H22A/F20B PRi Engine Mounts.

[2Fast_Fiero]

LMAO Neuspeed, where have you been? You should read the rest of the posts made by me. I know thats not all you do. I'm calling up different places to get axles made, I'm gonna start learning the engine harness's so I can know which wires go to where. I'm doing my homework on this man. I allways do my homework before I do something. If I can't get the 10 people, then I'll ask PRi if they could use the mounts that are about to start being made by one of my friends who wants to make the mounts for me. I told him he dont need to, but he insists on doing it. So hopefully PRi will allow me to do that. And why the H series engine swap is cheaper is because the engine is alot cheaper, you gotta do the same things to this swap that you gotta do to a B series, and a B Series engine is a hell of alot more expencive. Unless you know some people who can help ya out, or get a kick ass deal in a junk yard for an engine that might not be reliable. And this swap has been done before. I wish I could talk to the guy who did it tho. I did up a EK9 Civic HB for a H22A motor, we didn't buy mounts or an allready made engine harness, we started from scratch just like what we'll be doin to the 3rd Gen, Except the difference is, I had to make specialized cross supports on the chassis of the Civic cause civic chassis's are weaker then hell, so the front end was way more heavily built to hold the H22A motor just perfect without the drawbacks. A guy I know flipped his car (Honda Civic) which had an H series engine in it and he didn't even upgrade the suspension to the slightest performance. he hit the brakes in a turn and it did a nosedive and twisted the chassis making the car flip.

[2Fast_Fiero]

There was NO Support for the B Series Engine and the 3rd Gen when Juan (OldSchoolSwap) did his engine swap! So stop acting like its imposible.

[YK86]

Actually, I think this has been mentioned already somewhere in the millions of posts in this thread but you keep saying it so I'll say it again: B series are NOT more expensive. I think you are comparing the H22A to the B18C's?? A B18A, B18B can be found for very cheap privately and from the junkyard. Around here, it's about $300-$500US with low mileage and in good shape. You can get a JDM B16A WITH cable tranny and ECU for $1200US. The most expensive B series are the B18C5's at about $5000 with tranny and ECU.

A USDM 92 Prelude H22A was $1300 for just the motor at the local wrecker. A USDM 98 Prelude H22 was $1500 for just the motor at the same place. Looking around some more, all online sites want about $2500US for a JDM 92+ H22A motor, tranny, and ECU. The 96+ start at around $4000 so I don't really see how it can be so much cheaper than a B series.

I'm fine with you informing people of this opportunity but I don't like to see people being misinformed. Don't tell people it's so easy to do something and that they should go for it when there is a lot of things that could go wrong which almost always will cost money to fix. Same goes for the body kits. Don't tell people it will fit with NO modifications and then say they need to pull out the fenders and figure out how to mount it because that is a modification. Looking at the pics, I don't know how you can get that body kit to fit a 3rd gen bumper and have it sitting pushed in more than the 3rd gen bumper sits without the kit. They must of either swapped in a 4th gen bumper, or completely removed the 3rd gen bumper skin and mounting the kit onto the 3rd gen metal bumper support, or have no support and just have the kit mounted without a support which would be bad if they were in an accident. I don't want to see people putting down $800 to buy a kit thinking it'll fit and then find out they need to do a bunch of work they may not be able to do themselves.

It's not what you are trying to do that's making some members mad but how you say and go about doing it.

[Jims 86LXI HB]

Originally posted by YK86
Actually, I think this has been mentioned already somewhere in the millions of posts in this thread but you keep saying it so I'll say it again: B series are NOT more expensive. I think you are comparing the H22A to the B18C's?? A B18A, B18B can be found for very cheap privately and from the junkyard. Around here, it's about $300-$500US with low mileage and in good shape. You can get a JDM B16A WITH cable tranny and ECU for $1200US. The most expensive B series are the B18C5's at about $5000 with tranny and ECU.

A USDM 92 Prelude H22A was $1300 for just the motor at the local wrecker. A USDM 98 Prelude H22 was $1500 for just the motor at the same place. Looking around some more, all online sites want about $2500US for a JDM 92+ H22A motor, tranny, and ECU. The 96+ start at around $4000 so I don't really see how it can be so much cheaper than a B series.

I'm fine with you informing people of this opportunity but I don't like to see people being misinformed. Don't tell people it's so easy to do something and that they should go for it when there is a lot of things that could go wrong which almost always will cost money to fix. Same goes for the body kits. Don't tell people it will fit with NO modifications and then say they need to pull out the fenders and figure out how to mount it because that is a modification. Looking at the pics, I don't know how you can get that body kit to fit a 3rd gen bumper and have it sitting pushed in more than the 3rd gen bumper sits without the kit. They must of either swapped in a 4th gen bumper, or completely removed the 3rd gen bumper skin and mounting the kit onto the 3rd gen metal bumper support, or have no support and just have the kit mounted without a support which would be bad if they were in an accident. I don't want to see people putting down $800 to buy a kit thinking it'll fit and then find out they need to do a bunch of work they may not be able to do themselves.

It's not what you are trying to do that's making some members mad but how you say and go about doing it.

Very well said Yasu. I completly agree.

[2Fast_Fiero]

I never ONCE said it takes NO modifications. Not once. I said it takes MINIMAL modifications, I'm following what the guy that actualy did it suposedly said. And I tell EVERYONE the warnings of doing everything. I told everyone that this mod with the H22 will be tricky and its not going to be a peice of cake. I warned everyone about it. I allways warn everyone about the things that CAN be done to our car with and without modifications. And I tell everyone what mods have to be done. But whatever, I'm not going to argue with you nor Jim. I just dont get how all you "Knoledged" people can keep saying this is impoisible, this is imposible, ohh this is too hard, ohh you can't afford this. Bla Bla Bla!

[YK86]

We never said it's impossible nor did I say you said it will fitwithout modifications (I was talking about the body kit when I said that). We've always said it will cost quite a bit of money and take alot of work since things need to be custom made. And I corrected you on the fact that you keep telling people the H22 is cheaper than the B series when it's not. I didn't say it's impossible anywhere in my posts because I know it can be done if you have the money. There's a guy who did it to his hatch in Ontario but we haven't heard from him since he posted some pics.

You also said in your 4th gen kit posts that it will fit no problems and you can get it to work with or without modfications. It's quite obviousy you do need to make some modifications to make it work so I pointed it out.

[2Fast_Fiero]

I never said that it will fit with no modifications, I said that it will fit with MINIMAL modifications and I posted which modifications I was informed of. And another thing, this post is not made for asking who wants to do this swap, its made for serious people ONLY. Who want the engine mounts. Nothing Else. I will try and help people get Axles made also if I'm capable of that. but if not, then the people will have to do it themselves. THis post is only about WHO WANTS H22A ENGINE MOUNTS FOR THIER 3G???
I got another person to talk to who I just saw drive down the mountain in a nice 89 White 3G that looked Identical to OSS's old Honda.

[Jims 86LXI HB]

Originally posted by MSIAccord_LXi
. And another thing, this post is not made for asking who wants to do this swap, its made for serious people ONLY. Who want the engine mounts. Nothing Else.

Yeah so,........ And now on the 6th page of this thread you want to throw this out their like it's your "get out of jail free card". Hey look fellow's I'm not responsible for the things I said in this thread. Your not even beginning to make sense if you think you can post something in a "discussion forum" and not get a discussion. Hey if I posted a thread ,"hey who want's cheap double adjustable struts" don't you think I'd get questions?, yes you know I would. Don't post things in a forum and try and define the way others reply, it's like trying to invent a anti gravity machine, good luck with that one.

[netfreak]

Ok guys I think I need an engine swap as soon as I can afford one.. I heard explosions out my muffler the other day and I'm pretty sure my transmission's about to fall apart too. I will be saving up for the B16A and the mounts and I will be buying them unless H22 mounts are available at that time. If I have extra cash if/when the H22 mounts become available, I'll probably buy them too, but no promises at this point in time.

[Neuspeed87lx]

Originally posted by YK86
Actually, I think this has been mentioned already somewhere in the millions of posts in this thread but you keep saying it so I'll say it again: B series are NOT more expensive. I think you are comparing the H22A to the B18C's?? A B18A, B18B can be found for very cheap privately and from the junkyard.
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well said ... when he was saying the h22 is cheaper than the b series i was thinking he ment the b16a ...but he must have been talking about something else ....

Originally posted by MSIAccord_LXI
LMAO Neuspeed, where have you been? You should read the rest of the posts made by me. I know thats not all you do. I'm calling up different places to get axles made, I'm gonna start learning the engine harness's so I can know which wires go to where. I'm doing my homework on this man.

well im not gona sit here and read threw 6 pages of your posts about you putting this motor into your car....

[2Fast_Fiero]

I'm not talking about puting this motor in my car, I'm talking about getting engine mounts made for anyone who wants to do this swap. Thats it.

[Neuspeed87lx]

Originally posted by MSIAccord_LXi
I'm not talking about puting this motor in my car, I'm talking about getting engine mounts made for anyone who wants to do this swap. Thats it.

well im not gona sit here and read threw 6 pages of your posts about you getting motor mounts ....

[Jdub07]

Whoa this thread still lives?