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    moving battery to trunk??

    I have a few questions i moved my battery to the trunk and the car wont start. it doesnt get enough JUICE if you know what i mean. What do i have to do to make this work? I even tried to jump the car while starting it and it just dies out when i turn the key you can hear a slight crank but thats it.



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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    what size cable are you using also how is it connected to the front terminals and the ground wire were is it grounded to

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    the cables in the front are all the same i spliced them into some amp wire its pretty thick but not as thick as the wire thats going to the starter its maybe a little more then half the size

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    Quote Originally Posted by levon2008 View Post
    the cables in the front are all the same i spliced them into some amp wire its pretty thick but not as thick as the wire thats going to the starter its maybe a little more then half the size
    you need at least a 4awg for the line at the least, a 2awg would be the best

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    Quote Originally Posted by ghettogeddy View Post
    you need at least a 4awg for the line at the least, a 2awg would be the best
    Thanks I figured something was funny

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    indeed smaller cables wont let as much current down the wire. i hope your not running a ground wire aswell. you just use the body of the car as that

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    When you say "splice" I hope you are talking about twisting them together and electrical taping them. Go buy the necessary length, start from scratch and do it right - or else your car will catch on fire.

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    what you need is a good heavy duty connector a good eather 2-4awg wire and some good electrical tape
    and hopefully you got a batt box with tie downs

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    yeah 2 guage wire is recommended....why did you move the batt to the trunk....i would only use a sealed batt because of fumes and stuff.

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    Quote Originally Posted by MessyHonda View Post
    yeah 2 guage wire is recommended....why did you move the batt to the trunk....i would only use a sealed batt because of fumes and stuff.
    i believe all batt are sealed now but i could be wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettogeddy View Post
    i believe all batt are sealed now but i could be wrong
    If you take off the top lids, fluid will come out.

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    Quote Originally Posted by ghettogeddy View Post
    i believe all batt are sealed now but i could be wrong
    Their not. They usually say something like mantence free, but they can still be opened.


    For a battery I would go with an optima or something similar.

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    yeah i would only put my battery in the boot id i had a sealed battery.

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    how did you connect the cables form the engine compartment?
    I used a fused wiring block when I did my relocation, so the wires go from the fuse housing to the block and the cable goes to the trunk.
    Here's the fuse block that I got

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    use the cables used to power welders. worked great on my 92 gti when i relocated the battery to the hatch.

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    Quote Originally Posted by picopop View Post
    how did you connect the cables form the engine compartment?
    I used a fused wiring block when I did my relocation, so the wires go from the fuse housing to the block and the cable goes to the trunk.
    Here's the fuse block that I got
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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    i would put mine in the boot if it was tiny small that it wouldnt take up much space

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    The easiest source of wire to find for this is to go to Autozone and get the heaviest set of jumper cables they sell. 4 gauge is ok, 2 gauge is better. Put a 150-200 amp fuse in line with the positive wire RIGHT AFTER THE BATTERY. This is so if that if the positive wire contacts the frame for whatever reason (like an accident) it won't start a fire.

    You shouldn't be using electrical tape either, or splicing wires. Run the positive wire from the battery fuse directly to the big lug on the starter. Then run another cable from the starter to the under hood fuse box. If you need more connections (like to an amp or something) run a cable from the starter to a distribution block first, and then to the under hood fuse box. Also, use the proper sized crimped lugs on the ends of the cables, not just bare wire.

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    SICK comments well i did splice the wires and electical taped them together like a cheap ass but hence i see alot of diffrent options i think that are alot better im going to go with those. I also ran the ground all the way up i wasnt thinking. Thanks AccordB20A for the idea of the body PicoPop your hella sick with the fuse box im going to jock that idea but im thinking of relocating it a bit. I was thinking of using the jumper cables cygnus x-1 but i have a better idea.... Theres a construction site right near here with really great electrical wire stuff used on light poles i think its thick enough.. As for the battery now im worried i picked one up from autozone it doesnt have any lids for fluids its maintance free. IS THIS BATTER OKAY? i have a 6 month year old daughter and dont want her to get ill off of fumes. Me if i was by myself hell i dont care but my daughter means alot to me. So if this isnt good then let me know oh also where is the boot id thing at?

    Thank you for all the input guys always appreciating it

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    One thing to remember is that if your battery says maintenance free that doesn't necessarily mean that it does not have acid in it.
    for a battery like that you still would have to make sure that it is properly vented in the trunk to prevent fumes from building up inside the car.
    Like EricW posted go with optima or since you got your battery at Kragens they sell one just like it which I used to have before purchasing my optima for the 3G

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    You can get 4ga or 2ga wire at a semi-truck repair or parts store along with the appropriate crimp on ends. Probably cheaper in the long run than jumper cables.
    We keep upto 1/0 wire here were I work. That is some real wire about as big around as most peoples thumb.

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    Quote Originally Posted by levon2008 View Post
    SICK comments well i did splice the wires and electical taped them together like a cheap ass but hence i see alot of diffrent options i think that are alot better im going to go with those. I also ran the ground all the way up i wasnt thinking. Thanks AccordB20A for the idea of the body PicoPop your hella sick with the fuse box im going to jock that idea but im thinking of relocating it a bit. I was thinking of using the jumper cables cygnus x-1 but i have a better idea.... Theres a construction site right near here with really great electrical wire stuff used on light poles i think its thick enough.. As for the battery now im worried i picked one up from autozone it doesnt have any lids for fluids its maintance free. IS THIS BATTER OKAY? i have a 6 month year old daughter and dont want her to get ill off of fumes. Me if i was by myself hell i dont care but my daughter means alot to me. So if this isnt good then let me know oh also where is the boot id thing at?

    Thank you for all the input guys always appreciating it

    Levon
    you have to watch out for the construction site wire its normally several small wires in one

    if you can get welding wire or someting high strand do so
    this seems to be a good deal
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-AWG...spagenameZWDVW
    but you can get this kind of stuff at home depot, lowes, ace, etc




    edit: or something like this http://cgi.ebay.com/Rockford-Fosgate...QQcmdZViewItem
    and for the ground
    http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Lightning-Au...QQcmdZViewItem
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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    Definitely look around for other sources for wire. But if you're buying new wire the jumper cables are actually a pretty good deal, especially if you can find them on sale. Also don't forget shipping if you mail order or go ebay.

    One other thing to consider, is that if you ever intend to run the car at a track or drag strip they will probably require that the battery be in a covered box, and that you have a cutoff switch accessible from outside the car somewhere near the trunk. I'm actually planning to undo my battery relocation because of this. I'm also planning to run a large-ish motorcycle battery instead of a full size car battery. We'll see how that works out.

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    Quote Originally Posted by cygnus x-1 View Post
    Definitely look around for other sources for wire. But if you're buying new wire the jumper cables are actually a pretty good deal, especially if you can find them on sale. Also don't forget shipping if you mail order or go ebay.

    One other thing to consider, is that if you ever intend to run the car at a track or drag strip they will probably require that the battery be in a covered box, and that you have a cutoff switch accessible from outside the car somewhere near the trunk. I'm actually planning to undo my battery relocation because of this. I'm also planning to run a large-ish motorcycle battery instead of a full size car battery. We'll see how that works out.

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    i plan on the trunk mount because im gona delete the key holes in the doors so if my batt dies i can still get to it


    its eather that or a 2nd hood release on the underside of the car

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    Re: moving battery to trunk??

    Quote Originally Posted by cygnus x-1 View Post
    The easiest source of wire to find for this is to go to Autozone and get the heaviest set of jumper cables they sell. 4 gauge is ok, 2 gauge is better. Put a 150-200 amp fuse in line with the positive wire RIGHT AFTER THE BATTERY. This is so if that if the positive wire contacts the frame for whatever reason (like an accident) it won't start a fire.

    You shouldn't be using electrical tape either, or splicing wires. Run the positive wire from the battery fuse directly to the big lug on the starter. Then run another cable from the starter to the under hood fuse box. If you need more connections (like to an amp or something) run a cable from the starter to a distribution block first, and then to the under hood fuse box. Also, use the proper sized crimped lugs on the ends of the cables, not just bare wire.

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    was going to post some pics of my project doing the same thing. you can use split bolt connectors to attach the wires together, both wires go through the split,then you torque the crap out of the nut, then wrap it in rubber tape,then in electrical tape. solid low resistance connection. as for the fuse,you need an amg type fuse and holder,you can get the 175 amp one at oreilies,but you need to order the holder. only reason i did a split,was i have a fuse block for distribution under the passenger seat,and i needed to tap four gauge wire off of it. they are a very strong solid way to connect wires together. you can get th split bolts in the electrical section at home depot. you need the largest one they have to connect 2- 2 gauge and one 4 gauge together. if you have an amp distribution block near the back of the car,it's best to tap right off of that main cable. anyway,heres the box the battery is going in,i'm using an odyssey pc268, they are considered safe for use in the passenger compartment
    this is a vintage tool box circa 1950's, going to leave the paint just the way it is, and bolt it behind the passenger seat. then i'll make bracketry inside of the box.

    going to mount an autometer sport comp voltmeter on the other end inside,and the amg fuse block in there as well,

    found a couple of vintage stickers for the box as well. only type of decorations it's getting.
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