the jy next week to see about some parts if they look too bad.

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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    wow.. bro.. youre doin some major work.. hopefully after christmas i can get my 3g lookin right.. but good luck w/ everything! post pictures!! lol i love lookin at them.. lmao
    one day I'll return.

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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    lol i just bought a set of rims like those from a member here to put on my civic. akuma?

    anyway nice project great progress

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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    Quote Originally Posted by mkymonkey View Post
    lol i just bought a set of rims like those from a member here to put on my civic. akuma?

    anyway nice project great progress
    There Drag DR6 rims, haven't done much lately due to the holidays. Got some light bulbs from santa for the shop and now its freaking bright in there Currently playing around with a shifter idea.. will try to make some progress on that and see if that gas tank is useable... more to come! Thanks for the comments

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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    Got a bit more work done:

    Over the past few days I have been cleaning some parts, heres the intake mani all nice and clean, took a bit but looks much better now. Also cleaned the fuel rail, new gaskets, and put different injectors in because the ones that were in there were... uh toast.

    Cleannnnnn.


    There was quite a bit of buildup inside so I got rid of pretty much all of it that I could.


    Could use a bit of a port job but its fine for now.


    Cleaned up the EGR valve a bit and put in the new gasket.


    Also polished this guy up, it was half covered in oil and gook and other corrosions, almost looks new




    I'll have to get another cap down the road.
    Last edited by 87roach; 12-29-2007 at 06:33 PM.

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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    Heres the coolant/air tube that everyone seems to leave on after they get a CAI so I thought I would chop that jazz off since I will be getting one.

    Now you see it.


    Now you don't!


    Cleaned these up too, need painting now.


    Cleaned vacuum rail, needs paint.


    Currently struggling with the gas tank... not sure if I want to use this one it seems to be looking worse as I go along, I don't like that at all It seems that everything on the exterior that isn't easily visable is rusted to high hell, I was lucky to get the nut off the fuel filter on the front but the back one I don't know how thats going to turn out..(quite literally too). Need to get some paint so I can coat these parts!

    Edited thread a bit, changed first post with goals.
    Last edited by 87roach; 12-29-2007 at 05:57 PM.

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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    good work
    reminds me of the fun I had when I did my rebuild last year

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    Keep up the good work.

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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    damn nice!

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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    Happy New Year!

    Small update, but any progress is good progress

    Started cleaning up the front calipers, that paint is REALLY on there! (well was..)




    Dirty.


    Clean!


    Heres the rear knuckles as they sit, have to take them to a shop and get them disassembled.


    Same with the front, other side off aswell, also have to get the new balljoints pressed in.


    Cabin harness is out, needs some repair and clean-up, new wire loom and some connectors, ect.


    So I thought I would take out the LCA's while I was taking off everything else but the bolt head snapped right off on both sides... so I cut the housing and moved it up but it's still stuck on there pretty damn good. I really hope the ones on the hatch don't have this problem or im screwed


    I'm having trouble tracking down the paint I want but I'll continue searching. Also the VHT caliper paint says if you bake it you get better results, now has anyone tried this out on a caliper or would it not work and dryout/cook the rubber making it not worthwhile. Or is there something you can coat the rubber with before you put it in to avoid the dryout? Or is the baking not worth it for these since they will see heat from braking(says on the can this may also cure the paint). I think I'll use the same paint on the valve cover since I can bake that no probs. I think thats it for now, more stripping/cleaning and then painting to come.
    Last edited by 87roach; 01-06-2008 at 03:26 PM.
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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    If that happens on the hatch, make sure that you cant move the bolt and cut it off on both sides between the control arm and the mounting bracket. Then just get new bushings and bolts.
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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    your project looks awesome!!!

    good work!

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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    Hey I got your PM! I can't beleive I missed this thread so far.

    You're doing a great job.

    I can't confirm if you need the EFI tank or not. The extra EFI fuel feed line connects to the fuel pump only so it's not a matter of fuel tank. I know that the Carb pump fits the EFI tank but I don't know if the other fits well. If you can manage to put the EFI pump in the carb tank, you're set. I heard that the internal chambers aren't the same, this might cause a bit of a problem in the future. I think that smufguy did that at some point but I'm not 100% sure.

    For the interior harness, this is a bit problematic tough. You have an Hatch and it's an 86-87, the Coupe is an 88-89 and there are some differences. The Coupe doesn't have the rear wiper. and I think the brake light wiring is a bit different. I'm not sure if the front harness will even connect with the rear harness.

    You could try and see if the plugs are similar. If they do, just use the SE-i front harness, rewire the radio and add the missing wires for the rear wiper.

    Your best bet would be to get the main harness from an 88-89 LX-i Hatch.

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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    looks like ur doing great progress bro! like what u did with the garage too. keep it up

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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    looking good man

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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    Thanks for the positive comments guys they keep me goin!

    Heres the latest progress:

    Sprayed a bunch of coats, must be like 4-5 pretty much emptied the can. This is after baking.


    Sanded the high stuff and some clear coats down.



    Can you say Gold Top A20A3 haha

    This is where I had some crazy turnout, as I was baking the top coat the smell started to get stronger(there is some when you initially bake it, its less strong if you let it dry overnight) and so I whipped it out asap and turns out I somewhat burned it I guess... but looking at it now I like it a lot haha!!




    Cut a test hole in the cover, I might make it a little bigger so I can see the degrees.




    It's not perfect but hey for my first one I think it turned out pretty damn good! You live and learn..

    Thanks for the reply carotman, I will have to look into the tank thing. I haven't been able to get the fuel pump out due to the nuts being rusted and just stripping.. I will look into the matching harness problem too.

    Also what about all the stuff that wont be hooked up question?
    Last edited by 87roach; 01-09-2008 at 12:58 PM.
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    Re: 87roach's 3g wip

    Looking GREAT!!!

    Valve Cover Looks Awesome!
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