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    Question Is there a difference

    Does anyone know if there is a difference between a Fuel injected 4 door instrument cluster and a Carburator 4 door instrument cluster?
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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    Yes. Fuel injected one has a CEL and some had the PGMFI. Otherwise, I don't think there is a difference.
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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    Quote Originally Posted by russiankid View Post
    Yes. Fuel injected one has a CEL and some had the PGMFI. Otherwise, I don't think there is a difference.


    thats all i can think of but easily converted

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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    Is it worth buying the carb cluster with low miles. what is it that I need to do to convert it.
    Last edited by Timaculent; 09-10-2008 at 03:02 PM.
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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    what why do you need a new cluster

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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    what is a cel?

    Are all the connections the same.

    I just did a auto to 5 speed swap yesterday. Fingers hurts. I need a cluster for a 4 door manual.
    I found one but it is from a carb car though.
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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    Just swap the Temp/fuel gauge itself and keep the rest intact. It has to be from the same manufacturer tough (NS and Denso)

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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    Quote Originally Posted by carotman View Post
    Just swap the Temp/fuel gauge itself and keep the rest intact. It has to be from the same manufacturer tough (NS and Denso)
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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    CEL = check engine light
    should be PnP as far as I know

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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    i messed up the gauge cluster last time.

    So the carb has the cel and the fi has the PGM-FI light. I am just hoping for a cluster that i can plug in and go. Why would I have to swap the fuel temp. That is the one that I messed up last time. I found a carb with 87xxx miles. I wanted it but I want a plug and play. what should I do? What should I buy.
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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    Quote Originally Posted by Timaculent View Post
    i messed up the gauge cluster last time.

    So the carb has the cel and the fi has the PGM-FI light. I am just hoping for a cluster that i can plug in and go. Why would I have to swap the fuel temp. That is the one that I messed up last time. I found a carb with 87xxx miles. I wanted it but I want a plug and play. what should I do? What should I buy.
    just find a fi

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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    found and bought 123,000 no more automatic crap. thanks guys
    Last edited by Timaculent; 09-10-2008 at 04:08 PM.
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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    Fuel Injected models had a CEL and PGFMI light, well coupes had the PGMFI for sure. Carb'd models do not have any of those.
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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    carb's 13" rims. fi 13" or 14" rims might notice what it cam off of. speedo will be off with different tires

    "Weight is relative to power like time is relative to speed"

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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon1024 View Post
    carb's 13" rims. fi 13" or 14" rims might notice what it cam off of. speedo will be off with different tires
    thats not controlled by the gauges but by the speedo sensor in the trany lol

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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    i always thought it was in the dash that made the difference. in that case my speedo's been off a long time!

    "Weight is relative to power like time is relative to speed"

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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon1024 View Post
    i always thought it was in the dash that made the difference. in that case my speedo's been off a long time!
    ya the speedo sensor is in the 5 speed tranny right behind the starter

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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon1024 View Post
    carb's 13" rims. fi 13" or 14" rims might notice what it cam off of. speedo will be off with different tires
    The overall tire diameter stays the same.

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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    Quote Originally Posted by ghettogeddy View Post
    ya the speedo sensor is in the 5 speed tranny right behind the starter
    Its in the same location on the auto too. From what I know the speed sensor itself is the same between the 5-speed and auto. The only difference is the gearing inside the auto and 5-speed which the sensor is driven off of.
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    Re: Question Is there a difference

    carb clusters will make the VSS not work and there is no check engine light
    so ...
    DO NOT GET A CARB CLUSTER

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