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    cant pass smog... info inside

    ok my friends 3g isnt passing smog and the ecu is continuously flashing.. he told me what the smog (emissions test) told him and this is what he got

    at 15mph %co2 = 13.5 %02 = .2
    at 25mph %co2 = 14.1 %02 = .0

    HC (PPM)
    at 15mph max=124 meas=157
    at 25mph max=98 meas=96

    CO(%)
    at 15mph max=.78 meas=2.29
    at 25mph max=.66 meas=1.51

    NO(PPM)
    at 15mph max=815 meas=711
    at 25mph max=754 meas=383


    so i wanna know... what does all this mean? is it good or bad? and what can i do to make it pass california emissions laws
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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    well find out what code its flashing first would help

    also
    http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question...0222818AAqvyIF
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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    Quote Originally Posted by ghettogeddy View Post
    well find out what code its flashing first would help

    also
    http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question...0222818AAqvyIF
    the ecu is just constantly flashing.. never stops
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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987AccordLx-i View Post
    the ecu is just constantly flashing.. never stops
    there will be a pause for a couple of sec

    https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26342
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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    just to let everyone kno its my car that this is about and i'll take a video of the ecu so you can see but it just flashes over and over... with no pause

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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    Quote Originally Posted by 89coupe View Post
    just to let everyone kno its my car that this is about and i'll take a video of the ecu so you can see but it just flashes over and over... with no pause
    awesome man that would help a shitload
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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    i'll have it in about 2 or 3 hours cuz i have to go to the store real quick

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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    Quote Originally Posted by 89coupe View Post
    i'll have it in about 2 or 3 hours cuz i have to go to the store real quick
    ok then
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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    Based upon my experience from failing an emission inspection a couple of years ago and what I know about the control devices here is a set of possibilities.

    High HC is most likely O2 sensors needing replacement while high CO would indicate a bad catalytic converter. The EGR system reduces NOx emissions and it looks like you are OK there.

    My inspection showed high HC, but I had no check engine light. The sensors can be bad when they start to respond more slowly to O2 changes without being bad enough to trip the engine light. I would try replacing those first, throw a can of Berryman's Chemtool in with a fill up, and drive the car for a few days. You should pass HC. The CO may come down to normal, but if it's still high you may need a new cat as well.

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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    ok... will try this.. thanx....

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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    here's the video of my ecu



    it flashes 12 times and i ran out of memory
    Last edited by 89coupe; 07-30-2008 at 03:58 PM.

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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    looks like error code 1 to me (O2 sensor)

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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    even after the camera went off it just kept on flashing and didn't stop....

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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    well it looks like error code 1 to me because it's a long pause between them, meaning it's gonna tell you the error code again. do you get that when you first start the engine when it's cold? if not, then yeah i'm betting it's the o2 sensor

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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    well i dont start it... i just turn the key all the way on where all the lights turn on and thats wat it does

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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    Quote Originally Posted by 89coupe View Post
    well i dont start it... i just turn the key all the way on where all the lights turn on and thats wat it does
    start it and if its the same then its your o2 sensors

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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    k will do......... be back in a few minutes....

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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    Quote Originally Posted by ghettogeddy View Post
    start it and if its the same then its your o2 sensors
    k so i took another video when i started it and it still did the same thing...... im uploading the video right now..... be about 10-15 minutes

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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    here's the new video..... after i started it.....



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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    def a single blink means change them o2's

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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    Quote Originally Posted by ghettogeddy View Post
    def a single blink means change them o2's
    k well im gonna have to do it tomorrow..... or friday gotta wait till i get paid

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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    You can try and take them out and clean them off with a propane torch. I would also make sure the wires are hooked up and not frayed any where.



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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    As old as they are I would just replace them. I don't know enough about the pre-89 LXi's. I think the ones before 89 had the older style exhaust manifold that only has one O2 sensor. If you have two, replace them both. If you can afford it go with an OEM equivalent and not a "universal." Don't mess with cleaning, they are ready for the trash can.

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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    Quote Originally Posted by DBMaster View Post
    As old as they are I would just replace them. I don't know enough about the pre-89 LXi's. I think the ones before 89 had the older style exhaust manifold that only has one O2 sensor. If you have two, replace them both. If you can afford it go with an OEM equivalent and not a "universal." Don't mess with cleaning, they are ready for the trash can.
    yeah pre-88 models have one o2 sensor.. mine has one
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    Re: cant pass smog... info inside

    k thanx guys...... but looks like im gonna have to wait till tomorrow to even get the o2 sensors..... but now my starter is fried so i gotta get a new starter too

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