PRI mounts, Here's your chance.

[RobT5580]

Phil bought these for his personal collection with no intentions of getting into this. Personally if i was sitting on the other end of the computer without mounts a $10-$20 fee is peanuts and already people don't want to invest or want money back. Im not backing phils decision but he is doing this for you guys and if i didn't have the mounts i would give him the money regaurdless.

This is off topic and im sure many that are here don't realize but 3geez had financial issues years ago and it took a lot of people to donate to keep the site up and running. I donated $50 or $100 without question because back in the day this site provided me with a lot of "know how" and in the long run saved me a lot of money allowing me to do things myself. And im not backing phils decesion so don't think im pushing this but you guys don't seem to get the big picture of how things work around here.

And many may not know but i have invested a lot of money into my B20A research and i have found a lot of things that i could have kept to myself or sold kits to profit from easily but i gladly posted my information. I did this because we had a guy with a B20A (one of the first running in the us) trying to sell us a "how to" guide to get ours going. That pissed me off enough to a point where i give all my information for free. I was the one that brough the ARP studs, Quaife LSD, Ferrea Valves, and many more things to table. And i have spent thousands on my setup and i could have kept things to myself but im not about that.

[ghettogeddy]

well as ive posted and no one seems to read tommy is buying the ebay ones unless phil has someone else lined to have them coppied the donation means nothing

[russiankid]

well as ive posted and no one seems to read tommy is buying the ebay ones unless phil has someone else lined to have them coppied the donation means nothing

Guess you didn't read either. He said the highest bidder retracted his bid, so as of now Tommy stands as the highest bidder. The auction has not ended yet, therefore anyone can still bid.

[stat1K]

As stated, "Non refundable deposit"

Rob has been paid.

no paypal information was stated so how do we go about paying you? posting if we are in means absolutely nothing.

also why is it non refundable? it should be refundable upon non completion, can you rationalize this a bit for me? if you have money to burn what's the difference? i don't make nearly 75$ an hour, about 59 dollars less than that and i'd say that my wage is about twice what most people here make lol... sad but true. i'll be waiting on an explanation if you care to give one. thanks...

[nswst8]

no paypal information was stated so how do we go about paying you? posting if we are in means absolutely nothing.

also why is it non refundable? it should be refundable upon non completion, can you rationalize this a bit for me? if you have money to burn what's the difference? i don't make nearly 75$ an hour, about 59 dollars less than that and i'd say that my wage is about twice what most people here make lol... sad but true. i'll be waiting on an explanation if you care to give one. thanks...

This is up to you all as a community, my time and effort and the expense of refunding 20-30 deposits. My earnings are a scale to show what it cost me to cordinate an effort like this. If you all have the mounts run with it. Congrats.

Now if your pissed off at what I earn, oh well. This I don't have to justify to anyone.

As an investor I can pretty much run with any deal I facilitate. This is the advantage of having access to funds.

I'm just providing a means to an end. B series mounts.

And if your not happy with the arrangement don't support it. Simple.

If we didn't make it to completion funds would be donated to the 3gee foundatiion.

Support your community.

[ghettogeddy]

This is up to you all as a community, my time and effort and the expense of refunding 20-30 deposits. My earnings are a scale to show what it cost me to cordinate an effort like this. If you all have the mounts run with it. Congrats.

Now if your pissed off I earn what I do, oh well. This I don't have to justify to anyone.

As an investor I can pretty much run with any deal I facilitate. This is the advantage of having access to funds.

I'm just providing a means to an end. B series mounts.

And if your not happy with the arrangement don't support it. Simple.

If we didn't make it to completion funds would be donated to the 3gee foundatiion.

Support your community.

no not pissed off about what you make i can give 2 poops about that lol but i do make lil to nothing and if im gona toss a non refundable donation to something that i may not have to (at the moment) wouldent that be the correct action for the poor folk on the fourms

dont get me wont if tommy needs some donations i will gladly help specially if he wins them

[2oodoor]

I can understand both sides so i wont comment.

I take this as you and TWOLOUDNPROUD have discussed this?

What is TWOLOUDNPROUDs thought's on all of this?

I will do what ever it takes to help the community.
I'll drop $20 once TWOLOUDNPROUD chimes in and gives us his thoughts and a formal agreement has been made.

THIS is highly relevant to the current proposal, I agree.

[nswst8]

To those that already donated, I have not yet accepted payment.

I'll wait until Tommy's input as to the status of the mounts.

If he has the mounts and moves forward with his plan, I won't accept the funds already sent. This way no one is out anything as of yet.

If it is still needed, my offer still stands.

I will ask that should Tommy have the mounts we all assist him with the cost. This way he is not shouldering the entire burden of R&D for the benefit of the community.

[ghettogeddy]

To those that already donated, I have not yet accepted payment.

I'll wait until Tommy's input as to the status of the mounts.

If he has the mounts and moves forward with his plan, I won't accept the funds already sent. This way no one is out anything as of yet.

If it is still needed, my offer still stands.

I will ask that should Tommy have the mounts we all assist him with the cost. This way he is not shouldering the entire burden of R&D for the benefit of the community.

sounds like a plan last i checked he won the bidding on ebay

[stat1K]

This is up to you all as a community, my time and effort and the expense of refunding 20-30 deposits. My earnings are a scale to show what it cost me to cordinate an effort like this. If you all have the mounts run with it. Congrats.

Now if your pissed off at what I earn, oh well. This I don't have to justify to anyone.

As an investor I can pretty much run with any deal I facilitate. This is the advantage of having access to funds.

I'm just providing a means to an end. B series mounts.

And if your not happy with the arrangement don't support it. Simple.

If we didn't make it to completion funds would be donated to the 3gee foundatiion.

Support your community.

k problem solved, i will not be one of the ones supporting your effort. and i'm not mad at what you make, i'm 22 years old... not surprisingly i'm sure you are a tad older than i, good luck in your endeavor however it may turn out.

[nswst8]

Refunds issued.

Thanks all to who supported this effort.

[nswst8]

k problem solved, i will not be one of the ones supporting your effort. and i'm not mad at what you make, i'm 22 years old... not surprisingly i'm sure you are a tad older than i, good luck in your endeavor however it may turn out.

But, it seems your having alittle investor trouble, oh wow.

[guaynabo89]

Sell em to me and I'll see about making duplicates with maybe a small production run of 5 or so. I have no intentions of putting a b in my accord but would do this if there was support

[ghettogeddy]

Sell em to me and I'll see about making duplicates with maybe a small production run of 5 or so. I have no intentions of putting a b in my accord but would do this if there was support

https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67228

[stat1K]

But, it seems your having alittle investor trouble, oh wow.

don't know what that means other than i am having trouble putting money into a car i don't own? this is probably the lowest priority on my list currently...

[nswst8]

Never had any intention of selling the mounts. Just making the comment about them needing to raise funds for their mounts.

[ghettogeddy]

don't know what that means other than i am having trouble putting money into a car i don't own? this is probably the lowest priority on my list currently...

then to be absultly ownest why are you here lol you dont own a 3g yet your complaing about something

lets just drop this mess tommy won the ebay mounts 4 of us donated 100 for them newest is fornt my part till the 9th

b series mounts shoudl be poping up in a few months

[nswst8]

don't know what that means other than i am having trouble putting money into a car i don't own? this is probably the lowest priority on my list currently...

Who came thru for the last 2 spots for the members of this board?

[2oodoor]

don't know what that means other than i am having trouble putting money into a car i don't own? this is probably the lowest priority on my list currently...

Civic owners beware
why were you so concerned before then? hmph whatever...lets move on

[markmdz89hatch]

alrighty then....

so let's see how Tommy makes out with the mounts. Do we know what member (if so) was actually auctioning them?

As Phil and others have mentioned, I would highly suggest (if you intend to one day exploit Tommy's efforts and buy a set of mounts made from his prints) that you either outright donate to offset his expense, or if he works out an arrangement with a fabricator for a g/b, that he thinks about taking upfront deposits to secure a spot on a first run, which would also help offset his out-of-pocket expense.

edit: Just to be crystal clear... I'm not telling anyone what to do, nor endorsing anyone in this project. I don't have any skin in the game on this, and can't involve myself as a 3geez staff member in endorsing sales/auctions/gb's etc someone wants to coordinate. That said, I do commend Phil for his generous offering. To think that 60 people (give or take) couldn't step up to the plate (especially if they're considering a B swap needing these mounts) is ridiculous. I have no intention of doing the swap, and have no interest in it, but if it came down to it I would be one of the names on that list of donors merely as a thank you for the cause. My hat goes off to Tommy and Phil for trying to trudge through this mess for the better of the board.

Side note. Guy, I can't believe you mentioned the GT right after the 3G. I've had 3 of them by now, and have yet to see one through completion. I WILL own another one. Damn you. ;o)

[ghettogeddy]

alrighty then....

so let's see how Tommy makes out with the mounts. Do we know what member (if so) was actually auctioning them?

As Phil and others have mentioned, I would highly suggest (if you intend to one day exploit Tommy's efforts and buy a set of mounts made from his prints) that you either outright donate to offset his expense, or if he works out an arrangement with a fabricator for a g/b, that he thinks about taking upfront deposits to secure a spot on a first run, which would also help offset his out-of-pocket expense.

edit: Just to be crystal clear... I'm not telling anyone what to do, nor endorsing anyone in this project. I don't have any skin in the game on this, and can't involve myself in what sales/auctions/gb's etc someone wants to coordinate. That said, I do commend Phil for his generous offering. To think that 60 people (give or take) couldn't step up to the plate (especially if they're considering a B swap needing these mounts) is ridiculous. I have no intention of doing the swap, and have no interest in it, but if it came down to it I would be one of the names on that list of donors. My hat goes off to Tommy and Phil for trying to trudge through this mess for the better of the board.

Side note. Guy, I can't believe you mentioned the GT right after the 3G. I've had 3 of them by now, and have yet to see one through completion. I WILL own another one. Damn you. ;o)

well we got 4 people that are helping pay for the mounts and that are gona be getting a set of them for the 100

i really for some reason dont think there gone be super expensive

i dont think he would out him self that much money lol mabye a a few bucks like 100-200 max for all 4 but i dont see them being to much

[markmdz89hatch]

damn, more power to Tommy if he's able to get someone to fab them up and sell them for $100-200 per set with bushings, etc. If that's the case then that's a damn good deal. I can't help but think that's a far cry from what he'll be able to get them for.

Anyway, what all the controversy over this thread boils down to is the cost at which Phil will offer up these mounts for fab work. Basically he was asking the community to come up with $600 for him to ship the mounts to Tommy for fab work, then have Tommy ship them back to him. If that was too much, that's a matter of opinion, and that's really all it is.

Everyone needs to remember that we're just all here for the progression of the 3G, and opening doors that otherwise wouldn't exist let alone be there but closed.

Let's just see what Tommy is able to come up with. I'm excited to know someone's enabling the B swap for members that couldn't get their hands on a PR set.

[nswst8]

Just glad to have been helpful.

Happy New Year All.