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    Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    Not only are they really made to order but I found a dealer as well. I found the dealer on H-t and decided to give it a shot. Here is my conversation with them:

    pitcrewmotorsports.com

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    How much for steel mounts for the 86 - 89 honda accords B series swap? preferably with the 85a poly bushings.

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    I don't see an application for 86-89 Accord w/ B series.

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    Here is a link to the product on innovatives website. Thank you for your time an effort.
    http://www.innovativemounts.com/Prod...ductCode=18950

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    $265+$10s/h.

    Not in stock. Special order. 2-3 weeks.


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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    these are all things we know.
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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by stat1K View Post
    these are all things we know.
    Mostly i was just givng another found dealer and a price instead of the almost 400$ off the innovative website. I wasnt expecting a big woopy over it just passing information.
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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    well thanks for the information, that certainly is a good price... just wondered what the confirmed part was all about.

    good to have options, even if no one here will exercise said options.
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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by stat1K View Post
    well thanks for the information, that certainly is a good price... just wondered what the confirmed part was all about.

    good to have options, even if no one here will exercise said options.
    the last few posts about the mounts showed a few members questioning the actual availability of said mounts.
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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    i still dont think they are lol no one has procured a set lol

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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    I'm not sure that price quote confirms any availability either since innovative already have their own price set and still not delivered any.


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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    has anyone even tried buying any yet?

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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    I know I haven't. You should do it though!


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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatdane View Post
    I'm not sure that price quote confirms any availability either since innovative already have their own price set and still not delivered any.
    This is a quote for the innovative mounts.
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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by ghettogeddy View Post
    i still dont think they are lol no one has procured a set lol
    That is the same as saying air doesnt exist because you cant see it.....j/k
    Yeah i wont buy a set Ive already made one set for myself and I dont like the way the rear mount is made / located. It runs into the brake lines and firewall.
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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    too true about the air thing, it's more like people who don't believe the earth is round because they haven't seen it for themselves lol....


    i know that when my friend who owns a shop called to request the quote they did in fact tell him they were made to order at this point... but said that it would only take a week or two longer than a normal order.
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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    umm thats a stupid statement to make

    i just said i wont believe they are available to someone orders a set. didn't say i think they exist or not i know they do cause tommy was sent a set

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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    ok guys, let's not let this fall to the same fate as the other threads. I'll keep it open for now.

    Here's the deal though. I just spoke with Tim at Innovative (literally just hung up the phone), and this time (unlike all other times I spoke with him directly) the mounts ARE finalized and ready to order. The turnaround time from placing the order to them actually shipping out should be about 2 weeks.

    So, to the first person to ante up and order a set (yeah I know a bunch of you have been burnt, but that has nothing to do with ordering a set from Innovative), please please please take 9 million pics and write up a full and thorough review of this product. I'm dying to see someone actually have an Innovative mount swapped B into a 3G.
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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    yesssssssss i want a b16a in my 3gee

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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by LX-i View Post
    yesssssssss i want a b16a in my 3gee
    LOL what you really want is a turbo b16 in your 3g
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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Importordomestic View Post
    LOL what you really want is a turbo b16 in your 3g
    yeah our stock motors make more tq than a b16....the b16 just revs alot higher

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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    i'm so sick of people just spewing information, that's fine if the a20 makes more torque, add 2 bolt ons and the b16 now makes more torque.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stat1K View Post
    i'm so sick of people just spewing information, that's fine if the a20 makes more torque, add 2 bolt ons and the b16 now makes more torque.
    Agreed. ...but the B16 is such an easy slap together, while the A takes effort to make power with. If quick, inexpensive, easy, and reliable~ish power with piles of aftermarket support is what your goal is, then I completely agree the B16/B18 is the way to go. For me (at least for now) I'm too stubborn to go that route and plan on finding every little last pony and putting it to work on my A.
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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    i just think a 1.6 with 160 hp is fun.
    i would love to have one in my car, boosted or NA. even supercharged lol i dont really care, either way it will be quick and fun..

    btw what tranny would i have to use with a b16a?

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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    B18, B16, or B20 (don't quote me on the B20 though)...

    I'd suggest a B16 cable tranny (not hydro) with a DC2 LSD stuffed in it. You'll pay dearly for both the tranny and the diff, but I'm sure you'll love it. Shit I'd love that setup in my car.
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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    b20 transmission in a 5spd is pretty rare, i think it's just an LS transmission anyway... most of the crv's were auto in the states... not sure elsewhere, i know the orthia had 5spd options as well as AWD so who knows, but the jdm itr tranny or the gsr tranny are good mates for any of the b-series motors...

    i'm just thinking b20 (cheapest b) would be the best to go with since it's got torque and the ability to make a lot of power with a b16 head on it. even just stock with some cams and some bolt ons they are pretty fun little motors... personally with the a-series you're gonna spend enough money trying to make it fast that you could just go b-series now, especially with the availability of the mounts and such... i guess that's one good thing to take away from what everyone's been through (not like it's much of a consolation).

    but i say all this and yet i've spent more money replacing and upgrading d-series parts to have a freakin h-swap at this point... so i guess i can't talk... i'm sick of cars at this point (and rain!)





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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by stat1K View Post
    i'm sick of cars at this point (and rain!)





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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    lol yeah i would go with a b20a(with b16 head) or b18 over the b16... i just like bigger displacements but that's just me and i has a slow ass 2.2 with a sliping clutch

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    Re: Confirmed -Innovative B series mounts.

    Quote Originally Posted by markmdz89hatch View Post
    Agreed. ...but the B16 is such an easy slap together, while the A takes effort to make power with. If quick, inexpensive, easy, and reliable~ish power with piles of aftermarket support is what your goal is, then I completely agree the B16/B18 is the way to go. For me (at least for now) I'm too stubborn to go that route and plan on finding every little last pony and putting it to work on my A.
    I love the A20a3 dont get me wrong. But there are limitations to the A series platform. If it was perfect it would be in every car honda ever made. I could pull all the power I would ever need out of a turbo A20 for my track purposes, and currently run a NA A20 in my track car, and my DD. But at some point every car has its limitations, for the a series drivetrain its the transmission gearing options, not much available. Which is the whole reason I am changeing platforms. Some parts of the car can be changed and some can not. To be competitive with the 3g I have to do whatever it takes. plus passing a 60k porsche in a corner with a 12k 23 year old honda is complete Bliss. Its like having sex for the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LX-i View Post
    i just think a 1.6 with 160 hp is fun.
    i would love to have one in my car, boosted or NA. even supercharged lol i dont really care, either way it will be quick and fun..

    btw what tranny would i have to use with a b16a?
    you can run any of the Bseries cable clutch transmissions
    (IE any 90-93 acura integra 5speed)

    Alternatively you can run any hydro transmission as well, but you will need to either convert your clutch to a hydrolic setup or get a cable to hydrolic conversion for the transmission.

    Quote Originally Posted by stat1K View Post
    b20 transmission in a 5spd is pretty rare, i think it's just an LS transmission anyway... most of the crv's were auto in the states... not sure elsewhere, i know the orthia had 5spd options as well as AWD so who knows, but the jdm itr tranny or the gsr tranny are good mates for any of the b-series motors...

    i'm just thinking b20 (cheapest b) would be the best to go with since it's got torque and the ability to make a lot of power with a b16 head on it. even just stock with some cams and some bolt ons they are pretty fun little motors... personally with the a-series you're gonna spend enough money trying to make it fast that you could just go b-series now, especially with the availability of the mounts and such... i guess that's one good thing to take away from what everyone's been through (not like it's much of a consolation).

    but i say all this and yet i've spent more money replacing and upgrading d-series parts to have a freakin h-swap at this point... so i guess i can't talk... i'm sick of cars at this point (and rain!)





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    And no I am not using the innovative mounts. I actually went to the website and looked at the innovative mount pictures and decided to build mine using theirs as a model. Except I used 1/8th steel plate and 85a poly bushings. this has been a 4 year project and it is still on going. I just recently found myself in a position to start back on it full force.

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