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    webers or fuel injection?

    I have an 89 accord lxi. Would it be better to leave it fuel injection or change it to dual webers or dellortos for real performance?



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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    Leave it.

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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    Quote Originally Posted by stephensimmons View Post
    I have an 89 accord lxi. Would it be better to leave it fuel injection or change it to dual webers or dellortos for real performance?
    webbers!! sorry i'm a carb guy

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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    Wouldn't be that much work to convert it to carbs, but. You'd be best off, if you like the idea of sidedrafts, to get yourself a Rowland DCOE manifold, and bolt some throttle bodies to it. Probably will want some ability to tune it after that, which is where it can get tricky. But you should see some good results from that.

    If you stick with the fuel injection, you just have to do some minimal wiring to make it tunable (OBD-I harnesses are available for purchase from LX-Incredible). Or if you go with carbs, you'll be doing quite a bit of wiring removal, and will have to swap out the fuel pump, relays and all that shit. Doesn't really seem worth the effort if the car is already fuel injected.

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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    if you wanted to trade efi for carb i would trade you! haha i want efi my 87 was efi an it would run circles around my 88 lx

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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    Quote Originally Posted by geej07 View Post
    if you wanted to trade efi for carb i would trade you! haha i want efi my 87 was efi an it would run circles around my 88 lx
    these cars with aftermarket carbs are a lot different then the pathetic factory carb, I mean i'm trying to put my car back together right now, as soon as I finish the dual carb setup I know it will be better then the restrictive factory carb. I'm going old school, big carbs,cam,headers etc. gives a car more soul in my opinion. There are people on here that have done dual sidedraft webbers and sidedraft bike carbs, and loved the result. If you just want to get in it and drive it every day with almost never opening the hood, go fuel injection, if you like tinkering with your car and like working under the hood, plus that sound that only a carbed car with a cam can produce, go carbs.
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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    Whats the price of the Rawland intake?

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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    Quote Originally Posted by stephensimmons View Post
    Whats the price of the Rawland intake?
    That price will vary greatly depending on who you ask.

    I don't want to take a sale away from anyone publicly, and I do want you to get the best price and service possible. As such, shoot me a PM and I'll give you some tips on it.

    To be honest, if you're considering the idea of DCOE's I'd absolutely love to see another guy do this setup. There are VERY few of them out there, and it's nice to see someone else join this little DCOE powered 3G club. Something else you might consider is going ITB. It's like the fuel injected version of a quad carb setup on a 4 banger.

    ...and yeah, as others have said, if you stayed with fuel injection, I'd do the OBD-1 conversion to really be able to extract some serious power out of this motor (relatively speaking).
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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    is itb the 4 carb set up? can we get a 4 carb set up? if i could get one of those i would leave my car carb. i just gotta do something i feel like im driven a gokart!

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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    Quote Originally Posted by geej07 View Post
    is itb the 4 carb set up? can we get a 4 carb set up? if i could get one of those i would leave my car carb. i just gotta do something i feel like im driven a gokart!
    it's been done not sure where the pictures are

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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    these cars with aftermarket carbs are a lot different then the pathetic factory carb, I mean i'm trying to put my car back together right now, as soon as I finish the dual carb setup I know it will be better then the restrictive factory carb. I'm going old school, big carbs,cam,headers etc. gives a car more soul in my opinion. There are people on here that have done dual sidedraft webbers and sidedraft bike carbs, and loved the result. If you just want to get in it and drive it every day with almost never opening the hood, go fuel injection, if you like tinkering with your car and like working under the hood, plus that sound that only a carbed car with a cam can produce, go carbs.

    I agree with the above to an extent. I don't like having to mess with carbs on small engines, so I wanna convert to fuel injected. However, if I wanted to do a big V8 muscle car build, I would do the dual carbs on it.

    I think the Accord is best off as fuel injected.

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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    Yes it can be done. just isnt cheap......but then what is?!

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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    twin dcoe or dhla carbs would def be a cool thing.
    set up right by someone who knows the stuff, they are nearly as good as a oem efi set up.
    they do still require occasional tweaking but very little, just balancing really.
    they do also have the look fucking cool factor which efi will never have.
    but,as said before, prob the best way would be itbs.
    a set of black top 20 valve 4age one would be great as they are bout 46mm throats and there are plenty about. modify a dcoe or dhla manifold to suit them, a decent aftermarket ecu and you are set.
    yuo would get away with the factory efi fuel pump and even the toyota injectors for bit until you stuck big cam in it.

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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    There are upgrades and mods for EFI to get a lot more out of them. I want EFI just for that reason, plus there is a possibility for turbo with EFI.

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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    Quote Originally Posted by lostforawhile View Post
    these cars with aftermarket carbs are a lot different then the pathetic factory carb, I mean i'm trying to put my car back together right now, as soon as I finish the dual carb setup I know it will be better then the restrictive factory carb. I'm going old school, big carbs,cam,headers etc. gives a car more soul in my opinion. There are people on here that have done dual sidedraft webbers and sidedraft bike carbs, and loved the result. If you just want to get in it and drive it every day with almost never opening the hood, go fuel injection, if you like tinkering with your car and like working under the hood, plus that sound that only a carbed car with a cam can produce, go carbs.
    agreed. Weber with a 272 cam sounds sick. I love being able to hear the carb suck in air.
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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    I love hearing the intake louder than the exhaust!

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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    Shit the short ram on my LX-i Coupe sounds great. The car is bone stock and it really howls up in the top end, much more than my single Weber ever did.

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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    Stick with the FI. do a cam/cam gear/i/h/e and catback/ OBD1/ intake mani and youll be set bro honestly not worth it. I hate carb NO OFFENSE lol.....thats why i didnt get a car on craiglist for the fact half the 3geez hURR are Carbed and half them said has carb problems wont start. BUT its complety up to you and what you want to do with your car.


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    Talking Re: webers or fuel injection?

    Normally, you don't take a EFI accord down to a carbed model. It's not worth it & there is to much involved.. The majority take the carbed ones to a EFI version.... As mentioned, you have much more potential bringing it up to OBD-1 level & will have much more possibilities in the overall picture...

    I've seen but a few DCOE carbed accords with velocity tubes/stacks & know that is was pretty penny. It depends on how deep your pockets are for that project, along with the determination...
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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    well i figure a strong bottom end with a port, pollished, and o'ringed head felpro head gasket, pacesetter exhaust from the header to the tail pipe and a msd two step retarder the first stage for my 35hp shot of nos and the second step for my 135hp shot hooked to my progressive controller and of coarse a good clutch! Not sure of what cam to use yet though if i go this way an im pretty sure i am.

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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    Obd-1 conversion, intake, cam, exhaust...

    but if you like carbs like some of us here, they are a lot of fun and do offer good performance.
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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    Anyone by any chance know where i can get a adjustable cam gear?

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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    Quote Originally Posted by stephensimmons View Post
    Anyone by any chance know where i can get a adjustable cam gear?
    The bisimoto group buy. That's currently the only way to get one unless you go custom made.

    https://www.3geez.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70824
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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    I myself would run carbs but that just me. As a fwe other have side there nothing like the sound of dual or even a single carb.

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    Re: webers or fuel injection?

    itb's

    aftermarket ecu/ignition.

    total cost will probably be around 1500 depending where you get your parts

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