Feeler for AZ Race A20 Billet Engine Mounts

[1funryd]

As stated above, this is a Feeler thread for how many 2nd genners Prelude and Accords are wanting to pay for Explicit Speed Performance Engine Performance mounts.

I was asked by MessyHonda to offer this over here on this thread. Manufacturer: www.explicitspeedperformance.com
I was informed that both the 2nd gen Prelude and Accord share the same engine mounts. This will help to push the project with more numbers supporting this project.

Here are the 3rd gens Ludes that we just had them complete:

Motor Mounts (For Reference purpose only)


We are going to need a minimum number of you guys to produce this kit, I will keep this thread updated with all the current information as I get it. I will post up the minimum number for this project to get off the ground.

We already have three members from preludpower.com on board, and with the 3geez club, this will push that number up.

If you have any questions about my work or this project do not hesistate to email me at: [email protected]

1FunRydPerformance
Sean Tydingco

List Updated as of 3-13-2008 @ 3:24pm
1. rustlude87 - Prelude
2. JDM86lude - Prelude
3. kyryeguy - Prelude
4. EricW - 3Geez
5. LX-incredible - 3Geez
6. RobT5580 - 3Geez
7. Messyhonda - 3Geez
8. TOLOUDNPROUD - 3Geez
9. thegreatdane - 3Geez
10. twhonza - 3Geez
11. Chrislude1982

Dropped from the New Welded Mounts Buy:
10. Smeado
13. knifemind




Legallities

I need you all to understand, once I put your name down on this list after I have discussed with AZ Race the details and requirements for this project, you the buyers must be committed to this till the very end of the project. Which means, no pulling out!!!

**A Non-Refundabledeposit will be required to start this project once all details have been worked out. Even if some members pull out, due to whatever reason, their will be no refunds once AZ Race has started R&D and manhours into designing this kit. Those who drop will lose their deposits to actual time and money spent developing the kit.**

[labeledsk8r]

im interested.... i was going to be looking into getting alum mounts built myself but htis is much better, kinda interested in a price estimate , dont put me down on any list yet, as im still accord less, im just planning ahead for my build, but im interested as hell. good luck on this


you might want to have a mod move this out of 2geez. and into the R&D thread. since the A20 engine is in our 3gee accord (your 2g lude)

[forrest89sei]

SWEET!

Any Idea on possible cost?

[1funryd]

SWEET!

Any Idea on possible cost?

I am trying to shoot for $350.00 + shipping but it depends on how many we can get onboard this project.

Sean

[1funryd]

im interested.... i was going to be looking into getting alum mounts built myself but htis is much better, kinda interested in a price estimate , dont put me down on any list yet, as im still accord less, im just planning ahead for my build, but im interested as hell. good luck on this


you might want to have a mod move this out of 2geez. and into the R&D thread. since the A20 engine is in our 3gee accord (your 2g lude)

I apologize, I was looking for 3gee accord forum, and I thought this was it. Mods please move to appropriate section.

Sean

[skycam_313]

man if i had the cash......

[2ndGenGuy]

No worries about what section, I went ahead and moved it into the 3geez Performance section... The redirect will disappear tomorrow.

Are you guys SURE that the body mounts on both cars are the same? The 1g Prelude and 1g Accord share the same exact motors as well, but the body mounts are considerably different. I would be really surprised if they were the same between the 2g Prelude and 3g Accord.

[EricW]

You got my attention. I also have and will have the cash avalible.

[labeledsk8r]

edit.. someone corrected me, woot for aftermarket mounts....

[1funryd]

You got my attention. I also have and will have the cash avalible.

Please post if you want to be added to the list. I need you guys to be clear about this. Once we hit 10 committed buyers, I will be discussing more details with AZ Race. AZ Race will be watching the threads, as I always keep them informed of potential projects.
So, If you want to make this happen, please state "Add me to the list", and then I will add you.
No money is needed to put down, until we have the details worked out with AZ Race. That being said, if get added to the list, I expect you will be doing your part to save up for the payment. Once we establish the details of the project, I will announce a date for all deposits, and then from there everyone will be expected to start getting their funds in order for the final payment, which will be annouced by me.

Sean

[Pico]

any idea what the down payment would be?

[EricW]

i just pulled up the engine mount section from mejestic, heres the part list for the 89 lx-i accord for engine mounts, and the parts list for a 86 si prelude engine mounts

accord
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...5=ENGINE+MOUNT

prelude
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...5=ENGINE+MOUNT

im not seeing the same part numbers wich means diffrent parts...

I just used Auto zones website and they list all the same numbers for the aftermarket parts, so their the same.


1funryd

Yeah, Go ahead and add me to the list.

[labeledsk8r]

I just used Auto zones website and they list all the same numbers for the aftermarket parts, so their the same.

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Good to know, lol im glad myself.. i hope i can add myself to this list at some point... got to fix some money problems first.... i will edit my post out

[1funryd]

I just used Auto zones website and they list all the same numbers for the aftermarket parts, so their the same.


1funryd

Yeah, Go ahead and add me to the list.

Added.


The deposit amount will be $150.00, but no money is required right now, until we reach 10 so that I can take this to AZ Race and show them we have serious buyers.


Project Manager,
Sean

[MessyHonda]

give me till Friday to see how bad my paycheck is then i will let you know Sean.
its only for 3 mounts right? how about the hydro front mount?

[EricW]

give me till Friday to see how bad my paycheck is then i will let you know Sean.
its only for 3 mounts right? how about the hydro front mount?

By the way our mounts are set up they may have to make two pieces for the front and rear mounts. The side mount is easy. But the front and rear I believe they will have to make a new mount that bolt to the block and another piece that bolts to the front and rear cross member to utilize that same type of red bushing they use in their other mounts.

[1funryd]

By the way our mounts are set up they may have to make two pieces for the front and rear mounts. The side mount is easy. But the front and rear I believe they will have to make a new mount that bolt to the block and another piece that bolts to the front and rear cross member to utilize that same type of red bushing they use in their other mounts.

Once we get enough members on the list, AZ will take car of all the R&D. Trust me, these guys know their stuff, we did it with the H22 kits, and the B20/21(3rd gen Prelude mounts). But we need to reach that goal first to get moving, so come people lets go!!!!

Sean

[88LXi68]

I am subscribing to this thread and would/will consider buying a set.

[1funryd]

I thank you all for your comments. I highly encourage you guys to join up, this will help to push the project along.

Remember, we need more numbers, for those on the sidelines, please strongly consider this and join up. The longer you wait on the side lines, the longer its going to take to get these made.
My last project for the B20/21 took almost 8 months, because we had guys back out after joinning up, and then we has guys wait till the last minute to be added.

I know it sounds like alot of money, but trust me, consider that no one else will do this in Billet for such lower numbers. AZ Race is truly the home of the good guys! They pulled thru even when the community's I supported where flaky, AZ stood by their promise everytime hands down!!!

Sean

[LX-incredible]

I need mounts anyway, might as well get something that lasts. Sign me up.

[87roach]

I'am highly considering this, however I need to sort some things out before I can commit.

I was wondering if it would be possible to also add some poly bushings for the rear torque bar, something to think about.

[RobT5580]

Add me to the list!

I am definately in......My b20a moves around way to much and i was thinking about seeing if i can have some made up.

[1funryd]

I need mounts anyway, might as well get something that lasts. Sign me up.

Added!!

Lets keep it coming guys, and don't forget, NO Backing Out!!

Sean


List Updated as of 1-15-2008 @ 3:11pm
1. rustlude87 - Prelude
2. JDM86lude - Prelude
3. kyryeguy - Prelude
4. EricW - 3Geez
5. LX-incredible - 3Geez
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10.
?????? Minimum to be determine by AZ Race.(to be updated later..)

[1funryd]

give me till Friday to see how bad my paycheck is then i will let you know Sean.
its only for 3 mounts right? how about the hydro front mount?

Messy, yes this will be for three mounts, Trust me when I say that 70 Durometer is nothing to laugh at. It will hold your engine down.
Let me put it to you this guys, there are only three mounts that support B20luda in pp.com who has dynoed his Turbo Charged H22 swap at 520whp (on race gas) and 480whp on pump gas. And this is a daily driven prelude.

No need for a front mount, well depending your setups. Unless your engine uses the front mount like a rear mount? If that be the case, it will be no rear mount, but we will make sure to take care of this as we progress.

We are opend to all the issues that you find with your mounts. Please feel free to add so that we will address them as we move further along.


On another Note* - We are moving on up. Please guys continue with the feedback on what to watch out for with the mounts, because we want to make sure we address the issues plaguing the mounts.

I want to make sure we are clear, that both the 2nd Gen Prelude and 3rd gen Accord(84-89) Si Fuel Injected models share the same mounts?

Please if you have pictures post them up, the clearer the better.

Sean

[mushroom_toy]

HOLY SHIT AT $$$$$. Was gonna look at getting a set but if estimate is $350 ish then too bad.....but if you sell the bushings $6 bucks a pop I might buy some later on.