Vtec possibilities...

[djcslice]

I am very keen on getting a VTEC thrown in one of these 3g's. The question I have is, which motor am I best off using fit wise?

I know that I will have difficulties with mounts, fuel system, axles, hubs

[blackcougar141]

Hey bro, check the search engine.....you can get mounts on here from time to time to do a b-series swap, and some have even went the non-vtec route and dropped in the B20a from the jdm accords......just food for thought.

[gfrg88]

fit wise?? as in which will fit better?? theyre all pretty much the same....jus boost the a20, cheaper and faster

[ghettogeddy]

prolly b18c1
* VTEC
* Found in:
o 1994-2001 Honda/Acura Integra GS-R (DC2 & DB8)
+ Displacement: 1797 cc
+ Compression: 10.0:1
+ Bore: 81 mm (3.189")
+ Stroke: 87.2 mm (3.433")
+ Rod Length: 137.9 mm (5.429")
+ Rod/Stroke Ratio: 1.58
+ Redline:
+ Power: 170 hp (127 kW) @ 7600 rpm & 128 ft·lbf (173 N·m) @ 6200 rpm
+ Transmission: Y80 yes

[djcslice]

I assume that when you mean "search engine" you mean the search function on the forums...

Does anyone specifically make the mounts or are they custom fab that people are parting with?

I am a mechanical engineering student and have the means to design mounts, It would just be less of a hassle if I could buy a set.

I could boost an A20, but id rather boost a B.....

[ghettogeddy]

I assume that when you mean "search engine" you mean the search function on the forums...

Does anyone specifically make the mounts or are they custom fab that people are parting with?

I am a mechanical engineering student and have the means to design mounts, It would just be less of a hassle if I could buy a set.

I could boost an A20, but id rather boost a B.....

no one actually makes them any more but from what ive heard there a couple floating around like one prelude power a guy is selling a lude with a bswap for 1k i think but it will def be cheaper to fab them up in the long run plus you make them right and sell them for a decent low price
people would buy them i knwo i would if i could get a set for like 250 or so

[Hash_man_Se_i]

I'm sorry, but damn... you have been around since 2005, and can't read a stickied thread before posting here... or scrolled down and seen one of the many threads on bswaps recently... wow.

https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=413

https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=413

https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=413

[3rdgenhatchDX]

I'm sorry, but damn... you have been around since 2005, and can't read a stickied thread before posting here... or scrolled down and seen one of the many threads on bswaps recently... wow.

https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=413

https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=413

https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=413

[djcslice]

Thanks, that thread helped me out SOOO much. It told me that basically any swap besides a JDM Accord motor would be difficult, A company USED to sell the mounts, shift linkage and wiring harnesses.

All I was looking for was some more details on all of the conversions I would need to do.

[87ludeITR]

I'm selling a full chassis with everything you need to put in a B-series into an accord.

e-mail me!

[email protected]

[2oodoor]

Thanks, that thread helped me out SOOO much. It told me that basically any swap besides a JDM Accord motor would be difficult, A company USED to sell the mounts, shift linkage and wiring harnesses.

All I was looking for was some more details on all of the conversions I would need to do.

2005, indeed, your screen name has been a member for a while
There is some pretty good info here somewhere, unfortunatley scantass's do not start the thread out with a title that is directly the topic so searches have to be done in 'advanced search' and then "all posts containing the search word(s)" instead of "search titles only" THAT would mean eye bleeding scrolling through and reading hundreds of posts, which I have done on many occasion and slightley resent those who do not want to do real reasearch. You have a good thread title so this would be a good place for those of you who may have real life V tec stuff to share....
No offense to you but I have known engineering students (and grads) that couldn't design a paper airplane that could fly.
Custom mounts can be made, from what I have seen there is not that much to them. I never have seen what the big "X files" secret was about them, people here are hoarding them like they were gold boulions.. they won't even leave pictures up of them because they are scared somebody will make a set for soooo much cheaper than they paid for them, and they are not even using them. Anyway, again you would need the engine you are installing and a car to put them in, from there it is a matter of making templates and models to set it. That will be the time you need to decide if you just want to do that one car or do you want to make it a kit form you can bolt up to existing car set ups. It is much easier to just make the one car work.

[GraniteLXI]

Its sad to hear that people would be hiding things like that, I mean this is a forum where we share everything and try and help each other out? It would be nice if we could get someone to fab us up some mounts to distribute among the members for a decent price, someone could make a very nice profit and everyone would be happy. Hell I would buy a 2nd 3gee that is just a rolling chassis to swap all that into if mounts were easily obtainable.

[A18A]

i accidently closed the link to the rest of the pics. oh well

[blackcougar141]

I didn't mean to bust your balls earlier, but seriously the mounts aren't impossible to find, sometimes there on here for sale as I said before. I've been on here off and on since 2006-thanks U.S. ARMY!---any way, the guys on here are great, and there's a world of knowledge on here, but just search bro.....

[Hash_man_Se_i]

^^ Yes, sometimes they are on here for sale... and rarely do they seem to actually sell, and if they do it usually takes waay longer then it should for how many people keep saying if mounts were available they would buy them.

[ghettogeddy]

^^ Yes, sometimes they are on here for sale... and rarely do they seem to actually sell, and if they do it usually takes waay longer then it should for how many people keep saying if mounts were available they would buy them.

nm did it all in caps dont want to re write it lol

[2drSE-i]

honestly if you cant afford 500 bucks for a set of mounts you probably shouldnt be driving a B-powered accord.

[Hash_man_Se_i]

^^ well i mean thats exactly it... if you can't afford 500 for mounts, then how do you plan on coming up with a couple grand for a motor, wiring, ecu, and other little things.

I know someone will probably flame me, and go for it... I have had my mounts sitting around for a while, and they will be going in this summer now that I can finally realistically afford it and have a good shell. I am not cheaping out on anything though thats why it has taken a while to get to where I am with my car, which doesn't look like much right now.

If you really want b-series mounts, I am all for it, I think it's great!... now go buy one of the sets that are currently for sale if you are truely serious, the one set is $500 i believe, the other is everything you need... or look at Vectors thread where he did the swap without PRI mounts.

[2drSE-i]

honestly, they are your mounts. You paid for them, i DONT want you to get them copied. Its really not your problem that other people werent around or dont want to spend that much money on them.

I really hate it when people start talking shit about Cheese for hording his mounts, and not offering to give up his time, mounts, and individuality so that everyone else can have some for cheaper. Lilxoxbit even offered to get his copied and sell them for 500, but there was no interest because people on this forum (myself included) are broke.


/end threadjack

im sure you have whats needed or you wouldnt even be talking about it, im just ranting.

[ghettogeddy]

honestly, they are your mounts. You paid for them, i DONT want you to get them copied. Its really not your problem that other people werent around or dont want to spend that much money on them.

I really hate it when people start talking shit about Cheese for hording his mounts, and not offering to give up his time, mounts, and individuality so that everyone else can have some for cheaper. Lilxoxbit even offered to get his copied and sell them for 500, but there was no interest because people on this forum (myself included) are broke.


/end threadjack

im sure you have whats needed or you wouldnt even be talking about it, im just ranting.

yes its messed to flame someone for not wanting to get mounts copyed but at the same time the 200 or whatever cost it would be to have them blueprinted would be worth something in the long run plus it givrs some of the members that cant afford to pay 500 for mounts the op to get them for cheaper
pri mounts are still going to be the better mount to have because everyone else will have copy's not originals lol to be honest if i had the money like some do i would be on top of getting them copyed but thats only cause i would have went from broke to somewhat wealthy and i would know what its like to not have the cash but have the ambition to want to b swap lol

[MessyHonda]

vtec is not everything...but DOHC is always good for tuning

[snoopyloopy]

vtec is pointless if power is what you want. many big power motors that come with vtec end up having the vtec disabled anyway. why? because vtec is there to give the race car performance out of your grocery-getter and still be able to get reasonable gas mileage. quite frankly, you could go with a b20a and get pretty sinister numbers and avoid the mounting fiasco. just have to get one imported instead of picking up a pick ls block and building an ls/vtec or similar...

[2oodoor]

honestly, they are your mounts. You paid for them, i DONT want you to get them copied. Its really not your problem that other people werent around or dont want to spend that much money on them.

I really hate it when people start talking shit about Cheese for hording his mounts, and not offering to give up his time, mounts, and individuality so that everyone else can have some for cheaper. Lilxoxbit even offered to get his copied and sell them for 500, but there was no interest because people on this forum (myself included) are broke.


/end threadjack

im sure you have whats needed or you wouldnt even be talking about it, im just ranting.

that did not happen in this thread did it? I mentioned BREIFLY the facts and as well a non insulting opinion on that fact, no names, no suggestions for anybody to do anything they don't want to do, and certainly no flame.

And thank you A18A for posting those pictures so all can see how simple theses things are. Actually most of those are motor supports, not mounts. If you get a B18(c) or B16 from a donar car you will get the motor supports with it, all you need to do it get some angle iron and some flat bar to weld up the adaptation set up to the cradle you are working with, and use your motor mount (isolators) or some other isolator from another FWD car.
The big cost of those PR mounts is the whole process of how they made them as a bolt in kit, materials (are those billet?) powder coating, etc.. This is not really the only way to do swaps, just the easiest.. and you pay for it.

[2drSE-i]

that did not happen in this thread did it? I mentioned BREIFLY the facts and as well a non insulting opinion on that fact, no names, no suggestions for anybody to do anything they don't want to do, and certainly no flame.

And thank you A18A for posting those pictures so all can see how simple theses things are. Actually most of those are motor supports, not mounts. If you get a B18(c) or B16 from a donar car you will get the motor supports with it, all you need to do it get some angle iron and some flat bar to weld up the adaptation set up to the cradle you are working with, and use your motor mount (isolators) or some other isolator from another FWD car.
The big cost of those PR mounts is the whole process of how they made them as a bolt in kit, materials (are those billet?) powder coating, etc.. This is not really the only way to do swaps, just the easiest.. and you pay for it.

no no no i wasnt attaching anyone in this thread i guess im still mad and bitter over past threads. Wasn't attacking anyone in particular.

[87ludeITR]

I have EVERYTHING you need for the B series into an accord FROM PLACERACING! Mounts, Axles, Shift Linkage, Wiring harness for OBD0- OBD2 engines! Just e-mail we'll talk.

[email protected]