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    help help help

    while driving my accord
    on the interstate
    i reach speeds of 80mph
    when i braked
    the car shook violently

    not sure whats wrong
    any ideas?



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    Re: help help help

    and also i alrdy considered the rotors being warped
    already replaced them
    still continued to shake
    maybe new brake pads
    but the pads that are on it now are pretty new

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    Its worn parts in the front end. tie rods, ball joints, upper control arms all need to be checked out.

    Do a search for "Standard front end check" under my name I did a write up I dont have it on this computer. it doesnt cost you anything but time jacking up one side of the car.



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    Re: help help help

    thanks;
    by the time this is all over with
    ill end up replacing everything in the front end
    lol
    i dont mind
    i just need more money (:

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    check summit racing for parts they carry moog and you'll be suprised at how cheap they sell this stuff. try to stick with OEM , moog, or nappa brand .try to stay away from autozoned or unadvanced's parts, not worth the money and usually junk.

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    Re: help help help

    yea already had to put new cv axels in the car
    due to the fact they were clicking like a bitch
    then brake rotors when i come across the car shaking while braking
    just got 4 new tires yesterday

    lol

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    Re: help help help

    Quote Originally Posted by ps2man21 View Post
    while driving my accord
    on the interstate
    i reach speeds of 80mph
    when i braked
    the car shook violently

    not sure whats wrong
    any ideas?
    LOL, your post looks like some kind of haiku.

    "Fallen sick on a journey,
    In dreams I run wildly
    Over a withered moor."

    (http://www.toyomasu.com/haiku/)

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    Re: help help help

    Quote Originally Posted by ps2man21 View Post
    yea already had to put new cv axels in the car
    due to the fact they were clicking like a bitch
    then brake rotors when i come across the car shaking while braking
    just got 4 new tires yesterday

    lol
    alignment? i wouldn't put new tires on until you rebuild the suspension and fix the alignment, the upper control arms will cause wierd camber problems if they are worn out.

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    Re: help help help

    well what do you all suggest i do to fix this problem
    what should i look at replacing first

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    Re: help help help

    and as far a alignment goes
    i read somewhere that alignment doesnt cause the car to shake
    just to pull in one direction and wear on the tires

    the car does pull just a tiny bit left just a tiny bit but nothin i was concerned with right away

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps2man21 View Post
    and as far a alignment goes
    i read somewhere that alignment doesnt cause the car to shake
    just to pull in one direction and wear on the tires

    the car does pull just a tiny bit left just a tiny bit but nothin i was concerned with right away
    if your toe is screwy or your alignment is messed up,sure the car is going to shake, if it's toed in the car is skipping down the road on the edges of the tire. same with toed out but on a different part of the tire.

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    Re: help help help

    The rotors or drums are probly warped, just take it into a shop and ask them to resurface them.

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    Re: help help help

    if its shaking in the front its not the rear drums....thats like a rare deal with it comes to drums

    jack up the front...move well side to side an up and down. if you see any play then you have to replace the joints or tie rods ends either one.....R cars are 23years old or so they going to need some TLC......

    Other thing since you replace your rotors and your having the same problem you might have sticky calipers....so it over heats then when you brake there for not releasing when you hard brake....thus wraping em again. common deal.


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    Re: help help help

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Snooz View Post
    LOL, your post looks like some kind of haiku.

    "Fallen sick on a journey,
    In dreams I run wildly
    Over a withered moor."

    (http://www.toyomasu.com/haiku/)

    You must be an English major. I am too. Welcome!

    Yay English Majors!!! What do you do for a living?

    Back to the topic at hand, I have had new rotors come warped out of the box. That was an experience I never want to repeat. Nothing like having a simple job go straight to hell. Also check all of the bushings, and every ball joint in the front suspension. Check for movement in the steering rack. Finally look for damage to the major components.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mephi View Post
    Yay English Majors!!! What do you do for a living?

    Back to the topic at hand, I have had new rotors come warped out of the box. That was an experience I never want to repeat. Nothing like having a simple job go straight to hell. Also check all of the bushings, and every ball joint in the front suspension. Check for movement in the steering rack. Finally look for damage to the major components.
    Mostly I build spreadsheets oddly enough. ?? The stores like to say they sell rotors that don't need to be turned prior to install but they've obviously never tried them out.
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    Re: help help help

    Hah my girlfriend is an English Major. She works for a heavy vehicle registration office.

    I make it a rule to open the box at the parts counter and inspect the part before I leave the store with it. I've sent back 3 master cylinders for my car, 1 for my Chev truck and one clutch cylinder for my Toy truck because of stripped threads, right in the store. Maybe for brake rotors I should bring a small lathe and dial indicator? Or a surface plate and feeler gauges?
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    Re: help help help

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Snooz View Post
    Mostly I build spreadsheets oddly enough. ?? The stores like to say they sell rotors that don't need to be turned prior to install but they've obviously never tried them out.

    Right now I deliver pizza, but will hopefully be working for the Navy as a mechanic in about a month. Not exactly what I expected when I thought to myself, "I think I'm going to major in English."


    About the warped rotors, it is apparently a more common problem than I had thought when I first installed them. Several long time mechanics I have worked with, or who taught me have had similar problems. It is still fairly rare though.
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    Re: help help help

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    alignment? i wouldn't put new tires on until you rebuild the suspension and fix the alignment, the upper control arms will cause wierd camber problems if they are worn out.
    my left front side has insane negative camber... i was thinking it was the upper ball joint goin out... what would be the problem? please help.. i have to replace the dam tire like every 500 miles
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1987AccordLx-i View Post
    my left front side has insane negative camber... i was thinking it was the upper ball joint goin out... what would be the problem? please help.. i have to replace the dam tire like every 500 miles
    Ball joint(s), bearing failure(you'd probably notice the noise with this one though), bushings on either the upper or lower control arm, or accident damage, bending the arms or body.
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    Re: help help help

    hopefully goin this weekend to get some new calipers and take the rotors i just bought back to get them replaced since there still much under warranty

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    Quote Originally Posted by ps2man21 View Post
    hopefully goin this weekend to get some new calipers and take the rotors i just bought back to get them replaced since there still much under warranty
    You could always just have them turned. They might do it for free...the store I went to did.
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    Re: help help help

    +1 on the ball joints upper/lower
    check the boots on them. cracked or torn = replace
    might not be easy to move around, try using a long bar pried against something to move them. but if the boots are done the joint probly is too

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    Quote Originally Posted by mephi View Post
    Ball joint(s), bearing failure(you'd probably notice the noise with this one though), bushings on either the upper or lower control arm, or accident damage, bending the arms or body.
    na the bearings dont make noise at all.. and the boots are gone on the upper one.. i can see the joint.. i was thinking on just getting the whole upper arm from the pick-a-part.. worth it?


    Quote Originally Posted by Demon1024 View Post
    +1 on the ball joints upper/lower
    check the boots on them. cracked or torn = replace
    might not be easy to move around, try using a long bar pried against something to move them. but if the boots are done the joint probly is too
    is it easy to remove the lower ball joint? i heard its hell
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    Re: help help help

    today i decided to hop in the accord and take it down the road to see in what situations it started to shake when i applied brake;
    well
    for the first couple of miles i didnt have any problems at all
    it wasnt until i hit a long road with no stop light that i had a problem
    i would reach a speed of about 55 to 65 and apply the brake
    and wouldnt you know
    shakin like a bitch

    i also noticed when i applied the brake without holding the steering wheel
    it would sort of jerk to the left

    any suggestions

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    Re: help help help

    Sticking caliper and warped rotors? Replace the calipers and have the rotors turned. Also some possibility of tire being out of balance.
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