Intake manifolds

[Rendon LX-i]

IM just woundering what other manifold are out there. I know blox or stock or a victor.

I really want to keep my Dc bar on and a stock or a blox is really high thus having to remove the strut bar. I really want a vic but what other manifolds are almost the same design that are low runners as the victor. And maybe a cut on price.... A victor is 370 shipped.

Those who have a Victor is it worth it? does it perform as said and with boost. What are the flaws or deflaws...

I know it clears the bar..and you have to get a torque shock and make a bracket which is nothing i cant do.

what do you guys recomend me to go with......


Josh Rendon

[ghettogeddy]

Skunk2

[Sh4d0w]

http://www.racingworks.com/skunk2_intake_manifold.htm Theres a link to the Skunk2's - which one would we buy for the A20A3, as its not listed?

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looks like the B18A, if I'm not mistaken from my searching...

https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38437

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If that is the one, then would we need this as well? Found on the skunk2 site:

"First Gen B16a / B18a Engines will require the Use of a Late Model or Aftermarket Fuel Rail and Fuel Regulator. "

Would we need that for the A20A3 as well?

[89T]

Skunk2

X2, but i think you will lose the strut bar.

http://www.racingworks.com/skunk2_intake_manifold.htm Theres a link to the Skunk2's - which one would we buy for the A20A3, as its not listed?

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looks like the B18A, if I'm not mistaken from my searching...

https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=38437

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If that is the one, then would we need this as well? Found on the skunk2 site:

"First Gen B16a / B18a Engines will require the Use of a Late Model or Aftermarket Fuel Rail and Fuel Regulator. "

Would we need that for the A20A3 as well?

you should upgrade the rail and regulator while you are there, if you choose not to, you'll need a stock b18 rail and FPR and throttle body. The bolt pattern of the throttle body on the a20 is different than the b series.

seeing that you'll have to purchase all those extra's anyway you might as well buy them once and be done with it.

[AccordEpicenter]

aebs typhoon>*

[Rendon LX-i]

K thanks....Well iknow i would have to buy .tb,rail.injectors and such. Because the stock shit wont cut it.....or even switch over...if i want 300 out of my build not going to work with the 450 LOL. MIGHT but im going RC

[dacantu]

great thread. ill stay posted becase i need this info also

[89T]

hmm, this is the only one i found.
http://www.aebsracing.com/products/intake-manifolds

link to typhoon......pls.

[MessyHonda]

i think my bar would clear if i had like a half inch spacer on both sides. i run the b16 mani on both my cars.

[Sh4d0w]

So, as I am easily confused, let me try to make this as clear as possible, and feel free to correct me.

A new Intake Manifold will give me A: More low-end torque, less top end | B: Less low-end, put more pull up top | C: Both (that would pwn)

For this, I will need the manifold, fuel rail, injectors, and what is this FPR that 89T mentioned? Fuel pressure regulator? That's the only thing I can think of offhand.

Is there anything else? And since the manifold is for the B16, is this where I should look for aftermarket FPR, rail, & injectors? Any suggestions (based on experience, preferably)?

K thanks....Well iknow i would have to buy .tb,rail.injectors and such. Because the stock shit wont cut it.....or even switch over...if i want 300 out of my build not going to work with the 450 LOL. MIGHT but im going RC

What do you mean by "if i want 300 out of my build not going to work with the 450 LOL. MIGHT but im going RC"

What is RC? Not sure what the rest ment either... pardon my ignorence...

[Nio]

So, as I am easily confused, let me try to make this as clear as possible, and feel free to correct me.

A new Intake Manifold will give me A: More low-end torque, less top end | B: Less low-end, put more pull up top | C: Both (that would pwn)

For this, I will need the manifold, fuel rail, injectors, and what is this FPR that 89T mentioned? Fuel pressure regulator? That's the only thing I can think of offhand.

Is there anything else? And since the manifold is for the B16, is this where I should look for aftermarket FPR, rail, & injectors? Any suggestions (based on experience, preferably)?

Same goes for me.

[MessyHonda]

i do no recomend a intake manifold on a stock engine....i have stage 2 cam and headers with a b16 manifold...so far i have good torque but its loud because i have a 68mm tb and a filter on the end...you will need obd1 swap because the stock computer does not like the no EGR....i have the check engine light because of it

[Rendon LX-i]

So, as I am easily confused, let me try to make this as clear as possible, and feel free to correct me.

A new Intake Manifold will give me A: More low-end torque, less top end | B: Less low-end, put more pull up top | C: Both (that would pwn)

For this, I will need the manifold, fuel rail, injectors, and what is this FPR that 89T mentioned? Fuel pressure regulator? That's the only thing I can think of offhand.

Is there anything else? And since the manifold is for the B16, is this where I should look for aftermarket FPR, rail, & injectors? Any suggestions (based on experience, preferably)?



What do you mean by "if i want 300 out of my build not going to work with the 450 LOL. MIGHT but im going RC"

What is RC? Not sure what the rest ment either... pardon my ignorence...

RC injector....or ID or bosch......Injector Dynamics. THIS IS FOR MY NEW BUILD lol...not for my stock motor now....OR i might go with ID1000. These are recommended by my tuner.

i do no recomend a intake manifold on a stock engine....i have stage 2 cam and headers with a b16 manifold...so far i have good torque but its loud because i have a 68mm tb and a filter on the end...you will need obd1 swap because the stock computer does not like the no EGR....i have the check engine light because of it

BRO this is for my new build..not the stock motor in now..or semi stock. im buying new parts next months. Thats why im saying....umm if i need to make a plate then it shouldnt be a problem....

Thats why im going obd1 next month. I might just slap on the stock b17 manifold on for now...so i have some what a better flow. Should change my power band completey

[89T]

So, as I am easily confused, let me try to make this as clear as possible, and feel free to correct me.

A new Intake Manifold will give me A: More low-end torque, less top end | B: Less low-end, put more pull up top | C: Both (that would pwn)

For this, I will need the manifold, fuel rail, injectors, and what is this FPR that 89T mentioned? Fuel pressure regulator? That's the only thing I can think of offhand.

Is there anything else? And since the manifold is for the B16, is this where I should look for aftermarket FPR, rail, & injectors? Any suggestions (based on experience, preferably)?



What do you mean by "if i want 300 out of my build not going to work with the 450 LOL. MIGHT but im going RC"

What is RC? Not sure what the rest ment either... pardon my ignorence...

B if n/a C if turbo'ed
fuel pressure regulator
map sensor (ask messy how he has his set up)
iat sensor (again ask messy how he has his)
450cc dsm injectors (remember that Mr.Rendon's car is turbo'ed)
"Rc" injectors name brand.

so, if you buy a b16 manifold you need b16 parts for it.

[Rendon LX-i]

Well im just going to get the victor there 375 shipped. Since there not made anymore might as while take it well its there....then get me a 74mm tb. and a stock rail. it wouldnt really matter. As long as i have the right injectors them im good

89T thanks helping me out. and letting shadow understand. MY avater saids BOOSTED lol.....but its all good.

Im pumped. I just want power...and just want to be one of the few on the forum pushing 300+. If anything ill go with the aebs. Looks like a nice unit.

[89T]

ohh my god , 74mm TB!

You may have some idling issues with that big of a TB, not to mention slow throttle response. For the hp goal you stated, even if i add 200hp more it would be a over kill.
For instance my tuner is running a 2.0L gsr with a T4 turbo(not sure which one) at 30psi on e85 on 1600cc injectors and a 70mm TB making 650+ hp.

I'd probably recommend between a 68mm or a 70mm Tb for sure.
It's up to you. It's your car and i am in for the out come either way..

After a quick search yesterday there is no skunk2 vs aebs comparison but there was a victor vs aebs and the aebs seemed to make 5-10 more hp.
the aebs vs gsr which the skunk is supposedly a clone of . the abes makes about 5 hp more.
The problem i have with that comparison is that i don't think skunk would just clone a manifold with out making some improvements.

AccordEpicenter may be able to add more due to him running the aebs and him doing more research between the manifolds.

[Sh4d0w]

B if n/a C if turbo'ed
fuel pressure regulator
map sensor (ask messy how he has his set up)
iat sensor (again ask messy how he has his)
450cc dsm injectors (remember that Mr.Rendon's car is turbo'ed)
"Rc" injectors name brand.

so, if you buy a b16 manifold you need b16 parts for it.

ok, roger that. So this may be a bit off topic, but... What can I do to stay NA and increase low end torque on the a20a3?

ohh my god , 74mm TB!


For instance my tuner is running a 2.0L gsr with a T4 turbo(not sure which one) at 30psi on e85 on 1600cc injectors and a 70mm TB making 650+ hp.

What car is this?

[89T]

this one.


hmm I just realized he is running a victor.
sorry for whoring up the thread.

[Sh4d0w]

[Rendon LX-i]

ohh my god , 74mm TB!

You may have some idling issues with that big of a TB, not to mention slow throttle response. For the hp goal you stated, even if i add 200hp more it would be a over kill.
For instance my tuner is running a 2.0L gsr with a T4 turbo(not sure which one) at 30psi on e85 on 1600cc injectors and a 70mm TB making 650+ hp.

I'd probably recommend between a 68mm or a 70mm Tb for sure.
It's up to you. It's your car and i am in for the out come either way..

After a quick search yesterday there is no skunk2 vs aebs comparison but there was a victor vs aebs and the aebs seemed to make 5-10 more hp.
the aebs vs gsr which the skunk is supposedly a clone of . the abes makes about 5 hp more.
The problem i have with that comparison is that i don't think skunk would just clone a manifold with out making some improvements.

AccordEpicenter may be able to add more due to him running the aebs and him doing more research between the manifolds.

well good thing you threw that out. since i am getting a HX40 there for needing more air volume.

this one.


hmm I just realized he is running a victor.
sorry for whoring up the thread.

My tuner persuaded me to going with 450+. Afterall it is going to be a built block just on stock sleeves.

Does anyone know the tb opening size of the victor x. I'll just get whatever fits best without having to port. Reason I said 74mm was because my tuner sells them and I'm getting one for a maaad discount. He also sells a 70mm tb and he can bore out any oem tb so its no big deal.

Also, throttle reponse is usually better with a bigger tb. It will sort of bog afterwards tho hahah....SO all in all i think this well all come to play guys.

Its going to happen...Alot of money but its going to happen.

[89T]

Super nice turbo, what are you guy's expecting for hp?

[Rendon LX-i]

Will we dont know yet till the motor is up and running but easly 400 no doubt. I just need to have someone make me a clutch to hold up. After seening guyabuya or how you spell his name he was slipping right a 287tq 300+hp....so i need to find me a clutch.....


hes doing all my head work. block work exc. he was looking at my block said O cast iron LOL....hes like where going to see some big numbers here if your willing to spend the money...so its time.

[89T]

in for details if you are upto it.

[Rendon LX-i]

were going to try to get into that range. but 300 is a starting goal. Im just seening what manifolds can withstand such air flow exc.

What your pushing bro?

i mean your buildt,tuned. and your at what range?

Rule of thumb i say is bigger plenum and shorter runners such as a victor x well gain good power. With boost is better for the fact beening the Flow of volume the victor provides.

I need to ask my tuner some more questions.

Ill give the details forsure....AN yes im up to it. I might take me a few years but might as well. I need to redo my engine bay anyways. Thats why im buyin a Daily Driver so i wont rush the process. Because if you rush it then you buy crappy parts seals...trying to go around the bush then when you pushing it hard your like O man idk if this is going to hold or that part is going to take the abuse of such power haha.

[AccordEpicenter]

i have an itr tb, anything 70mm or bigger is just mega huge and simply not a bottleneck when it comes to a boosted setup, i would stick to somthing that size or less for driveability reasons etc.

http://www.eraceparts.com/category1a9b.html

here a link for aebs typhoon intake mani's for sale. Worlds cheaper than a victor X with very similar performance with better driveability (maintain good tq out of boost) , plus fitment is better (no dogbone mount mods needed). You can thank me later


As for clutch, Clutchnet dual diaphram clutches will hold, esp with a 4 or 6 puck disk. Well worth the money, custom made.