hey guys, first time posting. first, ive got an 85' hatchback carb'd es2. i replaced the fuel pump, fuel cut off relay, fuses, and lines. still nothing. im thinking maybe the starter is messed up somehow? it spins but wont start. when it died it lost power on the freeway and couldnt jump it or pop the clutch. if its the starter, would the a20's work? i have a dead 87' 4 door auto in my yard in need of a head gasket, so if the part fits i have free stuff to use.
what u guys think?
Did you check for spark? Sounds like if you're getting fuel, I would check that next. If the starter was bad, the engine probably wouldn't turn over at all, and you'd still be able to pop the clutch to get it going again.
And, no unfortunately the A20 starter will not work.
Also, welcome to the site! Post some pictures while you're here!
ok i checked, and its getting spark. the pump works but it appears that while gas is flowing into the pump, its not flowing to the carb.
thoughts?
Are you getting fuel in the float bowl? I don't know much about the stock carb, but I suppose it could be a float valve stuck shut... Or the fuel filter right before the carb is clogged.
I see an old Civic in your avatar too. Definitely going to need pics of both your cars!
lol ya the civic is a 75' cvcc and need ALOT of work.
unfortunately the fuel doent make it past the pump. it flows freely to it but not through it. its brand new so it should work, right? the car is seriously irritating me lol. if i cant fix it, its up for grabs if you guys are interested.
if u cant ge tit fixed, i'd be interested in the tranny if ur willing to part it out
So if you take the output line off the fuel pump, nothing comes out of it? Can you hear it working? If you can hear it working, but nothing is flowing through, then it sounds like you got a bad fuel pump. Sometimes parts are DOA out of the box.
You might want to have someone in the car turning the engine over. I'm pretty sure the fuel pump won't kick on unless there is oil pressure, which means the engine has to be turning over. This can't be too hard to fix! Don't give up on her yet!
Last edited by 2ndGenGuy; 01-09-2008 at 10:59 AM.
lol sry havent posted in a while. drama drama drama. i found out that its the timing belt. or at least my mechanic friend thinks so. im going to check in the morning so wish me luck
o and if hes right about the accord, then the civic may have the same problem. i just cant remember how to put it back together....
85 accord hatchback 5 speed needs alot of work.....
75 civic cvcc hatchback 4 speed needs an engine....
crap....
o and what do you guys think of an ES2 and factory 5 speed in a gen one civic? will it fit? i have the opportunity to use a garage that actualy has good tools so i wanna have my very own sleeper beast to mess with the ricers here in town.
85 accord hatchback 5 speed needs alot of work.....
75 civic cvcc hatchback 4 speed needs an engine....
crap....
If you can get the ES2 to fit in the Civic that would be pretty cool, though for it's size the ES2 isn't particularly potent. 86hp... If you were happy with that much power, you can practically bolt in an EK1, only mod is a slight mod on the rear engine mount. It's done all the time, check out www.roadsailing.com.
If you still wanted to cram the ES2 in there, you'd be better off going with something like the A20. The A20 is basically the same block, just 2 liters and sans-CVCC. The mounts on the engine itself are identical, and it's quite a bit more powerful and less complicated. But if you've got the ES2, it would be a great starting point to work up to the A20!
ya im just working with what i have. i want both cars back on the road, but i can only afford to keep one.... maybe if i stick the ES2 in the civic, my dad will let me keep the accord shell in the garage until i can do something with it. i have a non-running 3gee in the yard so if i have the A20 on that rebuilt, maybe ill just scrap the 3gee body and save the A20.
so im guessing ill have to mod the rear engine mount and the tranny mount to get it in there, right?
85 accord hatchback 5 speed needs alot of work.....
75 civic cvcc hatchback 4 speed needs an engine....
crap....
To get the A20 or the ES2 in there, I have no idea what you'll have to modify. I'm afraid that you might be the first person ever to try that! Let us know what you come up with though. I'm pretty sure that side engine mount will work for sure... So you have a starting poing there at least!Originally Posted by theES2beast
damn! lol time to get cracking on this then. ill be back later with what i find out.
85 accord hatchback 5 speed needs alot of work.....
75 civic cvcc hatchback 4 speed needs an engine....
crap....
What did you figure out with it? Was it the timing belt? Bad fuel pump from the parts store?...
never figured it out.... it seems like the timing belt tho. cant afford to fix it tho... may also be the distributor. still not pumping fuel so idk. a friend of mine may buy and fix it tho so its not gonna get junked! and im not getting rid of the civic. its gonna be put in my parent's garage til i can afford to work on it.
Last edited by theES2beast; 02-27-2008 at 05:05 AM.
85 accord hatchback 5 speed needs alot of work.....
75 civic cvcc hatchback 4 speed needs an engine....
crap....
ok guys, new development. i went out yesterday and took off the timing cover and cranked over the motor. the crank, waterpump, and alternator all spun freely, but the cam wouldnt budge. the belt and tensioner seem fine so idk... what you guys think? bent valves?
85 accord hatchback 5 speed needs alot of work.....
75 civic cvcc hatchback 4 speed needs an engine....
crap....
Uh... did the cam pulley spin but not the camshaft? Maybe the key in either the gear or the pulley stripped out...
nope the whole thing was froze up. pulley and all.
85 accord hatchback 5 speed needs alot of work.....
75 civic cvcc hatchback 4 speed needs an engine....
crap....
So was the timing belt spinning on the cam gear? When you'd try to start it?
i tryied starting it yesterday. the crank, waterpump and alternator were the only ones cranking over. the cam and timing belt wouldnt budge. like its either stuck or some teeth on the belt are striped. just cant get the lower cover off to replace it.
85 accord hatchback 5 speed needs alot of work.....
75 civic cvcc hatchback 4 speed needs an engine....
crap....
Sounds like maybe your tensioner came loose or more likely the belt snapped. If your cam landed just right, you may or may not have any bent valves. Don't use the starter to turn it over anymore. You can probably just replace the belt and you'll be good to go.
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