SAFC Wiring

[mushroom_toy]

it should be a orange/blue wire.
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Those wire colors dont match up though according to the other wires.

[89T]

the 88 and 89 use different colors.


did someone shut down the pinout site.
i get a broken link message.

[89T]

i used the tdc input. orange/blue connector c position c3

[89T]

fuck. let me pull my seat and look at the old wiring.

[mushroom_toy]

OK well I see TDC input in the harness on both pinouts and it is the orange and blue wire. XD If it was working for you I guess Ill run mine tomorrow.

[Rendon LX-i]

lol...i was going to pull my seat to if i have to guys.....let me know

[89T]

ok ecu color first then safc color second
connector a
black--->black & brown wires(ground)
yellow/black----->red (switched hot)

connector b
blue/red----->blue(o2 voltage)

connector c
white/blue----->white(map engine side)
white/blue----->yellow(map ecu side)
red/yellow----->grey(tps)
orange/blue----->green(rpm signal)

[Tdurr]

hmm.. i might go fix this right now. then let u kno if the orange/blue works....

[Tdurr]

Woot. The TDC wire works. SOoo in the sticky put down the last diagram u posted up 89T.

[Rendon LX-i]

FUCKING STUPID........^^^^.....JK lol

[89T]

Those wire colors dont match up though according to the other wires.

can you delete the pic/diagram. i dont want anyone getting confused.
i edited the how to,and some of my posts to kill any possible confusion.

[89T]

Woot. The TDC wire works. SOoo in the sticky put down the last diagram u posted up 89T.

the sticky has been deleted and re written.

[Rendon LX-i]

well the harness is different since your 88/89 correct? a

[mushroom_toy]

No wires at least in my car are the same as Tims and im an 86.

[89T]

so you are saying that they are the same,or different?
i am stumped. the first portion of the original sticky (89 sedan) was missing the tps and rpm wires. i dont know what happend, i must have just not have typed them in.

the second portion(or the pic) was written down as i removed the safc from the 88 coupe.
they were noticeably different.
the only other thing i can think of is the sedan was originally an automatic.

so, what i have in post #32 matches what you have.
i know it worked well in my car.

[mushroom_toy]

Yeah post #32 is good. I got my orange/blue hooked up now and the rpms are pretty much perfect match to the tach. As far as I know anyway Mine are the exact same colors....so maybe 86 lxis and 88-89 are the same.

[87roach]

Glad you got it sorted out.

So what's a good SAFC to invest in?

[Tdurr]

the first gen kind since we are obd0. or u can get a 2nd gen safc. Just dont get a Vafc.

[Rendon LX-i]

Ummm...weird reason beening i used 89t wiring diagram and it wasnt close to the wires on the ecu...thats way back then thou...so thats why i asked for a pinout and form there it was cake....

[mushroom_toy]

Ummm...weird reason beening i used 89t wiring diagram and it wasnt close to the wires on the ecu...thats way back then thou...so thats why i asked for a pinout and form there it was cake....

The old diagram (the picture, not the written) was wrong. Thats what I said earlier lol. For me anyway the wire colors did not match up on the other stuff.

[87roach]

the first gen kind since we are obd0. or u can get a 2nd gen safc. Just dont get a Vafc.

Not really much of an anwser..

What kinds are there? How much? etc.

What about the OBD1 guys, with/without turbo?

I've just checked out apexi, there must be some other companies.

['A20A3']

SAFC = old skool OBD-0 Tuning

fuel map control.

[Rendon LX-i]

bingo

[87roach]

I don't think you read my post.

[Tdurr]

I don't think you read my post.

apexi is the only company that makes AFC. There are like 3-4 types, A SAFC, SAFC2, VAFC, and Super VAFC or something stupid.

Safc is the first and simplest works great with OBD0 Cars cuz no useless features.
around $80-130

SAFC2 is like the first but slimmer and with more features(cant use on obd0 cars) $100-150

VAFC is a Vtec Air Flow controller. We dont have vtec lol
Dono the price.

last one is just dumb.