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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    Looking good man!!!. I could probably come help you Saturday morning...as its not looking like Im gonna get my engine together lol....you dont know how to do porting do you? I need to port my head and stuff but dont have all the tools/knowledge.
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    I have never done a port and polish but Ive seen it done several times. I dont believe porting is all that difficult; it seems to be all about technique. There is plenty of information on the net though. Just remember: DO NOT remove too much metal. What tools do you need; I might have them...

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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    Ive got a carbide cutter and some sanding discs for my dremel which im gonna try to make work, but need the burrs, but cant find em anywhere.
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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    Do you mean like "rotary files" if yes, I have so many of those it would make your jaw drop. CK out this link and see if we're on the same page...

    http://www.northerntool.com/images/p.../170966_lg.jpg

    Decide which ones you need and let me know. I have small ones for dremel tools and I have larger ones for pneumatic tools. I can give you a few to get you started...

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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    car has come a long way. are you going to the Raleigh meet?
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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by 88LXi68 View Post
    car has come a long way. are you going to the Raleigh meet?
    I wish I could but you see Im one of those married kinda guys and my wife is kinda opposed to it.

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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    tell Jen to go! it can be a family trip! I'm sure ur kids would love seeing the road and NC. haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tdurr View Post
    tell Jen to go! it can be a family trip! I'm sure ur kids would love seeing the road and NC. haha
    Nah, Mr. Big and Bad-hahaha-You tell her! You deal with all the lip youre gonna get--hahaha

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    next time i talk to her ill ask her about it hahaha.

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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Tdurr View Post
    next time i talk to her ill ask her about it hahaha.
    tell her the benefits of having a weekend away from the kids!
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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    Tim, tell Luke I got the rotary files if he needs them

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    I sure will next time i talk to him.

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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    Me and TDurr picked up a set of Se-i rear brake assys last night and I didnt know the prop valve had to be changed to a 4040. I stumbled on the car as I was leaving the yard. I was pretty amazed to see the rear end was still intact. Well I got the entire brake, e-brake and trailing arm assy with all of the brackets. The only bad thing for me is, that jive turkey Tim grabbed the prop valve for his car LMAO---its all good (I got to give you some shit atleast) and thanks for your help yesterday little brotha, I couldnt have done it w/out cha!

    So, Im left perplexed with a load of questions ;

    Is there another car I can pull a prop valve from like a lude, teg or CB7? Can my stock valve be drilled? Should I go back and get the ECU from the Se-i, is there anything significant about it from the Lx-i? The Se-i was a sedan so will the e-brake cables be too long or maybe too short for my hatch?

    Just so you know I gave the center console (armrest) to Mushroom Toy and the cup holder was already snatched

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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    Hey Tim, before you toss your old valve maybe we can clean it if you think its clogged. Brake cleaner and compressed air go a long way.

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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by peteandjenn View Post
    Me and TDurr picked up a set of Se-i rear brake assys last night and I didnt know the prop valve had to be changed to a 4040. I stumbled on the car as I was leaving the yard. I was pretty amazed to see the rear end was still intact. Well I got the entire brake, e-brake and trailing arm assy with all of the brackets. The only bad thing for me is, that jive turkey Tim grabbed the prop valve for his car LMAO---its all good (I got to give you some shit atleast) and thanks for your help yesterday little brotha, I couldnt have done it w/out cha!

    So, Im left perplexed with a load of questions ;

    Is there another car I can pull a prop valve from like a lude, teg or CB7? Can my stock valve be drilled? Should I go back and get the ECU from the Se-i, is there anything significant about it from the Lx-i? The Se-i was a sedan so will the e-brake cables be too long or maybe too short for my hatch?

    Just so you know I gave the center console (armrest) to Mushroom Toy and the cup holder was already snatched
    I think the first gen teg is the same anyone? I know it has the same master cyl part number as the three g and it has rear discs, my bet would be it's the same thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteandjenn View Post
    Hey Tim, before you toss your old valve maybe we can clean it if you think its clogged. Brake cleaner and compressed air go a long way.
    I wouldn't try to clean it, it's a sliding valve, once it corrodes it's finished, if it sticks again under hard braking, the car may do something weird as far as handling or sliding. they don't clog, brake fluid attracts water, (hydroscopic) and the water corrodes the inside of those parts. under emergency braking, it limits the pressure to the back wheels temporarily, this stops the back from locking up first and the car coming around ass first.

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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    I think the first gen teg is the same anyone? I know it has the same master cyl part number as the three g and it has rear discs, my bet would be it's the same thing
    Thanks Lost

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    I wouldn't try to clean it, it's a sliding valve, once it corrodes it's finished, if it sticks again under hard braking, the car may do something weird as far as handling or sliding. they don't clog, brake fluid attracts water, (hydroscopic) and the water corrodes the inside of those parts. under emergency braking, it limits the pressure to the back wheels temporarily, this stops the back from locking up first and the car coming around ass first.
    Doesnt it figure. I've never disassembled one but I thought it would be a simple (flow) restrictor type.

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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by peteandjenn View Post
    Thanks Lost



    Doesnt it figure. I've never disassembled one but I thought it would be a simple (flow) restrictor type.
    i don't think you can even take them apart, i know in everything i've seen it says non serviceable

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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    i don't think you can even take them apart, i know in everything i've seen it says non serviceable
    No doubt.

    Well I went back to the yard to do some homework and made some interesting discoveries. You may already know this but it seems to be a toss up as to what cars use the 40/40 prop valve. I looked at an '88 teg and saw that its valve looks just like ours so I pulled it out figuring with disc brakes its got to be a 40/40. Well I walked the valve down the aisle to an '89 Honda Accord LX coupe to compare the two. I thought well they look exactly the same. Close examination revealed something I wasnt expecting. To my amazement the valve in my hand from the teg was a 35/40. The valve in the coupe (with drums mind you) was a 40/40. If there is a good explanation out there I am dying to hear it. This little discovery just took everything I thought to be true and threw it out the window...

    The valve on the right is the teg 35/40 (disc all around) and the one on the left is a 3geez 40/40 (disc/drum combo)



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    I am going to take the teg valve to work and cut it open to find out once and for all whats inside. Im figuring its completely static or it has a spring type mechanism. We will see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by peteandjenn View Post
    No doubt.

    Well I went back to the yard to do some homework and made some interesting discoveries. You may already know this but it seems to be a toss up as to what cars use the 40/40 prop valve. I looked at an '88 teg and saw that its valve looks just like ours so I pulled it out figuring with disc brakes its got to be a 40/40. Well I walked the valve down the aisle to an '89 Honda Accord LX coupe to compare the two. I thought well they look exactly the same. Close examination revealed something I wasnt expecting. To my amazement the valve in my hand from the teg was a 35/40. The valve in the coupe (with drums mind you) was a 40/40. If there is a good explanation out there I am dying to hear it. This little discovery just took everything I thought to be true and threw it out the window...

    The valve on the right is the teg 35/40 (disc all around) and the one on the left is a 3geez 40/40 (disc/drum combo)



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    I am going to take the teg valve to work and cut it open to find out once and for all whats inside. Im figuring its completely static or it has a spring type mechanism. We will see...
    you might want to try the 35/40 i'm assuming the 35 is for the rear, the hatchbacks tend to be light in the back, so you want a little bit less brake in the back end

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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    best thing to clean internal brake hydraulics is brake fluid, wear gloves though.
    I onlly saw one sei in the yards here in three years, Lucky find for sure!

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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by roodoo2 View Post
    best thing to clean internal brake hydraulics is brake fluid, wear gloves though.
    I onlly saw one sei in the yards here in three years, Lucky find for sure!
    Yea, I know. Its the first one I have seen in three years too. And I go to the yard all of the time looking for one. I hit the pull-a-parts on the North, South and East sides. I have even driven to the one in Augusta. Im pretty happy for sure. I will post some pics shortly...

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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    Here is my lucky little find. I grabbed as much as I thought I needed. Did I forget anything? Will I have an issue with the e-brake cables?(fyi) The brakes came out of a sedan and Im putting them in my hatch (duh). Lost suggested I use the 35/40 prop valve over the 40/40 due to less weight in the rear of the hatch than a sedan. I have heard of other dudes brakes locking up maybe due to increased fluid flow to the rear. I just dont want my ass end coming around on hard braking. I almost forgot, I picked up the front sway bar too; it looked a bit bigger than the stock Lx-i



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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    petes doing work. u went back to the jy? should've called me again lol. i didnt work sat.

    and we need to put the ksports and brakes on at the same time my friend. in like.. a few weeks.

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    Re: Peteandjenn's 88 Hatch Build Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by peteandjenn View Post
    Yea, I know. Its the first one I have seen in three years too. And I go to the yard all of the time looking for one. I hit the pull-a-parts on the North, South and East sides. I have even driven to the one in Augusta. Im pretty happy for sure. I will post some pics shortly...
    you came to Augusta, you should have looked me up.. and btw the one I found is still where I left it unless its crushed now, I wasnt able to get the brakes yet.
    I was at the pull a part here just friday, they just got a hatch in but its sunburned badly. I got a headlight cover off it though and sheet metal, bumpers etc were decent.

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