Oil pan gasket leaking

[russiankid]

^^ My brother and I did mine 8 times...quiet down.

[Dr_Snooz]

Did you torque in proper sequence? If not, you probably have a fold in those spots.

I wish Honda (or someone) would make a gasket with smaller bolts holes. It would be nice if they were small enough to hold the bolts while you get the thing into place.

[SILENT]

^^ My brother and I did mine 8 times...quiet down.

Its just freaking frustrating!!!

Did you torque in proper sequence? If not, you probably have a fold in those spots.

I wish Honda (or someone) would make a gasket with smaller bolts holes. It would be nice if they were small enough to hold the bolts while you get the thing into place.

Nope I didnt have my manual handy... and michell ondemand didnt have it @ work so kinda freestyled it!!! what page is it on the shop manual... i was looking but that thing is huge!!!

Well i try and torque them again since i didnt go to all the way to 14nm... If not I will order one from Honda and do it again!!!

[lostforawhile]

listen you need to get some gasket adhesive,it's not a sealer,but it will allow you to glue the gasket to the pan before you put it on. make sure the surface for the gasket is super clean,before you glue it on. it takes a while to set,so be prepared to let it sit for a few hours. you need just a little bit of sealer in the corners on the block, when you glue the gasket use something to line up the holes on the pan with the gasket, i use #2 pencils. once it sets the gasket won't shift while you install it. much eaisier then trying to glue it to the block. tighten the bolts in a criss cross pattern, you don't need a torque wrench if you can figure out ten inch pounds, it's not much, if you overtighten, the gasket will be squeezed out. if you have crankcase pressure blowing out the gasket, you need to check your pcv system. you have other problems not related to the gasket.

[Dr_Snooz]

The torque sequence isn't in the manual. You just start in the middle and work outward in an X pattern. You do it so it doesn't end up leaking...

[SILENT]

listen you need to get some gasket adhesive,it's not a sealer,but it will allow you to glue the gasket to the pan before you put it on. make sure the surface for the gasket is super clean,before you glue it on. it takes a while to set,so be prepared to let it sit for a few hours. you need just a little bit of sealer in the corners on the block, when you glue the gasket use something to line up the holes on the pan with the gasket, i use #2 pencils. once it sets the gasket won't shift while you install it. much eaisier then trying to glue it to the block. tighten the bolts in a criss cross pattern, you don't need a torque wrench if you can figure out ten inch pounds, it's not much, if you overtighten, the gasket will be squeezed out. if you have crankcase pressure blowing out the gasket, you need to check your pcv system. you have other problems not related to the gasket.

Well i dont know about the crankcase pressure... i just did a head job so i changed the pcv hose under the intake manifold and the pcv itself and i also added a little valve cover breather filter!!! the weird thing is that it only leaks when the car is on!!! im going to go ahead and tighten up to 14nm and see... if it leaks i will buy a honda gasket and use the adhesive... ps i tried the loctite copper gasket adhesive but i sprayed it on the oil pan... didnt have time to wait since i was @ work!!!

The torque sequence isn't in the manual. You just start in the middle and work outward in an X pattern. You do it so it doesn't end up leaking...

oh ok i thought there was a specific sequence... i did do that x pattern... i guess i fucked up somewhere!!! i guess ima skip the torque wrench!!! next time

[lostforawhile]

Well i dont know about the crankcase pressure... i just did a head job so i changed the pcv hose under the intake manifold and the pcv itself and i also added a little valve cover breather filter!!! the weird thing is that it only leaks when the car is on!!! im going to go ahead and tighten up to 14nm and see... if it leaks i will buy a honda gasket and use the adhesive... ps i tried the loctite copper gasket adhesive but i sprayed it on the oil pan... didnt have time to wait since i was @ work!!!





oh ok i thought there was a specific sequence... i did do that x pattern... i guess i fucked up somewhere!!! i guess ima skip the torque wrench!!! next time

the stuff i'm talking about isn't a sealer, it's a gasket adhesive,it's only reason is to glue the gasket to the pan, the rubber gasket makes the seal,not sealer. if it leaks while it's on,make sure it's not your crank seal, it will look just like the pan is leaking, if it's not that you have too much crankcase pressure and it can't escape for some reason.

[SILENT]

well tomorrow i will try to tighten it up again this time to 14nm... if it still leaks i have a oem honda gasket ready!!! ill let you guys know with the progress... and this time no rtv!!!

[russiankid]

Use Honda Bond...trust me.

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whats that???

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where can i buy oe honda liquid gasket??? part number 08718-550000... Ive look @ hondapartsdeals.com and nothing!!!

[russiankid]

At the dealer. Ask for Honda bond. Its great stuff. You put it in the corners like RTV.

[Rendon LX-i]

See thats where i fucked up....i put gasket maker or a light coat over the pan first then i put the gasket on..leaks on the coners...

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well i put a lil rtv on the center studs to hold the olympus gasket onto place!!! apprently thats was a big no no and it blew the gasket str8 out!!! Got a honda gasket and i will be using OE honda liquid gasket!!! I hope this will be the last time!!! It kinda embarrasing having white smoke coming out under your car!!!

[russiankid]

I only have some oil seeping at a few bolts. Its not enough for me to bother with again.

[Rendon LX-i]

same here.........couple drops

[Dr_Snooz]

I've done two with no leaks. At all. The gasket maker/sealer/gluer/whatever is not the problem. I smeared it all over everything the first time and just the corners the second time. it didn't make a difference except that the first one was a bigger mess to clean up. You must take care to ensure that the gasket seats properly, is torqued properly and in the proper sequence.

[2ndGenGuy]

I just did mine tonight. I used small zip ties in all the holes except for the holes where there are studs on the block. That held it on nice and tight, then I hand tightened the nuts onto the studs, and cut the zip ties off and put the bolt in one at a time. Then none of it comes out of alignment.

[Rendon LX-i]

seems like dont drip as much as the first time so idk

[russiankid]

Mine doesn't drip it just puts a small film of oil on the pan on the side. Its not enough to even get to the bottom of the pan.

[Tdurr]

^^ thats how mine is. Its kinda annoying.

[russiankid]

After fucking with it 8 times, I can deal with this type of leak.

[SILENT]

I just did mine tonight. I used small zip ties in all the holes except for the holes where there are studs on the block. That held it on nice and tight, then I hand tightened the nuts onto the studs, and cut the zip ties off and put the bolt in one at a time. Then none of it comes out of alignment.

That is an awesome method... I definately i will try this!!!

[SILENT]

Well i tried the zip tie method like 2ndGenGuy did and it was a great idea... i use it with a oem gasket and hondabond.... AND NO LEAKS!!!!!! Im so happy!!! Thanks alot you guys for all the information!!! and Rendon im sorry for the thread jack!!!

[Rendon LX-i]

LOL....no problem...its all good...now i know