Weird

[Dr_Snooz]

You have a shop manual right? You have to sit down with it and trace out the circuit. Perform the diagnostic for every module on the circuit. If they all check out, then you get to look for bad connections and jacked up wires.

Lucky you.

[lostforawhile]

that has to be a bad ground, that would explain the headlights being on dimly, something is trying to ground,and it's following the headlight path and causing ground current to flow through a headlight, this is also sending confusing signals to the headlight retractor motor control box , check all your grounds,look under the dash witha good flashlight. if something is supposed to have a ground, and it can't follow it's normal ground path,it's going to find a path through another circuit. do the accords there have the ground under the passenger seat? there is a major ground wire that goes to the seat frame. it comes from the dash.

[import racer]

Well I Checked By The Fuse Panel Under The Dash But Found No Grounds There.i Know There Is A Ground Under The Drivers Seat By The Control Modual,not Sure About Under Pass Seat.i'll Check That Out,electrical Is Not My Strong Suit,but I'll Keep Looking.thanks!

[lostforawhile]

Well I Checked By The Fuse Panel Under The Dash But Found No Grounds There.i Know There Is A Ground Under The Drivers Seat By The Control Modual,not Sure About Under Pass Seat.i'll Check That Out,electrical Is Not My Strong Suit,but I'll Keep Looking.thanks!

I know on my hatch there is one for the control box under one seat,then another under the passenger seat,the one under the passenger seat,it attached to the seat support framework,look around the edges of the carpet under the seat. also check your connector plugs under the dash make sure they are connected all the way together, I know on the USDM models,there is one if it comes loose,it causes this, talking about the large multiconnector plugs under the middle of the dash towards the front. they make look secure but they can be loose and not look like it.

[import racer]

found the ground under pass seat,it was corroded but i cleaned it up and no difference.the connector your talking about is it behind the radio or in that area.

[lostforawhile]

found the ground under pass seat,it was corroded but i cleaned it up and no difference.the connector your talking about is it behind the radio or in that area.

it's towards the middle of the dash,look under the dash just past the key surround area underneath should be a number of large multiconnector plugs together,possibly one blue and one yellow.

[import racer]

I'll check that out tommorrow too cold and dark tonight.How do i check for continuity in the headlight wire,i can't reach both ends of the headlight wires w/o taking out the harness.The leads on the meter aren't that long?

[lostforawhile]

I'll check that out tommorrow too cold and dark tonight.How do i check for continuity in the headlight wire,i can't reach both ends of the headlight wires w/o taking out the harness.The leads on the meter aren't that long?

I really think it's a ground, thats just too many oddball things at once. usually it has a common source as a ground wire,I also think there is a big ground behind the instrument cluster.

[import racer]

YEAH thats what i 've been told but it's such a pita trying to find it.DO you think i should pull the instruments and look behind there.

[lostforawhile]

YEAH thats what i 've been told but it's such a pita trying to find it.DO you think i should pull the instruments and look behind there.

if you know how, I can't remember exactly where that connector is, but i believe it's behind the cluster, also check the plugs at the back of the cluster, one of the grounds won't work if one of the plugs is loose.

[Dr_Snooz]

Hey Lost, I have a question: short of someone stabbing around under the dash with something sharp, how would a ground wire go bad like that?

[lostforawhile]

Hey Lost, I have a question: short of someone stabbing around under the dash with something sharp, how would a ground wire go bad like that?

they get corrosion under the terminals,or the bolts they are attached too get loose. it's common to have grounds going in something 20 plus years old.

[import racer]

Well I Think I Fixed Finally,there Is A Plug On Rad Support By Washer Jug With A Lot Of Wires To It.i Thought It Was Just Something That Wasn't Used,but After I Cleaned The Grease Off It I Saw They Were All Grounds Going To It.so I Cleaned Up Where It Bolts On And Used New Bolt.everything Seems To Be Ok Now.i'll Let You Know If It Stays Working.

[Keachman1]

Told ya so.......

[import racer]

Thanks.