Best Engine Management...

**mushroom_toy** · 06-03-2010, 04:49 PM

Alright guys got to thinking I might go ahead and do my obd1 swap after I get the engine running good. So im gonna be using a P75 manual ecu...I was looking at the Hondata S300, and think thats what im going to go with for the price/features. Ill be able to completely do away with my piggyback SAFC with the S300 installed in the P75 correct? What do yall think about the S300?

***Vanilla Sky*** · 06-03-2010, 05:15 PM

At that price, I'd be megasquirting.

***carotman*** · 06-03-2010, 05:22 PM

You can try an Ostrich with HULOG for a cheaper and portable tuning solution

or Demon with neptune for 100 bucks less than the S300

You'll still need to buy a Wideband ECU

**mushroom_toy** · 06-03-2010, 07:32 PM

Wideband ecu?

**MessyHonda** · 06-03-2010, 09:34 PM

obd1 beacuse you could just buy everything and just hook up some wires for a tunable system

**mushroom_toy** · 06-03-2010, 10:00 PM

I am going obd1...

**Strugglebucket** · 06-03-2010, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by mushroom_toy

Wideband ecu?

I think he meant o2 sensor.

If I were tuning myself I'd a demon and an LC-1. Last I checked, moates said they had it working with ectune and crome too.

**mushroom_toy** · 06-03-2010, 10:34 PM

Yeah I was wondering about the wideband comment lol.

Im already running a wideband setup and piggybacking with SAFC. For the wideband running a PLX M-300 which I love.

**88LXi68** · 06-04-2010, 04:48 AM

I am running an S200 and I plan on going with the S300 when I get my cams. The S200 is a great system but doesn't offer the on the fly changes the S300 does. Have you looked into crome or neptune?

You can find the S200 on Honda-Tech for great prices too

***carotman*** · 06-04-2010, 05:21 AM

Yeah, I meant Wideband O2

The Demon is nice but you can't port the roms in another car unless it also has a demon. If that's not a problem to you, this thing seems to be working quite well.

**AccordEpicenter** · 06-04-2010, 10:22 AM

go obd1, eliminate the safc, get a wideband o2. I think hondata is nice but for the money you can do better. Plus hondata sucks as a company for suing dave blundell. Fuck Hondata

**mushroom_toy** · 06-04-2010, 10:38 AM

Well I already have a wideband, and have already used it to tune my car leaner that stock with the Safc. I need a full system that is easy for me to use, since Im gonna be the one tuning it for my itb setup. I basically need the best plug an play setup that I can tune on the fly with my laptop. I already have my p75 ecu, just gotta make my conversion harness and get the plate for the dizzy and get the dizzy and mod it. I figured sticking the S300 on the p75 would be the simplest/easier to use system with the most features.

**labeledsk8r** · 06-04-2010, 11:42 AM

i have heard good things about hondata s300 and crome.

you shouldnt need to "mod" the dizzy once you get the adapter plate its all bolt up from there useing the 4th gen dizzy (i belive) just need your harness's and chiped ecu

**mushroom_toy** · 06-04-2010, 01:15 PM

^didnt knoe that lol...thats good...thought I still had to cut/rotate or something lol.

**AccordEpicenter** · 06-04-2010, 06:34 PM

nope its a bolt on kit. Only thing on the dizzy you need to change is the drive key, and that takes like a min to change. Just make sure you line it up the right way, and its not upside down. The adaptor plate and key is well worth the money, nice and high quality and eliminates the fab work and guess work so you can concentrate on the wiring. I feel confident in making just about anything I need (like my whole turbo kit) but I was worried about fitment and interference issues with the dizzy and the stat housing, as well as oil leaks due to a shitty conversion. So I just went with the kit because I figured it would take me too long to build something decent, I didnt want to screw around

***2drSE-i*** · 06-04-2010, 10:18 PM

xenocron has a bundle for moates demon and ectune for 399. You also need an adapter plate from cygnus/lx-incredible (cygnus for the plate, incredible for the hardware) ~300, and a distributor. Overall, your looking at about a grand. Bottom line you at least need the plate, distributor, and s300, which is 500 on its own.

**89T** · 06-05-2010, 06:58 PM

just get the neptune rtp demon, you can add boost control and still be cheaper than the s300.

**Oldblueaccord** · 06-06-2010, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by mushroom_toy

Well I already have a wideband, and have already used it to tune my car leaner that stock with the Safc. I need a full system that is easy for me to use, since Im gonna be the one tuning it for my itb setup. I basically need the best plug an play setup that I can tune on the fly with my laptop. I already have my p75 ecu, just gotta make my conversion harness and get the plate for the dizzy and get the dizzy and mod it. I figured sticking the S300 on the p75 would be the simplest/easier to use system with the most features.

Mushroom you find your car run pretty rich stock set up? Thats what I found on mine and we have similair miles set up.

wp

**MessyHonda** · 06-06-2010, 11:53 PM

here is a post to mine

**gtmst3** · 06-07-2010, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by AccordEpicenter

nope its a bolt on kit. Only thing on the dizzy you need to change is the drive key, and that takes like a min to change. Just make sure you line it up the right way, and its not upside down. The adaptor plate and key is well worth the money, nice and high quality and eliminates the fab work and guess work so you can concentrate on the wiring. I feel confident in making just about anything I need (like my whole turbo kit) but I was worried about fitment and interference issues with the dizzy and the stat housing, as well as oil leaks due to a shitty conversion. So I just went with the kit because I figured it would take me too long to build something decent, I didnt want to screw around

where can one get one of these kits?

**Civic Accord Honda** · 06-07-2010, 03:11 AM

Originally Posted by MessyHonda

here is a post to mine

where

**mushroom_toy** · 06-07-2010, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Oldblueaccord

Mushroom you find your car run pretty rich stock set up? Thats what I found on mine and we have similair miles set up.

wp

Yeah mine ran very rich all the time, I leaned it out for cruising so i can get from 14.3-15 afr at around 2500-3000 rpm no to half throttle and a little more. Of course I left it richer for full throttle for now.

**SQ is the SQUAD** · 06-08-2010, 04:05 PM

i am running ectune with demon on my 98 gsr sedan. i love it. easy to use. less then the 300 and more features

**gtmst3** · 06-08-2010, 05:26 PM

ok since every one ignored my post i will ask again..... where do i get a kit for the 4th gen distributor? also about how much would it cost to do an obd-1 conversion

***2drSE-i*** · 06-08-2010, 05:53 PM

Cygnusx-1 has the adapter plates and keys, lx-incredible has the hardware kits.

Adapter plate - 300
hardware - 10
ECU - 100 (unless you get it at the jy)
Conversion harness - 300 (complete with dizzy extension, o2 sensor extension)
Distributor - 150
o2 sensor - 40

all in all, barring any extra expenses, time and effort, it would cost $900. I'm betting on 1000.

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