Project that i have been working on!

[RobT5580]

I have been working on this for a few months now and its not finished yet but i finally got my car on the lift to test fit the product. This is a ExplicitSpeedPerformance traction bar that was made possible by the preludepower guys and John@Explicit. Now my kit is not finished so don't bombard explicit as our kit is not marketed as of yet.

Don't mind the rust but here is my mock up:






And what it will look like when finished:

And the preludepower thread http://www.preludepower.com/forums/s...d.php?t=326868

And of course there is a catch this traction back utilizes a front torque mount which is NOT considered a front mount. This was designed for cars that have a transmission mount which we do not. So if you intend to buy this kit keep in mind its not going to be all that you need.

With that said i purchase the Innovative mount kit and plan to use the transmission bracket for my chassis and i will have a weld on mount made to be fitted to my B20A bell housing. This was the best option for myself and i wanted to share this with you guys as some people might be interested but is not a complete bolt on package obviously.

[nswst8]

Awesome! I like your projects. Keep this updated.

I also remember why I didn't like staying in CT. Road cancer.

[RobT5580]

Yeah my next chassis will never see snow or rain if i can help it. My yard has a lot to do with it as well because its gravel and it holds a lot of moisture.

[88LXi68]

rob, that looks pretty good. the only problem I see with this design is that it may hang a little too low. great job though!

[Civic Accord Honda]

awesome! and are those Yokohoma snow tires?

[mykwikcoupe]

rob, that looks pretty good. the only problem I see with this design is that it may hang a little too low. great job though!

so is this a better design then what I just bought from you? Nice rob Im going to look into this for my hatch project Im loving the look of it.

[RobT5580]

Its within a inch of where the factory tow hooks are so i don't think that will be a issue. The biggest issue is the engine mount but that has many solutions wether its making a better front mount and not using what they currently offer.

I will keep you guys posted i did put this up a little premature but i am bored and have been working on a lot of stuff.

[carotman]

Nice piece of equipment. This should improve traction. I always had wheel hop problems with sticky tires at the dragstrip.



P.S.
Your B20A Oil pan makes me sad.

Sandblast this bitch!

[RobT5580]

Don't worry that is a spare B20A that i picked for for a little over $300 a while back. I have a lot of work to do but i think this year will be a good year of progress if all falls into place.

[88LXi68]

so is this a better design then what I just bought from you? Nice rob Im going to look into this for my hatch project Im loving the look of it.

I am not sure if this is a better design, but this bar does look nicer. Although, the other bar was track tested and proven.

[markmdz89hatch]

see now you had to go and do something crazy like this huh Rob? Good to see she's starting to get some love again.

Any idea of what the price is going to look like?

[RobT5580]

They run around $400 i believe i did take mine unfinished and was a test dummy so i got it a little cheaper. The company is great to deal with and the fabrication is top notch.

[2drSE-i]

So is this the 88-91 Lude kit?

Is the torque mount too long?

Anywho, ESP makes AWESOME traction bars. Super strong, you can still jack the car up on them.

[RobT5580]

Yeah is basically the same main bar but were working on a few adjustments. The B20A5 leans back father and as expected the torque rod is to long but i knew it would be. So i am working on getting a new one and i will powdercoat the stuff i have now that i know it works.

Hopefully i get a chassis in the next few months so i can install this kit.

[guaynabo89]

I remember when those calipers were all shiny n new.


Looking good Rob. I also need to work on a traction bar setup. So many projects not enough dough.

[RobT5580]

Soon enough i will have a new project car to make all shiny new again. My brother and I are getting swamped with work so i will keep on ordering parts and hope to find time to do something with them all LOL.

The traction bar is pretty much a done deal John@Explicit has radius rods and a new torque mount in the sizes i need on the shelf. So i will ship mine back this week and the kit is complete once i coat mine and get the new rods in.

[2drSE-i]

So basically these will be available to order through ESP real soon? Its just the 88-91 kit with different radius rods and a different torque mount?

This is awesome Rob. Never cease to be an innovator.


My guess is that we would have to worry about the front mount for us A-series guys.

[RobT5580]

Pretty much and yeah i think something will need to be done for the front mount which is needed for the B20A as well. I personally want to use a transmission mount on my setup but im sure something can be made to be used on the traction bar.

[2drSE-i]

I think it would be beneficial to add a trans mount anyway. I just wonder if the torque mount they give you for the B20A will be the same length we need for the A motors.

[guaynabo89]

doubt it. It looks way too long. Remeber the A has a serious drunken lean forward.

Actually with just the bar and the radius rodrs the front mount wouldnt be that hard. Just have to find some good mount.

[2drSE-i]

The one in the picture is for the 88-91 B20/B21. It was way too long for Rob to use too. They are sending him another one

[RobT5580]

It should fit as the B20A sits on the A20A3 front mount. And yeah i agree with adding a tranny mount i was never a fan of one side mount and a front and rear. I would prefer two side mounts and one of the other.

[mykwikcoupe]

whats the real purpose of the lower trans brace if you have a stiff, solid front and rear brace as well as the one by the belts (drivers side mount)? Could you get away with not using the lower mount but keeping the dogbone?

[RobT5580]

That lower mount seems useless to me as our mounts seem poor anyway. I replaced all my mounts when i did my turbo and it moves quite a bit which has pushed me for alternatives. I still drive my accord with a stock b20a and its annoying to feel the engine rock as much as it does so hopefully in the end it will be a solid platform with little vibration.

[bullard123]

Looking good. Glad to see you are working on her again